Cambridge LL.M. 2014 - 2015 Applicants


It is a law meeting.

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/gradstud/meetings/pdf/meetingdates201314v2.pdf
It is a law meeting.

http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/gradstud/meetings/pdf/meetingdates201314v2.pdf
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But in accordance with the list you've provided they're meeting again on Feb. 6th and March 6th... so what does it all mean?

Really theres nothing we all can do but wait...
But in accordance with the list you've provided they're meeting again on Feb. 6th and March 6th... so what does it all mean?

Really theres nothing we all can do but wait...
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Mark W
Is anyone else checking their Camsis every day? :)

I don't know if we will hear anything until after the February 6th meeting at the earliest but the wait is killing me now!
Is anyone else checking their Camsis every day? :)

I don't know if we will hear anything until after the February 6th meeting at the earliest but the wait is killing me now!
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Is anyone else checking their Camsis every day? :)

I don't know if we will hear anything until after the February 6th meeting at the earliest but the wait is killing me now!


You may want to quit checking CAMSIS in order to reduce your risk of a heart attack.
<blockquote>Is anyone else checking their Camsis every day? :)

I don't know if we will hear anything until after the February 6th meeting at the earliest but the wait is killing me now!</blockquote>

You may want to quit checking CAMSIS in order to reduce your risk of a heart attack.
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hal123
guys good luck to all of us as the next week will be the last sprint whereas we will be witnessing the first offers ! fingers crossed hope we get accepted :)) cheers for the weekend !!!
guys good luck to all of us as the next week will be the last sprint whereas we will be witnessing the first offers ! fingers crossed hope we get accepted :)) cheers for the weekend !!!
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Bolivia!
Hi, guys,

I'm currently doing the LLM at Cambridge. If you have any questions, do get in touch.

Please no inboxes - I'm sure everybody would like to know.
Hi, guys,

I'm currently doing the LLM at Cambridge. If you have any questions, do get in touch.

Please no inboxes - I'm sure everybody would like to know.
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Proson34
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llmguider
Hi, guys,

I'm currently doing the LLM at Cambridge. If you have any questions, do get in touch.

Please no inboxes - I'm sure everybody would like to know.


Hey, thanks for your help!
Could you tell us please how your status on Camsis had been progressing before you were accepted?
<blockquote>Hi, guys,

I'm currently doing the LLM at Cambridge. If you have any questions, do get in touch.

Please no inboxes - I'm sure everybody would like to know.</blockquote>

Hey, thanks for your help!
Could you tell us please how your status on Camsis had been progressing before you were accepted?

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Bolivia!
Can't remember too much other than receiving an email the day the status change to "offer made" or something. Susan Wade is going to email you straightaway, so there's absolutely no point in checking your CAMSIS status.

Last year they introduced the "November deadline" for the first time (was January before) because Cambridge Law School suffers from serious administrative issues and was constantly late giving out offers.

That's why last year first offers were sent out in late Jan, which was unheard of in previous years. This meant that they sent out offers before most Ivy League schools and suddenly most people that got an offer accepted it - which Cambridge did not expect to happen. So this year's class is very big (230 instead of the usual 150-180).

So I think they will be more careful with offers this year. Still, I was told that with a first-class degree from a decent uni you have very good chances of getting in. Good luck, everybody, and stop checking CAMSIS but wait for that email!
Can't remember too much other than receiving an email the day the status change to "offer made" or something. Susan Wade is going to email you straightaway, so there's absolutely no point in checking your CAMSIS status.

Last year they introduced the "November deadline" for the first time (was January before) because Cambridge Law School suffers from serious administrative issues and was constantly late giving out offers.

That's why last year first offers were sent out in late Jan, which was unheard of in previous years. This meant that they sent out offers before most Ivy League schools and suddenly most people that got an offer accepted it - which Cambridge did not expect to happen. So this year's class is very big (230 instead of the usual 150-180).

So I think they will be more careful with offers this year. Still, I was told that with a first-class degree from a decent uni you have very good chances of getting in. Good luck, everybody, and stop checking CAMSIS but wait for that email!
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Mark W

So I think they will be more careful with offers this year. Still, I was told that with a first-class degree from a decent uni you have very good chances of getting in.


You wrote:

"That's why last year first offers were sent out in late Jan, which was unheard of in previous years"

Last year the first offers were made later than every previous year except one. The first offer last year was Jan 31st (at least, the first offer reported on this site).

The year before that, the first offer was made on Jan 20th - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/108293/6

The year before that, the first offer was made on February 1st - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/92339/8

The year before that, the first offer was made on or before December 22nd - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/77578/1

So it cannot be the case that 'early offers' are what led to the course being oversubscribed in your year. The offers were no earlier than they were in previous years! There must be some other reason involved, perhaps the Ivy League Schools had changed their timetables?

Or maybe it's oversubscribed in your year because lots of people deferred from the year before? ;) No, I haven't stalked your profile *looks innocent*

If they are being more careful with offers this year, I fear I will miss out :) I have a first from a 'non-decent' uni !!

What modules are you doing and how are you enjoying it so far?
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So I think they will be more careful with offers this year. Still, I was told that with a first-class degree from a decent uni you have very good chances of getting in.</blockquote>

You wrote:

"That's why last year first offers were sent out in late Jan, which was unheard of in previous years"

Last year the first offers were made later than every previous year except one. The first offer last year was Jan 31st (at least, the first offer reported on this site).

The year before that, the first offer was made on Jan 20th - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/108293/6

The year before that, the first offer was made on February 1st - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/92339/8

The year before that, the first offer was made on or before December 22nd - http://www.llm-guide.com/board/77578/1

So it cannot be the case that 'early offers' are what led to the course being oversubscribed in your year. The offers were no earlier than they were in previous years! There must be some other reason involved, perhaps the Ivy League Schools had changed their timetables?

Or maybe it's oversubscribed in your year because lots of people deferred from the year before? ;) No, I haven't stalked your profile *looks innocent*

If they are being more careful with offers this year, I fear I will miss out :) I have a first from a 'non-decent' uni !!

What modules are you doing and how are you enjoying it so far?
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Bolivia!
Let's rephrase:

Yes, there have always been early offers. But in previous years those early offers were ONLY made to outstanding candidates.

Last year, most people got their offers in February, which was not the case in previous years (more like March-May, many in April). So yes, they definitely changed their administrative procedures, and yes, the November deadline did play a big role in this. So at least there should no longer be cases of people having to wait til June, which was the case before 2013.

And no, you cannot defer your offer unless you have a serious ground (family member dead, serious illness, etc.). I tried deferring to do a gap year, which was declined. So I declined my offer, travelled around the world, re-applied and was lucky to get in again.

So far I'm enjoying it a lot. It's an amazing place; small but incredibly vibrant for its size. Students come from over 50 countries and aren't nerds at all. I'm focusing on Public International Law (surprise, surprise).

And don't worry, there are lots of people here from "no name" universities. Having a first is what matters (plus references, etc.).

P.S.: If you put down King's as one of your college choices, I suggest emailing Susan immediately to change your choice. King's doesn't accept LLMers (I know, they should let us know that well in advance). Trinity is oversubscribed, so very hard to get in, but this year it accepted a decent amount (7). Many ended up in grad only colleges because they chose colleges like Trinity, St John's, King's.
Let's rephrase:

Yes, there have always been early offers. But in previous years those early offers were ONLY made to outstanding candidates.

Last year, most people got their offers in February, which was not the case in previous years (more like March-May, many in April). So yes, they definitely changed their administrative procedures, and yes, the November deadline did play a big role in this. So at least there should no longer be cases of people having to wait til June, which was the case before 2013.

And no, you cannot defer your offer unless you have a serious ground (family member dead, serious illness, etc.). I tried deferring to do a gap year, which was declined. So I declined my offer, travelled around the world, re-applied and was lucky to get in again.

So far I'm enjoying it a lot. It's an amazing place; small but incredibly vibrant for its size. Students come from over 50 countries and aren't nerds at all. I'm focusing on Public International Law (surprise, surprise).

And don't worry, there are lots of people here from "no name" universities. Having a first is what matters (plus references, etc.).

P.S.: If you put down King's as one of your college choices, I suggest emailing Susan immediately to change your choice. King's doesn't accept LLMers (I know, they should let us know that well in advance). Trinity is oversubscribed, so very hard to get in, but this year it accepted a decent amount (7). Many ended up in grad only colleges because they chose colleges like Trinity, St John's, King's.
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Mark W

P.S.: If you put down King's as one of your college choices, I suggest emailing Susan immediately to change your choice. King's doesn't accept LLMers (I know, they should let us know that well in advance). Trinity is oversubscribed, so very hard to get in, but this year it accepted a decent amount (7). Many ended up in grad only colleges because they chose colleges like Trinity, St John's, King's.


I did put down Trinity, but only because I'm a member of that college already from my first undergraduate degree at Cambridge many years ago (I'm now doing a law degree as a mature student). Apparently I would have had to ask for special dispensation to put down some other college!

Did you end up at a grad college? At least Clare Hall and Darwin are closish to the Law Faculty - better there than Girton! Not that you have a room in college, probably?

Didn't realise that in previous years (i.e. before 2013 start) it was only exceptional applicants that got early offers. Hard to gather that information from just reading the forums. What you say makes sense, then.

I was once thinking about doing PIL specialism, but I got my lowest module mark on my undergrad in PIL (unless I do worse in one of my last two exams in May), so perhaps my talents lie elsewhere (if anywhere).

edit - actually one substantive question. Do you know if Richard Fentiman is back from sabbatical next year, or if International Commercial Litigation is running with some other lecturer? No reason you should know, I suppose, but worth a shot.
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P.S.: If you put down King's as one of your college choices, I suggest emailing Susan immediately to change your choice. King's doesn't accept LLMers (I know, they should let us know that well in advance). Trinity is oversubscribed, so very hard to get in, but this year it accepted a decent amount (7). Many ended up in grad only colleges because they chose colleges like Trinity, St John's, King's.</blockquote>

I did put down Trinity, but only because I'm a member of that college already from my first undergraduate degree at Cambridge many years ago (I'm now doing a law degree as a mature student). Apparently I would have had to ask for special dispensation to put down some other college!

Did you end up at a grad college? At least Clare Hall and Darwin are closish to the Law Faculty - better there than Girton! Not that you have a room in college, probably?

Didn't realise that in previous years (i.e. before 2013 start) it was only exceptional applicants that got early offers. Hard to gather that information from just reading the forums. What you say makes sense, then.

I was once thinking about doing PIL specialism, but I got my lowest module mark on my undergrad in PIL (unless I do worse in one of my last two exams in May), so perhaps my talents lie elsewhere (if anywhere).

edit - actually one substantive question. Do you know if Richard Fentiman is back from sabbatical next year, or if International Commercial Litigation is running with some other lecturer? No reason you should know, I suppose, but worth a shot.
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Bolivia!
Yes, as far as I'm aware Fentiman will be back, don't fret. Apparently he's an amazing lecturer, and if you end up in Queens' (which I did), you'll have him as your tutor (I don't because he's on his sabbatical).

And yes, Trinity will most likely accept you again; there is a guy here that did his undergrad at Trinity as well.

Don't worry, at the subject forum at the beginning of Michaelmas Term (first term) you hear all about the different modules. Only 2-3 weeks into term you have to make a decision which courses to pick, so no need to waste thoughts on this now.

UNLESS you want to write a thesis. Already think about which topic this might be in. Many had already thought about it over the summer, and while this isn't a must, it certainly helps as the deadline for proposals is fairly early (late October, I think).

Nobody ended up in Girton or Selwyn. The majority ended up in Hughes Hall, Wolfson, Newnham. In terms of old colleges many (22) ended up in Queens', which seems to love LLMers. So if you put Queens' down even as your second choice, you should be on the safe side.

Other old colleges that accept more than just a handful LLMers are Sidney Sussex, Jesus, Clare (although that depends from year to year). Christ's only accepted 2, Emanuel only 1-2, Corpus only very few, Trinity Hall I think took bit less than 10. But I should emphasise that we are a particularly large cohort this year so next year colleges will accept far fewer students (Queens', for example, accepted only 11 last year, and Trinity almost none (7 this year)).
Yes, as far as I'm aware Fentiman will be back, don't fret. Apparently he's an amazing lecturer, and if you end up in Queens' (which I did), you'll have him as your tutor (I don't because he's on his sabbatical).

And yes, Trinity will most likely accept you again; there is a guy here that did his undergrad at Trinity as well.

Don't worry, at the subject forum at the beginning of Michaelmas Term (first term) you hear all about the different modules. Only 2-3 weeks into term you have to make a decision which courses to pick, so no need to waste thoughts on this now.

UNLESS you want to write a thesis. Already think about which topic this might be in. Many had already thought about it over the summer, and while this isn't a must, it certainly helps as the deadline for proposals is fairly early (late October, I think).

Nobody ended up in Girton or Selwyn. The majority ended up in Hughes Hall, Wolfson, Newnham. In terms of old colleges many (22) ended up in Queens', which seems to love LLMers. So if you put Queens' down even as your second choice, you should be on the safe side.

Other old colleges that accept more than just a handful LLMers are Sidney Sussex, Jesus, Clare (although that depends from year to year). Christ's only accepted 2, Emanuel only 1-2, Corpus only very few, Trinity Hall I think took bit less than 10. But I should emphasise that we are a particularly large cohort this year so next year colleges will accept far fewer students (Queens', for example, accepted only 11 last year, and Trinity almost none (7 this year)).
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Proson34
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Proson34
Other old colleges that accept more than just a handful LLMers are Sidney Sussex, Jesus, Clare (although that depends from year to year). Christ's only accepted 2, Emanuel only 1-2, Corpus only very few, Trinity Hall I think took bit less than 10. But I should emphasise that we are a particularly large cohort this year so next year colleges will accept far fewer students (Queens', for example, accepted only 11 last year, and Trinity almost none (7 this year)).


How are you finding the accommodation at Queens'?
Did anyone end up at St Catharine's College?
<blockquote> Other old colleges that accept more than just a handful LLMers are Sidney Sussex, Jesus, Clare (although that depends from year to year). Christ's only accepted 2, Emanuel only 1-2, Corpus only very few, Trinity Hall I think took bit less than 10. But I should emphasise that we are a particularly large cohort this year so next year colleges will accept far fewer students (Queens', for example, accepted only 11 last year, and Trinity almost none (7 this year)).</blockquote>

How are you finding the accommodation at Queens'?
Did anyone end up at St Catharine's College?
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Bolivia!
Yeah, 2 or 3 people got pooled to Catz. Not sure how they're finding it.

Queens' accommodation varies. A few live on-site, which is nice apparently, but you mainly live with undergrads and don't have proper kitchens but are required to eat in hall every day. Reason enough for me not to go for this option.

I live in a lovely old mansion which I share with 16 other grads. It's superb. Most grads are less lucky, though, and end up in Owlstone, which is a grad hostel accommodating ca. 100 grad students. Apparently it's not so nice but a lot cheaper. I've not been there, so can't comment much. There are also other grad houses similar to the one I'm living in.
Yeah, 2 or 3 people got pooled to Catz. Not sure how they're finding it.

Queens' accommodation varies. A few live on-site, which is nice apparently, but you mainly live with undergrads and don't have proper kitchens but are required to eat in hall every day. Reason enough for me not to go for this option.

I live in a lovely old mansion which I share with 16 other grads. It's superb. Most grads are less lucky, though, and end up in Owlstone, which is a grad hostel accommodating ca. 100 grad students. Apparently it's not so nice but a lot cheaper. I've not been there, so can't comment much. There are also other grad houses similar to the one I'm living in.
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Proson34
Yeah, 2 or 3 people got pooled to Catz. Not sure how they're finding it.


Thanks! One other question - how often do you go into your college and use the facilities etc? Would you study there? I'm assuming lectures are off-site...
<blockquote>Yeah, 2 or 3 people got pooled to Catz. Not sure how they're finding it. </blockquote>

Thanks! One other question - how often do you go into your college and use the facilities etc? Would you study there? I'm assuming lectures are off-site...
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Bolivia!
All lectures happen at the faculty and are not bound to any of the colleges. There are no supervisions/tutorials just small group seminars every now and then, also at the faculty.

Depends on you, really, how often you use the facilities/whether you eat in college/use the gym/library. You can be here every day or not at all. Queens' facilities are very good (and the food, too!).

P.S.: Currently writing this from Queens' library...
All lectures happen at the faculty and are not bound to any of the colleges. There are no supervisions/tutorials just small group seminars every now and then, also at the faculty.

Depends on you, really, how often you use the facilities/whether you eat in college/use the gym/library. You can be here every day or not at all. Queens' facilities are very good (and the food, too!).

P.S.: Currently writing this from Queens' library...
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hal123
Guys can someone make a wild guess when will be hearing about the first offer ????
:)
Guys can someone make a wild guess when will be hearing about the first offer ????
:)
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Mark W
Guys can someone make a wild guess when will be hearing about the first offer ????
:)


Anyone can make a wild guess :)

I'll guess 3pm on Thursday 30th January
<blockquote>Guys can someone make a wild guess when will be hearing about the first offer ????
:)</blockquote>

Anyone can make a wild guess :)

I'll guess 3pm on Thursday 30th January
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