I am hoping to do my LLM at Cambridge next year, but i have no idea as to which colleges to choose from. Some of the names are familiar because i vaguley remember them in connection to various law scholars and jurists but other than that, they all sound the same.
Any ideas as to which colleges are the best? Does it make a difference?
Cambridge Colleges
Posted Oct 17, 2006 10:15
Any ideas as to which colleges are the best? Does it make a difference?
Posted Oct 17, 2006 12:51
Hey,
Academically it doesnt matter a hoot which one you're in. You dont have classes in them and no supervisions. However, there are some important things you should think about when deciding. I didnt, but ended up being very very lucky. I just picked one that had a vaguely familiar name.
Most importantly, you will be living either in or around the college (if that). I know people who are in Kings, Gonville and Caius, Trinity and some other incredibly famous ones who all thought they would live in or near the really famous buildings you see in all the brochures. They live next door or close to one another in some houses ages away from the city centre and their colleges. They may as well have not applied to the various colleges cause they are all pretty much living in the same place. Advantage, you get to know the other people on your course, disadvantage, its not really what you were expecting. This is not the case with all colleges, though I think most of them have a policy of only housing undegraduates in the famous buildings and then farming off the graduates in cheap housing somewhere somewhat close by. I was very lucky in that I am living in college buildings, and our college houses are pretty much across the road from the main buildings so you still feel like you are part of the every day life.
The other thing you need to watch out for is where your college is located in relation to the law faculty and the city centre. The law faculty is on West Road, beautiful building all glass and the law library is located on the top three floors. Kings owns most of the land around it and the main Kings campus has a path that brings you there automatically. Clare College (huge) is right next to it and again, its buildings and campus is almost on the doorstep of the faculty. Next to that again is Trinity, then St Johns (HUGE). All of these have paths through them leading right into the heart of the city. About ten minutes walk along the road, right next to St Johns is Magdalene. You are now next to every restaurant and where they have the punting.
Sidney Sussex is in the city centre right across the road from Sainsbury's, but I dont know where they accomodate their students and if other city centre colleges are anything to go by its probably not in the city centre.
Also, do not expect luxury, in fact do not expect anything approaching legal in terms of accomodation. In Magdalene anyway, its about 6 people to every bathroom. I'm living in college and my room is big-ish (in comparison to what Ive seen) and heating works (again soooooo lucky), but its ammmmmm, tad shabby. I have a friend here whose heating and hot water doesnt work in the House she is in and now has the flu. Every room has a sink and a fridge. They also come with desks (I would hope) beds and wardrobes etc. This may vary from college to college.
You will also find that you will be socialising with other graduates in your college rather than people from your LLM class. You spend most of your time in your college so this is really only natural. They are great for organising social activities and its nice to meet people from other discilpines. All the scientists will think you're so quaint for learning about something as unproductive to society as law. Just wait until they need a patent ......
Anyway, in short, choosing the right college does have a very important impact on your year, but only in terms of your standard of living, accomodation and social life. If you choose with these criteria in mind then I think you will be making the best choice. Forget about looking at famous jurists and scholars etc, it is really secondary. It also tends to coincide with where they are located as the more famous colleges are invariably in the best locations.
I love it here. Take a look at the multimedia files they put up on the LLM website to see what courses you might like. Good luck.
Academically it doesnt matter a hoot which one you're in. You dont have classes in them and no supervisions. However, there are some important things you should think about when deciding. I didnt, but ended up being very very lucky. I just picked one that had a vaguely familiar name.
Most importantly, you will be living either in or around the college (if that). I know people who are in Kings, Gonville and Caius, Trinity and some other incredibly famous ones who all thought they would live in or near the really famous buildings you see in all the brochures. They live next door or close to one another in some houses ages away from the city centre and their colleges. They may as well have not applied to the various colleges cause they are all pretty much living in the same place. Advantage, you get to know the other people on your course, disadvantage, its not really what you were expecting. This is not the case with all colleges, though I think most of them have a policy of only housing undegraduates in the famous buildings and then farming off the graduates in cheap housing somewhere somewhat close by. I was very lucky in that I am living in college buildings, and our college houses are pretty much across the road from the main buildings so you still feel like you are part of the every day life.
The other thing you need to watch out for is where your college is located in relation to the law faculty and the city centre. The law faculty is on West Road, beautiful building all glass and the law library is located on the top three floors. Kings owns most of the land around it and the main Kings campus has a path that brings you there automatically. Clare College (huge) is right next to it and again, its buildings and campus is almost on the doorstep of the faculty. Next to that again is Trinity, then St Johns (HUGE). All of these have paths through them leading right into the heart of the city. About ten minutes walk along the road, right next to St Johns is Magdalene. You are now next to every restaurant and where they have the punting.
Sidney Sussex is in the city centre right across the road from Sainsbury's, but I dont know where they accomodate their students and if other city centre colleges are anything to go by its probably not in the city centre.
Also, do not expect luxury, in fact do not expect anything approaching legal in terms of accomodation. In Magdalene anyway, its about 6 people to every bathroom. I'm living in college and my room is big-ish (in comparison to what Ive seen) and heating works (again soooooo lucky), but its ammmmmm, tad shabby. I have a friend here whose heating and hot water doesnt work in the House she is in and now has the flu. Every room has a sink and a fridge. They also come with desks (I would hope) beds and wardrobes etc. This may vary from college to college.
You will also find that you will be socialising with other graduates in your college rather than people from your LLM class. You spend most of your time in your college so this is really only natural. They are great for organising social activities and its nice to meet people from other discilpines. All the scientists will think you're so quaint for learning about something as unproductive to society as law. Just wait until they need a patent ......
Anyway, in short, choosing the right college does have a very important impact on your year, but only in terms of your standard of living, accomodation and social life. If you choose with these criteria in mind then I think you will be making the best choice. Forget about looking at famous jurists and scholars etc, it is really secondary. It also tends to coincide with where they are located as the more famous colleges are invariably in the best locations.
I love it here. Take a look at the multimedia files they put up on the LLM website to see what courses you might like. Good luck.
Posted Oct 18, 2006 08:13
wow thanks for taking the time to reply. The info helped me alot. I'm surprised that u describe the accomodation as "shabby"...wouldn't have expected that from Cambridge! I decided to postpone LLM to year aftr next, but will definitely consider what u said when picking colleges. I thought colleges handled some of the academic aspects...at least tutorials, but they just sound like dorms from what you said. Well, now i have an year to decide...
Thanks again for the info & advice
Thanks again for the info & advice
Posted Oct 18, 2006 10:24
I think IrishGuy;s focus is very revealing. The choice of college for a LLM has more to do with the convenience of your studies and living than anything else. I still have no idea how you would rank any of the colleges. I suppose I'm happy to be at the architecturally famous college (Kings).
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