Does anyone know if there are any areas with no bar exam? I have an American JD (thinking about going for an LLM) and open to practicing pretty much anymore (including non American nations)
Are there any areas that let you practice with just a law degree?
Areas with no bar exam
Posted Dec 03, 2013 08:38
Are there any areas that let you practice with just a law degree?
Posted Dec 03, 2013 08:44
i think all jurisdiction requires the passing of the bar. one cannot practice if he or she is not a licensed lawyer.
Posted Dec 03, 2013 08:48
I know that there needs to be a license, but as an example Wisconsin still lets their (in state) grads skip the bar.
I am not an instate grad, and as such am hoping some other area has a similar policy where you still get licensed, but just not with a formal bar exam.
Knowing that Wisconsin is that way (to some degree) one would think that somewhere out there is places that one could pull it off.
I just don't know where to look is all and hoping someone has the link to the areas that do. (if any exist)
I am not an instate grad, and as such am hoping some other area has a similar policy where you still get licensed, but just not with a formal bar exam.
Knowing that Wisconsin is that way (to some degree) one would think that somewhere out there is places that one could pull it off.
I just don't know where to look is all and hoping someone has the link to the areas that do. (if any exist)
Posted Dec 09, 2013 03:14
So no one knows of anything relevant to the topic I take it?
Posted May 17, 2014 01:00
Majority of jurisdiction do require a bar exam...and a lot of pre-requisites for a foreigner to do prior to becoming eligible to sit for it. Additional constraint is the language... what other languages do you speak? :D
Posted May 17, 2014 01:07
In theory you could represent clients in arbitral matters without having passed the bar exam anywhere. That being said, however, I would say that it is nearly impossible to convince anyone to represent them in proceedings without showing that you passed the bar somewhere.
Same holds true for being an actual arbitrator. Those that are selected by the parties involved are either lawyers that have passed the bar exam or are specialists in specific areas such as shipping, which makes sense if a shipping dispute is at hand. Apart from that I can't think of an area of law that does not require sitting the bar exam.
Is there any particular reason why you oppose sitting the bar?
Same holds true for being an actual arbitrator. Those that are selected by the parties involved are either lawyers that have passed the bar exam or are specialists in specific areas such as shipping, which makes sense if a shipping dispute is at hand. Apart from that I can't think of an area of law that does not require sitting the bar exam.
Is there any particular reason why you oppose sitting the bar?
Posted May 17, 2014 01:18
Representing in arbitration and arbitrating generally do not require bar qualifications...practicing law in general does, at least in Europe...
Posted May 17, 2014 09:00
Assuming I understood the question, obviously international law positions would as a whole not require you to register as a lawyer in any particular jurisdiction. So working for the United Nations, for international tribunal, for international organizations or for human rights ngos, not to mention teaching international law in some capacity or other - can in most cases be done without taking the bar first.
Posted May 17, 2014 12:44
Assuming I understood the question, obviously international law positions would as a whole not require you to register as a lawyer in any particular jurisdiction. So working for the United Nations, for international tribunal, for international organizations or for human rights ngos, not to mention teaching international law in some capacity or other - can in most cases be done without taking the bar first.
This is true, hopefulcandidate, I agree with you on this one but I understood that the point is in practicing as an attorney... As far as I know, major jurisdictions do not allow for unlicensed practice of law :(...
This is true, hopefulcandidate, I agree with you on this one but I understood that the point is in practicing as an attorney... As far as I know, major jurisdictions do not allow for unlicensed practice of law :(...
Posted May 18, 2014 15:02
I don't understand why anyone would want to avoid taking bar exams even if it is possible to practice without it. Not only would it limit the jurisdictions in which you may practice but it would also limit your professional credentials.
Posted May 30, 2014 21:14
BAR is a certification of professional level in advocacy. This is just normal....
Posted May 31, 2014 04:35
Exactly. It is a professional credential. I don't know why anyone would like to skip that.
Posted May 31, 2014 18:20
Also, it speaks volumes in terms of person's capacity to represent a client in a certain legal system and be adept at giving proper advice... Sort of a what a lawyer should be doing :D
Posted May 31, 2014 18:35
A law graduate without a bar qualification or admission is sort of in limbo, right?
Posted May 31, 2014 18:35
Perfect comparison, KJP...
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