Between Aberdeen, Birmingham & Nottingham


FreakOut

Hi,

I need help in deciding on a uni to attend for the LLM in International Commercial Law.

I've got offers from Aberdeen, Birmingham and Nottingham.

I've checked the modules offered in these uni and found that my interest subjects can also be studied in either one of the uni.

I am concern of the uni's reputation. Which one should i choose?

Thanks.

Hi,

I need help in deciding on a uni to attend for the LLM in International Commercial Law.

I've got offers from Aberdeen, Birmingham and Nottingham.

I've checked the modules offered in these uni and found that my interest subjects can also be studied in either one of the uni.

I am concern of the uni's reputation. Which one should i choose?

Thanks.
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Richie_85

I would say make a choice between Aberdeen and Nottingham. Birmingham is quite boring as regards the city. Aberdeen is said to be a bit dull, so I would personally say Nottingham. Nottingham Law School has a an excellent reputation for postgraduate education (LLM, GDL, LPC,BVC). University of Nottingham is alright, too, but for an LLM I would (and will!) prefer Nottingham Law School (NLS).

I would say make a choice between Aberdeen and Nottingham. Birmingham is quite boring as regards the city. Aberdeen is said to be a bit dull, so I would personally say Nottingham. Nottingham Law School has a an excellent reputation for postgraduate education (LLM, GDL, LPC,BVC). University of Nottingham is alright, too, but for an LLM I would (and will!) prefer Nottingham Law School (NLS).
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FreakOut

Thanks for your opinion.

Thanks for your opinion.
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jackoune

Hi,
I would say Aberdeen especially for international business Law.
You can choose some units on oil and gas and the teachers are great.
In addition, it is a very strong reputation uni and the fees are very cheap!

Hi,
I would say Aberdeen especially for international business Law.
You can choose some units on oil and gas and the teachers are great.
In addition, it is a very strong reputation uni and the fees are very cheap!
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Richie_85

Well, yeah, oil and gas is, of course, interesting. However, to my eyes Aberdeen is a bit far away from the rest of the world. Nottingham and Birmingham are in the heart of England.

Not sure about it, but I think the fees in Scotland are only low for Scottish people, aren't they? Or was it just for undergraduates? There was something...

Well, yeah, oil and gas is, of course, interesting. However, to my eyes Aberdeen is a bit far away from the rest of the world. Nottingham and Birmingham are in the heart of England.

Not sure about it, but I think the fees in Scotland are only low for Scottish people, aren't they? Or was it just for undergraduates? There was something...
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jackoune

waouhhhhhhh I never read something so stupid "aberdeen is a bit far away from the rest of the world"....are U kidding?!

If you take into account geographical criteria in order to choose your uni you should go and stay in London lol...
Birmingham and Nottigham are good universities but Aberdeen is a UK reference in international business law, with famous teachers such as Beaumont who is probably a reference in private international law and international business law in the UK!!!!
Look at the rankings.....9 times out of 10 aberdeen is better ranked than Nott and Birm!!!
ANd about the fees, they are the same for all the EU students but are much more important for other foreigners..

waouhhhhhhh I never read something so stupid "aberdeen is a bit far away from the rest of the world"....are U kidding?!

If you take into account geographical criteria in order to choose your uni you should go and stay in London lol...
Birmingham and Nottigham are good universities but Aberdeen is a UK reference in international business law, with famous teachers such as Beaumont who is probably a reference in private international law and international business law in the UK!!!!
Look at the rankings.....9 times out of 10 aberdeen is better ranked than Nott and Birm!!!
ANd about the fees, they are the same for all the EU students but are much more important for other foreigners..
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Richie_85

No need to insult me. I am just saying my opinion, if you dont agree, fair enough.

At the end of the day it is your performance that counts anyway. So, Aberdeen, Birmingham, Nottingham or which Uni whatsoever (and likewise Beaumont) dont help at all, when your marks are bad.

But you made your point, you'd prefer Aberdeen, I'd say Nottingham...maybe Birmingham is the right choice then ;-)

No need to insult me. I am just saying my opinion, if you dont agree, fair enough.

At the end of the day it is your performance that counts anyway. So, Aberdeen, Birmingham, Nottingham or which Uni whatsoever (and likewise Beaumont) dont help at all, when your marks are bad.

But you made your point, you'd prefer Aberdeen, I'd say Nottingham...maybe Birmingham is the right choice then ;-)
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FreakOut

Wow...what a debate in here. Anyway, thanks for all the replies.

Wow...what a debate in here. Anyway, thanks for all the replies.
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jackoune

No need to insult me.


I do not insult you at all. What I want to highlight is the fact that your are going to choose your LLM uni not for a geographical preference or because it is in scotland or in london but for the programm itself and for the professors.
A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.

<blockquote>No need to insult me. </blockquote>

I do not insult you at all. What I want to highlight is the fact that your are going to choose your LLM uni not for a geographical preference or because it is in scotland or in london but for the programm itself and for the professors.
A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.
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york

No need to insult me.


What I want to highlight is the fact that your are going to choose your LLM uni not for a geographical preference::


For most LLM students location does matter. After all you spend one year of your life abroad and you will (hopefully) not study all day.

<blockquote><blockquote>No need to insult me. </blockquote>

What I want to highlight is the fact that your are going to choose your LLM uni not for a geographical preference::
</blockquote>

For most LLM students location does matter. After all you spend one year of your life abroad and you will (hopefully) not study all day.
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jackoune

It is important to feel well in your univ, the place, the town...
But I think that you are not going to spend more than £5000 in order to visiting or partying!!!
In addition, I am aware that aberdeen is not very glamourous (I used to be a student over there as erasmus) but, I think that this is the place to be for me, no matter if it sometimes cold and dark lol

It is important to feel well in your univ, the place, the town...
But I think that you are not going to spend more than £5000 in order to visiting or partying!!!
In addition, I am aware that aberdeen is not very glamourous (I used to be a student over there as erasmus) but, I think that this is the place to be for me, no matter if it sometimes cold and dark lol
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york

I've never been to Aberdeen, but I like Scotland a lot. And London is not for everybody...

I've never been to Aberdeen, but I like Scotland a lot. And London is not for everybody...
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FreakOut

Yeah.. i don't like London either... But guess London has the best BVC providers i.e BPP, ICSL... When it's time for BVC or LPC, one has no choice but to go to London then..

Yeah.. i don't like London either... But guess London has the best BVC providers i.e BPP, ICSL... When it's time for BVC or LPC, one has no choice but to go to London then..
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TiGGer

No need to insult me.

A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.


Well, it may depend where you come from, but for example in Germany (where I come from) your marks in the LLM definetely DO count! If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV. It shows that you didn't spend your year abroad partying all day (as most of the Erasmus students do...maybe legitimately). Especially when you are a non-native-speaker and you can get a distinction I think this is enormous.
In addition, for me the location did count when I have chosen Nottingham for my LLM. It is perfect to travel (East-Midlands-Airport; centre of England) and I am really happy at Nottingham Law School. But Aberdeen may be nice, too. It's a matter of taste.

<blockquote><blockquote>No need to insult me. </blockquote>
A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.
</blockquote>

Well, it may depend where you come from, but for example in Germany (where I come from) your marks in the LLM definetely DO count! If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV. It shows that you didn't spend your year abroad partying all day (as most of the Erasmus students do...maybe legitimately). Especially when you are a non-native-speaker and you can get a distinction I think this is enormous.
In addition, for me the location did count when I have chosen Nottingham for my LLM. It is perfect to travel (East-Midlands-Airport; centre of England) and I am really happy at Nottingham Law School. But Aberdeen may be nice, too. It's a matter of taste.
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Richie_85


If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV.
I am really happy at Nottingham Law School.


Trust me, TiGGer, marks are also important in the UK - also in an LLM programme!

Great you like Nottingham Law School (Nottingham Trent University). I will come over, too, after my LLB at University of Nottingham. Maybe we can meet sometime in the city...

<blockquote>
If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV.
I am really happy at Nottingham Law School.
</blockquote>

Trust me, TiGGer, marks are also important in the UK - also in an LLM programme!

Great you like Nottingham Law School (Nottingham Trent University). I will come over, too, after my LLB at University of Nottingham. Maybe we can meet sometime in the city...
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jackoune

No need to insult me.

A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.


Well, it may depend where you come from, but for example in Germany (where I come from) your marks in the LLM definetely DO count! If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV. It shows that you didn't spend your year abroad partying all day (as most of the Erasmus students do...maybe legitimately). Especially when you are a non-native-speaker and you can get a distinction I think this is enormous.

I don't say that marks are not important but, don't forget that the LLM is only a 9month programm and that you gonna only have 4 or 5 lectures therefore, that is especially the degrees you passed in your homecountry that are going to be taken into account.
I have not started my LLM yet, but I already signed a contract for a big 4...they consider the LLM as a "label" and are expecting a perfect knowledge of the english.
It is not a summary only a rapid overview of the common law system!

Nottingham seem great for sport law and does not seem so expensive.

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>No need to insult me. </blockquote>
A last thing, I do not think that marks are at stake in the LLM programme.
It is often the last diploma you gonna get before starting your professional life and for most of the foreigners, you only wanna get an expertise or a common law background.
</blockquote>

Well, it may depend where you come from, but for example in Germany (where I come from) your marks in the LLM definetely DO count! If you can get a distinction (70% or above) in your LLM this is a big plus in your CV. It shows that you didn't spend your year abroad partying all day (as most of the Erasmus students do...maybe legitimately). Especially when you are a non-native-speaker and you can get a distinction I think this is enormous.
</blockquote>
I don't say that marks are not important but, don't forget that the LLM is only a 9month programm and that you gonna only have 4 or 5 lectures therefore, that is especially the degrees you passed in your homecountry that are going to be taken into account.
I have not started my LLM yet, but I already signed a contract for a big 4...they consider the LLM as a "label" and are expecting a perfect knowledge of the english.
It is not a summary only a rapid overview of the common law system!

Nottingham seem great for sport law and does not seem so expensive.
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TiGGer


I don't say that marks are not important but, don't forget that the LLM is only a 9month programm and that you gonna only have 4 or 5 lectures therefore, that is especially the degrees you passed in your homecountry that are going to be taken into account.
I have not started my LLM yet, but I already signed a contract for a big 4...they consider the LLM as a "label" and are expecting a perfect knowledge of the english.
It is not a summary only a rapid overview of the common law system!

Nottingham seem great for sport law and does not seem so expensive.


I don't know which law firms you consider as the big 4 (I'd say Freshfields, Lovells, Clifford Chance, Linklaters), but I have quite a lot of friends in all of these big ones and YES I can confirm, the "LL.M." is a label. Non-English-natives are (at least in Germany) expected to spend one year abroad for international experiences and to improve their English. It is almost not relevant WHERE they do it as long as it is an English or American institution. However, good marks are definetely a plus and are indeed helpful, if one wants to apply for a PhD later on.

Oh, and Nottingham is actually more expensive than I expected. Of course, it is not London or Edinburgh...

<blockquote>
I don't say that marks are not important but, don't forget that the LLM is only a 9month programm and that you gonna only have 4 or 5 lectures therefore, that is especially the degrees you passed in your homecountry that are going to be taken into account.
I have not started my LLM yet, but I already signed a contract for a big 4...they consider the LLM as a "label" and are expecting a perfect knowledge of the english.
It is not a summary only a rapid overview of the common law system!

Nottingham seem great for sport law and does not seem so expensive.</blockquote>

I don't know which law firms you consider as the big 4 (I'd say Freshfields, Lovells, Clifford Chance, Linklaters), but I have quite a lot of friends in all of these big ones and YES I can confirm, the "LL.M." is a label. Non-English-natives are (at least in Germany) expected to spend one year abroad for international experiences and to improve their English. It is almost not relevant WHERE they do it as long as it is an English or American institution. However, good marks are definetely a plus and are indeed helpful, if one wants to apply for a PhD later on.

Oh, and Nottingham is actually more expensive than I expected. Of course, it is not London or Edinburgh...
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