Best Maritime Law LLM


spitsos
I want a prestigious choice for maritime law that would also have good teaching staff and environment.. Any suggestions?
I want a prestigious choice for maritime law that would also have good teaching staff and environment.. Any suggestions?
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flori
Hello Spitsos,

I want a prestigious choice for maritime law that would also have good teaching staff and environment.. Any suggestions?


Prestigious choice? In my own opinion none of the law schools offering refined maritime law programs are in the premier league when it comes to prestige - if prestige is your priority, head for Oxford, Cambridge etc.

That said both Southampton and Swansea (in alphabetical order) offer solid maritime law programs. The question whether Southampton or Swansea is the better choice has been endlessly debated, in my eyes the differences is marginal. (Would not have wanted to live in Southampton, though).

Bye
flori
Hello Spitsos,

<blockquote>I want a prestigious choice for maritime law that would also have good teaching staff and environment.. Any suggestions?</blockquote>

Prestigious choice? In my own opinion none of the law schools offering refined maritime law programs are in the premier league when it comes to prestige - if prestige is your priority, head for Oxford, Cambridge etc.

That said both Southampton and Swansea (in alphabetical order) offer solid maritime law programs. The question whether Southampton or Swansea is the better choice has been endlessly debated, in my eyes the differences is marginal. (Would not have wanted to live in Southampton, though).

Bye
flori
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spitsos
Thank you for your answer! The thing is, i can't find the Maritime Law LLM of Oxford.. Is there such thing?
Thank you for your answer! The thing is, i can't find the Maritime Law LLM of Oxford.. Is there such thing?
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flori
No.
No.
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spitsos
I don't get it.. Why do you suggest it, if it doesn't exist? Am i getting something wrong?
Thank you for your replies in the first place :)
I don't get it.. Why do you suggest it, if it doesn't exist? Am i getting something wrong?
Thank you for your replies in the first place :)
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flori
I didn't suggest it. I tried to convey the message that it will either be an LLM (MJur) at a _really_ prestigious law school or an LLM at a law school offering maritime law..

Bye
flori
I didn't suggest it. I tried to convey the message that it will either be an LLM (MJur) at a _really_ prestigious law school or an LLM at a law school offering maritime law..

Bye
flori
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spitsos
Oh ok!
Sorry i didn't get it!
Last question: If you were admitted both by Swansea and Southampton, which would you choose?
Thank you for your time!
Oh ok!
Sorry i didn't get it!
Last question: If you were admitted both by Swansea and Southampton, which would you choose?
Thank you for your time!
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flori
Swansea - without hesitation. (As aforementioned, I would not want to live in Southampton.)
Swansea - without hesitation. (As aforementioned, I would not want to live in Southampton.)
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spitsos
Thank you for your time!
Thank you for your time!
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Wheretogo_
Prestigious and with excellent links within law firms is without a doubt Bristol University.

Please have a look:

http://www.bris.ac.uk/law/pgdegrees/taughtdegrees/llm-advanced-study/llm-maritime.html

Worth applying and studying at Bristol!
Prestigious and with excellent links within law firms is without a doubt Bristol University.

Please have a look:

http://www.bris.ac.uk/law/pgdegrees/taughtdegrees/llm-advanced-study/llm-maritime.html

Worth applying and studying at Bristol!
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flori
Whilst Bristol University may be prestigious, their maritime law program certainly is not.

I guess that their "impressive list" of maritime law core units says everything one needs to know about this course:
http://www.bris.ac.uk/law/pgdegrees/taughtdegrees/llm-advanced-study/llm-maritime.html
"Maritime Law Core Units

The Maritime Law core units are:

Admiralty Law (Not available 2012-2013 Session)
Carriage of Goods
International Law of the Sea
Marine Insurance Law"

Southampton or Swansea on the other hand...

Bye
flori
P.S.
If the "prestige" is so important, one might want to consider Nottingham... (Have a close look at the modules in advance - if Marine Insurance is still taught by Prof. Bennett himself, this might compensate the scarcity of maritime law modules.)
Whilst Bristol University may be prestigious, their maritime law program certainly is not.

I guess that their "impressive list" of maritime law core units says everything one needs to know about this course:
http://www.bris.ac.uk/law/pgdegrees/taughtdegrees/llm-advanced-study/llm-maritime.html
"Maritime Law Core Units

The Maritime Law core units are:

Admiralty Law (Not available 2012-2013 Session)
Carriage of Goods
International Law of the Sea
Marine Insurance Law"

Southampton or Swansea on the other hand...

Bye
flori
P.S.
If the "prestige" is so important, one might want to consider Nottingham... (Have a close look at the modules in advance - if Marine Insurance is still taught by Prof. Bennett himself, this might compensate the scarcity of maritime law modules.)
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Wheretogo_
It's worth looking at Bristol and Nottingham University. Those are in my view (and I trained in a shipping firm) your best bets.
It's worth looking at Bristol and Nottingham University. Those are in my view (and I trained in a shipping firm) your best bets.
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Hariklia
Hello there..!
If there are any greek speakers this is a blog you might be interested in checking out, regarding postgraduate life in Southampton.
Regards,
H.

http://mastersviewinsouthampton.blogspot.co.uk/
Hello there..!
If there are any greek speakers this is a blog you might be interested in checking out, regarding postgraduate life in Southampton.
Regards,
H.

http://mastersviewinsouthampton.blogspot.co.uk/
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Brainy Smu...
Maritime Law (Law of the Sea) list:

Bristol
City (HK)
City (London)
Comillas
Hertfordshire
IMLI
London Met
Nottingham
NUS
Oslo
Plymouth
Rotterdam
Southampton
Swansea
Tulane
Wollongong

It would be best to research unis with both Commercial and International Law programmes.

Kind regards.
Maritime Law (Law of the Sea) list:

Bristol
City (HK)
City (London)
Comillas
Hertfordshire
IMLI
London Met
Nottingham
NUS
Oslo
Plymouth
Rotterdam
Southampton
Swansea
Tulane
Wollongong

It would be best to research unis with both Commercial and International Law programmes.

Kind regards.
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frenchman
You're forgetting Queen Mary which opens one in September !! I'm thinking about joining it as well, what do you think ? http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/llm/programmes/shipping/index.html
You're forgetting Queen Mary which opens one in September !! I'm thinking about joining it as well, what do you think ? http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/llm/programmes/shipping/index.html
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flori
Hello Frenchman,

You're forgetting Queen Mary which opens one in September !! I'm thinking about joining it as well, what do you think ? http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/llm/programmes/shipping/index.html


Whilst the program might be one of the better ones some day in the future, I would - just my personal opinion - never ever sign up to be a human guinea pig in a "just opened"-program.
Bye
flori
Hello Frenchman,

<blockquote>You're forgetting Queen Mary which opens one in September !! I'm thinking about joining it as well, what do you think ? http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/llm/programmes/shipping/index.html</blockquote>

Whilst the program might be one of the better ones some day in the future, I would - just my personal opinion - never ever sign up to be a human guinea pig in a "just opened"-program.
Bye
flori
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nazaar
Hi
I am interested in maritime law also, actualy I already have master degree in international commercial law from Iran but like to take the LL.M in maritime law. Is there any chance for me to get a scholarship some where in Europe or US?
thank you
Hi
I am interested in maritime law also, actualy I already have master degree in international commercial law from Iran but like to take the LL.M in maritime law. Is there any chance for me to get a scholarship some where in Europe or US?
thank you
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ramahel
Hi,
My name is Ramah, I am from France and I received an offer for the LLM maritime law of the University of Southampton. I have also get an offer from Queen Mary University and i'am waiting swansea's response. I am terribly hesitating...
many say that swansea's LLM became number 1. Is it true?

I am also hesitating between the reputation of QMU and the reputation of Southampton, swansea's LLM.
What do you think? your opinions please
thanks
Cordialy
Ramah
Hi,
My name is Ramah, I am from France and I received an offer for the LLM maritime law of the University of Southampton. I have also get an offer from Queen Mary University and i'am waiting swansea's response. I am terribly hesitating...
many say that swansea's LLM became number 1. Is it true?

I am also hesitating between the reputation of QMU and the reputation of Southampton, swansea's LLM.
What do you think? your opinions please
thanks
Cordialy
Ramah
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Bpvoy4
I have never studied in Southampton so I cannot tell you nothing about it, but I'm actually studying in swansea so I can tell you how the modules and teachers are lack of seriousness.

This years they introduced the module of oil&gas, which everyone are complaining about it for many reasons. Firstly, five teachers delivered lectures, which were quite confused and uncertainty. One of them is a PhD student, who also marked our courseworks with results really unfair and feedback more than doubtful. (How a phd student can have similar responsibilities?) Secondly, the financial aspects were delivered by a professor who taught undergraduate students and his way to deliver lectures was quite messy and confuse. Thirdly, the phd delivered seminars quite incoherent and sometimes she was even able to give appropriate answer.

The chief of the master is not available to listen and help student in terms of advice and support. However his knowledge are really deep. I can assert that he is a good professor but he doesn't know how to act with people. ( I got good grade in his module)

Here it looks like everyone are expert of everything, so it is not rare that different professors mark the same modules. Master should be something where each one as knowledge in each modules.
Here everyone knows everything.

Last but not least, the feedback are often weak of advice and poor of context.

On the other professors such as Baughen and Richards Williams keep high the level of their class.

I suggest you guys to think properly about it, because it will be one of the most important chose of your life.

Regards and good luck.
I have never studied in Southampton so I cannot tell you nothing about it, but I'm actually studying in swansea so I can tell you how the modules and teachers are lack of seriousness.

This years they introduced the module of oil&gas, which everyone are complaining about it for many reasons. Firstly, five teachers delivered lectures, which were quite confused and uncertainty. One of them is a PhD student, who also marked our courseworks with results really unfair and feedback more than doubtful. (How a phd student can have similar responsibilities?) Secondly, the financial aspects were delivered by a professor who taught undergraduate students and his way to deliver lectures was quite messy and confuse. Thirdly, the phd delivered seminars quite incoherent and sometimes she was even able to give appropriate answer.

The chief of the master is not available to listen and help student in terms of advice and support. However his knowledge are really deep. I can assert that he is a good professor but he doesn't know how to act with people. ( I got good grade in his module)

Here it looks like everyone are expert of everything, so it is not rare that different professors mark the same modules. Master should be something where each one as knowledge in each modules.
Here everyone knows everything.

Last but not least, the feedback are often weak of advice and poor of context.

On the other professors such as Baughen and Richards Williams keep high the level of their class.

I suggest you guys to think properly about it, because it will be one of the most important chose of your life.

Regards and good luck.
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flori
Hello everyone,


I suggest you guys to think properly about it, because it will be one of the most important chose of your life.


Whilst making the choice between different LLM programs certainly is not a matter of 15 minutes, it isn't rocket science either. Furthermore, I would not overrate the consequences of the decision...

Let's have a look at the set-up for Ramah:
1. Neither of the potential universities is a first tier university (in a sense of Oxbridge or Ivy League).
2. However, neither is a last tier university - e.g. none of them is a "Metropolitan University of Provincialbackwatershire".
3. Any remaining differences between the respective reputations will lead up to the question whether it is better to buy the reputation/access to the alumni network etc. of an university (QMU; definitely best reputation when it comes to the university in general) or of an a well-established LLM course with lecturers well-known in the shipping industry (Soton/Swansea).

In the end, if you are determined to enter the shipping law world -> go to Soton/Swansea for the industry contacts, alumni network etc and choose solely maritime law modules (no e-commerce, banking law or other stuff)..

If you are not entirely sure about the intended direction of your career and/or want the experience of a very well-reputed university -> go to QMU...

Bye
flori
Hello everyone,

<blockquote>
I suggest you guys to think properly about it, because it will be one of the most important chose of your life.
</blockquote>

Whilst making the choice between different LLM programs certainly is not a matter of 15 minutes, it isn't rocket science either. Furthermore, I would not overrate the consequences of the decision...

Let's have a look at the set-up for Ramah:
1. Neither of the potential universities is a first tier university (in a sense of Oxbridge or Ivy League).
2. However, neither is a last tier university - e.g. none of them is a "Metropolitan University of Provincialbackwatershire".
3. Any remaining differences between the respective reputations will lead up to the question whether it is better to buy the reputation/access to the alumni network etc. of an university (QMU; definitely best reputation when it comes to the university in general) or of an a well-established LLM course with lecturers well-known in the shipping industry (Soton/Swansea).

In the end, if you are determined to enter the shipping law world -> go to Soton/Swansea for the industry contacts, alumni network etc and choose solely maritime law modules (no e-commerce, banking law or other stuff)..

If you are not entirely sure about the intended direction of your career and/or want the experience of a very well-reputed university -> go to QMU...

Bye
flori
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