(Brief introducation of my situation) Do I have any chance to be offered by KCL


mychen
Hi all, I know it is very late for me to start a new application this year, but I would like to ask if there is a probability for me to be offered a place in either UCL or KCL, though I have been offered a place in Bristol and Manchester.

I am Chinese and doing a 3 year LLB with Swansea Uni, which is a UK average university in Wales, in the first year I have got only 54 average marks, and 60 exactly in year 2, and the average score of my last semester is 66. Plus I have been working as paralegal and immigration caseworker since the year 2 of the Uni.

I called UCL today and described my academic situation in brief, the officer said "I encourage you to start your application".......

Would you think if I have any chance to be offered a place by UCL or KCL for 2016 entry ?
Hi all, I know it is very late for me to start a new application this year, but I would like to ask if there is a probability for me to be offered a place in either UCL or KCL, though I have been offered a place in Bristol and Manchester.

I am Chinese and doing a 3 year LLB with Swansea Uni, which is a UK average university in Wales, in the first year I have got only 54 average marks, and 60 exactly in year 2, and the average score of my last semester is 66. Plus I have been working as paralegal and immigration caseworker since the year 2 of the Uni.

I called UCL today and described my academic situation in brief, the officer said "I encourage you to start your application".......

Would you think if I have any chance to be offered a place by UCL or KCL for 2016 entry ?
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Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways
Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways
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mychen
Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways


Thanks for your reply, I have bared in mind that there might be bad news . e.e...but I questioned about the "2 years practice in law", as I thought taught LLM does not really specifically pay that much attention in practice experience of candidate?
.........By the way top 5% in my Class have definitely secured their Training Contract XD.....
<blockquote>Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways</blockquote>

Thanks for your reply, I have bared in mind that there might be bad news . e.e...but I questioned about the "2 years practice in law", as I thought taught LLM does not really specifically pay that much attention in practice experience of candidate?
.........By the way&#12288;top 5% in my Class have definitely secured their Training Contract XD.....
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Minimum requirements to be considered for the LLM:
Undergraduate degree with high 2:1 honours (i.e. overall average of at least 65%) in Law or a degree with at least 70% law content, or an equivalent international qualification and grading.

Exceptionally, you may be considered where a comparable academic level has been achieved through other graduate studies (such as a Graduate Diploma in Law) and where work or experience (at least three years legal work experience) has made you a suitable candidate for the LLM.http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught-courses/master-of-laws-llm.aspx
Minimum requirements to be considered for the LLM:
Undergraduate degree with high 2:1 honours (i.e. overall average of at least 65%) in Law or a degree with at least 70% law content, or an equivalent international qualification and grading.

Exceptionally, you may be considered where a comparable academic level has been achieved through other graduate studies (such as a Graduate Diploma in Law) and where work or experience (at least three years legal work experience) has made you a suitable candidate for the LLM.http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught-courses/master-of-laws-llm.aspx
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mychen
Minimum requirements to be considered for the LLM:
Undergraduate degree with high 2:1 honours (i.e. overall average of at least 65%) in Law or a degree with at least 70% law content, or an equivalent international qualification and grading.

Exceptionally, you may be considered where a comparable academic level has been achieved through other graduate studies (such as a Graduate Diploma in Law) and where work or experience (at least three years legal work experience) has made you a suitable candidate for the LLM.http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught-courses/master-of-laws-llm.aspx


well....appreciate for helping me read it again e.e, I thought the second para is talking about alternative situation......And the reason I dare to start the topic with KCL is that I found the Entry requirement for International Dispute Resolution is 60%.....Anyway, I am not supposed to be there if they only want top 5% .....

thanks anyway
<blockquote>Minimum requirements to be considered for the LLM:
Undergraduate degree with high 2:1 honours (i.e. overall average of at least 65%) in Law or a degree with at least 70% law content, or an equivalent international qualification and grading.

Exceptionally, you may be considered where a comparable academic level has been achieved through other graduate studies (such as a Graduate Diploma in Law) and where work or experience (at least three years legal work experience) has made you a suitable candidate for the LLM.http://www.kcl.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/taught-courses/master-of-laws-llm.aspx</blockquote>

well....appreciate for helping me read it again e.e, I thought the second para is talking about alternative situation......And the reason I dare to start the topic with KCL is that I found the Entry requirement for International Dispute Resolution is 60%.....Anyway, I am not supposed to be there if they only want top 5% .....

thanks anyway
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Alain
Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways


I don't think this is true. I know several people who got accepted by KCL and did not belong to the top 5 % (or even top 30), nor did they have any work experience.

The only advice can be to try. There's nothing to lose.
<blockquote>Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways</blockquote>

I don't think this is true. I know several people who got accepted by KCL and did not belong to the top 5 % (or even top 30), nor did they have any work experience.

The only advice can be to try. There's nothing to lose.
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Some friends applied fullfilling such criterias and still got rejected.In case they were the exception to the rule you can check instead application tracker i posted link below about the entry requirements demandings work experience if you dont have the academic records they request!
Its not a personal vendeta but the truth may be hard.
Some friends applied fullfilling such criterias and still got rejected.In case they were the exception to the rule you can check instead application tracker i posted link below about the entry requirements demandings work experience if you dont have the academic records they request!
Its not a personal vendeta but the truth may be hard.
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LLM in Competition Law Top 5% 2 years Rejected 01-28-14
I ve not included applicants name of course.
LLM in Competition Law Top 5% 2 years Rejected 01-28-14
I ve not included applicants name of course.
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Alain
Quite interesting, also the past years:

http://www.llm-guide.com/university/104/university-of-london-kings-college-london-kcl/apptracker

I suppose, some people are exaggerating with their credentials (work experience = pqe)?
Quite interesting, also the past years:

http://www.llm-guide.com/university/104/university-of-london-kings-college-london-kcl/apptracker

I suppose, some people are exaggerating with their credentials (work experience = pqe)?
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Alain
LLM in International Commercial Law
Top 50%
0 years work exp.
Admitted 03-07-11
LLM in International Commercial Law
Top 50%
0 years work exp.
Admitted 03-07-11
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mychen
LLM in International Commercial Law
Top 50%
0 years work exp.
Admitted 03-07-11


Well this reinforced my courage to apply for LLM, thank you for your advice, you were correct that the application make no loss on me, apart from bottle of drink(for the 40 App fees)>.< Appreciate to your answer
And Plus
thank you very very very very much for your time to dig the history database which you not necessary to do......
<blockquote>LLM in International Commercial Law
Top 50%
0 years work exp.
Admitted 03-07-11</blockquote>

Well this reinforced my courage to apply for LLM, thank you for your advice, you were correct that the application make no loss on me, apart from bottle of drink(for the 40 App fees)>.< Appreciate to your answer
And Plus
thank you very very very very much for your time to dig the history database which you not necessary to do......
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mychen
Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways


Same to you, thank you for your time and answer, if there is any suggestion to UCL application?
Term used by UCL this year is a clear 2:1
<blockquote>Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways</blockquote>

Same to you, thank you for your time and answer, if there is any suggestion to UCL application?
Term used by UCL this year is a clear 2:1
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mychen
Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways


I don't think this is true. I know several people who got accepted by KCL and did not belong to the top 5 % (or even top 30), nor did they have any work experience.

The only advice can be to try. There's nothing to lose.


Would you see any chance to apply for UCL? term used this year is a clear 2:1
<blockquote><blockquote>Sorry to inform you bad it would be very hard to get accept:/
Kings college especially require s 2years practice in law and it is suggested to be in the top 5% of your class.
Moreover,applicants with such minimums have been rejected.
Good luck anyways</blockquote>

I don't think this is true. I know several people who got accepted by KCL and did not belong to the top 5 % (or even top 30), nor did they have any work experience.

The only advice can be to try. There's nothing to lose. </blockquote>

Would you see any chance to apply for UCL? term used this year is a clear 2:1
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Dude we both gave you some info advice but you have to make your own research just check threads concerning those programs or even contact with admissions office.
Dude we both gave you some info advice but you have to make your own research just check threads concerning those programs or even contact with admissions office.
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mychen
Dude we both gave you some info advice but you have to make your own research just check threads concerning those programs or even contact with admissions office.


that's what I did >.< I called UCL this morning and the response is "I encourage you to apply....." don't know if there is any implication or they just want me pay the application fee.....
<blockquote>Dude we both gave you some info advice but you have to make your own research just check threads concerning those programs or even contact with admissions office.</blockquote>

that's what I did >.< I called UCL this morning and the response is "I encourage you to apply....." don't know if there is any implication or they just want me pay the application fee.....
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How about you try? Sometimes these decisions appear very random to me and also, the longer you wait, the smaller your chances.
Give it a shot - there's nothing to lose but you can only win.

Got my fingers crossed for you mate
Cheers
How about you try? Sometimes these decisions appear very random to me and also, the longer you wait, the smaller your chances.
Give it a shot - there's nothing to lose but you can only win.

Got my fingers crossed for you mate
Cheers
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amynoemie
Hi!
I think you should definitely try! I am also at a rather average Uni (Kingston) but have been offered a place at both as well as Durham and LSE. I do not have much experience (2 months last summer) and my conditions are 60% for UCL and Durham, 65% for KCL and 70% for LSE. From your description it seems as if a year 3 overall of 60% is certainly possible! :)
Hi!
I think you should definitely try! I am also at a rather average Uni (Kingston) but have been offered a place at both as well as Durham and LSE. I do not have much experience (2 months last summer) and my conditions are 60% for UCL and Durham, 65% for KCL and 70% for LSE. From your description it seems as if a year 3 overall of 60% is certainly possible! :)
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Entry Requirements
The Executive LLM has three pre-requisites for admission:

1) You must have obtained very good grades in your law studies. The grades required for admission will be tailored to the system of legal education in the countries from which applicants have obtained, or will obtain, their qualifications. Places will normally only be offered to applicants with the equivalent of a high 2:1 in a UK Bachelor of Laws Degree.

2) You must have had at least three years post-degree experience in legal practice at the time of commencement of the programme. This could, for example, be in a law firm, government, a company, a non-governmental organisation or international organisation.
Entry Requirements
The Executive LLM has three pre-requisites for admission:

1) You must have obtained very good grades in your law studies. The grades required for admission will be tailored to the system of legal education in the countries from which applicants have obtained, or will obtain, their qualifications. Places will normally only be offered to applicants with the equivalent of a high 2:1 in a UK Bachelor of Laws Degree.

2) You must have had at least three years post-degree experience in legal practice at the time of commencement of the programme. This could, for example, be in a law firm, government, a company, a non-governmental organisation or international organisation.
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jacqaa
Hi, I applied last month to KCL. Since the admissions requirements include two letters of reference, I had them ready for my application. However, when I started my application, I there was a message saying that KCL only requires the references in extreme cases. So I did not have to upload the letters. A week later I recieved a conditional offer (English language entry requirement).

Considering that, I think that if you submit a REALLY GOOD personal statement, maybe they could ask you for the reference letters... Or maybe they could make an exception in your case.

If I were you, I would apply and I let them make a decision.
Hi, I applied last month to KCL. Since the admissions requirements include two letters of reference, I had them ready for my application. However, when I started my application, I there was a message saying that KCL only requires the references in extreme cases. So I did not have to upload the letters. A week later I recieved a conditional offer (English language entry requirement).

Considering that, I think that if you submit a REALLY GOOD personal statement, maybe they could ask you for the reference letters... Or maybe they could make an exception in your case.

If I were you, I would apply and I let them make a decision.
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mychen
Hi, I applied last month to KCL. Since the admissions requirements include two letters of reference, I had them ready for my application. However, when I started my application, I there was a message saying that KCL only requires the references in extreme cases. So I did not have to upload the letters. A week later I recieved a conditional offer (English language entry requirement).

Considering that, I think that if you submit a REALLY GOOD personal statement, maybe they could ask you for the reference letters... Or maybe they could make an exception in your case.

If I were you, I would apply and I let them make a decision.


Yup I have took a shot to both, guess 1st April gona be a big day as extra places might be available, because its the deadline for deposit payment I think
<blockquote>Hi, I applied last month to KCL. Since the admissions requirements include two letters of reference, I had them ready for my application. However, when I started my application, I there was a message saying that KCL only requires the references in extreme cases. So I did not have to upload the letters. A week later I recieved a conditional offer (English language entry requirement).

Considering that, I think that if you submit a REALLY GOOD personal statement, maybe they could ask you for the reference letters... Or maybe they could make an exception in your case.

If I were you, I would apply and I let them make a decision. </blockquote>

Yup I have took a shot to both, guess 1st April gona be a big day as extra places might be available, because its the deadline for deposit payment I think
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