will foreign llb and patent bar allow me sit the bar in the US?

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Posted Jan 20, 2020 18:38

Assuming I am admitted to practice before the USPTO by taking the patent bar exam. If I do the university of london 2 year LLB, will I be able to take the bar? will I need a LLM?

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jwpetterch...

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Posted Jan 20, 2020 20:10

You will not be able to take a bar exam with the UoL 2 year LLB by distance education. You’ll need an LLM and even then the state regulators will need to evaluate your credentials and approve your nonstandard qualifications.

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Michael Be...

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Posted Jan 20, 2020 21:00

You will not be able to take a bar exam with the UoL 2 year LLB by distance education. You’ll need an LLM and even then the state regulators will need to evaluate your credentials and approve your nonstandard qualifications.

I read now the rules of vermont and don't understand why you are so sure.

rule 8 (a, has a "equivilance requirement. If the degree does not satisfy this it can be cured with a LLM. I didn't calculate it thru, but it seemed that the UOL 2Y LLB should be OK.

rule 8(b, requires that the applicant be admitted to law practice. But says that the bar can "waive this requirement for good cause". Would passing the patent bar be a "good cause"? The rules do not say that a LLM will cure this, unless a LLM is considered a "good cause".

It seems that it all boils down to what is a "good cause". maybe another state is different.

https://www.vermontjudiciary.org/sites/default/files/documents/900-00014_5.pdf

[quote]You will not be able to take a bar exam with the UoL 2 year LLB by distance education. You’ll need an LLM and even then the state regulators will need to evaluate your credentials and approve your nonstandard qualifications. [/quote]

I read now the rules of vermont and don't understand why you are so sure.

rule 8 (a, has a "equivilance requirement. If the degree does not satisfy this it can be cured with a LLM. I didn't calculate it thru, but it seemed that the UOL 2Y LLB should be OK.

rule 8(b, requires that the applicant be admitted to law practice. But says that the bar can "waive this requirement for good cause". Would passing the patent bar be a "good cause"? The rules do not say that a LLM will cure this, unless a LLM is considered a "good cause".

It seems that it all boils down to what is a "good cause". maybe another state is different.

https://www.vermontjudiciary.org/sites/default/files/documents/900-00014_5.pdf

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jwpetterch...

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Posted Jan 20, 2020 21:48

One of the things about equivalence is that it needs to be at least 3 years in duration and done in-residence in the common law. Overseas correspondence law schools are not equivalent in the US, anywhere. You can do the UoL 2 year LLB and then get an LLM and hope the Vermont bar regulators will let you take the exam, *but* they won’t tell you any of this until after you at least have an LLM or LLB in hand and apply, meaning your plan could go up in smoke after you’ve substantially or at least half completed it. I have experience with this- bar regulators do not consider shortcut correspondence courses equivalent. I don’t think this works.

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