Southampton, Swansea, Tulane, Rotterdam Maritime Law LLM


Ays

Hello everyone,


Could you please provide some information about the following schools in regard to Maritime Law LLM programs? If you are currently studying there or have graduated from any of these institutions, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experiences.

 Southampton University

Swansea University

Tulane University

Erasmus University Rotterdam

 Thank you in advance.

[Edited by Ays on May 24, 2023]

Hello everyone,<br><br>
Could you please provide some information about the following schools in regard to Maritime Law LLM programs? If you are currently studying there or have graduated from any of these institutions, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experiences.<br><br>&nbsp;Southampton University<br>
Swansea University<br>
Tulane University<br>
Erasmus University Rotterdam<br><br>&nbsp;Thank you in advance.
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Hi, 

I have studied from Swansea and the experience of studying and learning there was more than amazing for me - despite the fact that I was there in the year when COVID hit the globe. 

As part of your research, do understand that perhaps Erasmus and Tulane will not focus on English law perspective. So choose the course accordingly. Between Swansea and Southampton - there are pros and cons of each and you need to take a judgement call.

Cheers,
Puneet 

Hi,&nbsp;<br><br>I have studied from Swansea and the experience of studying and learning there was more than amazing for me - despite the fact that I was there in the year when COVID hit the globe.&nbsp;<br><br>As part of your research, do understand that perhaps Erasmus and Tulane will not focus on English law perspective. So choose the course accordingly. Between Swansea and Southampton - there are pros and cons of each and you need to take a judgement call.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Puneet&nbsp;
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Hello Ays!

Tulane is always happy to assist in connecting you with students and graduates of our program.  Feel free to set up a virtual appointment with a member of our admissions team and we can talk to you and certainly do our best to connect you with current students or alumni from your region of the world!  https://law.tulane.edu/content/llmsjd-virtual-information-sessions

Best always,

David Weinberg

Assistant Dean, Admissions
dweinbe@tulane.edu

Hello Ays!<br><br>Tulane is always happy to assist in connecting you with students and graduates of our program.&nbsp; Feel free to set up a virtual appointment with a member of our admissions team and we can talk to you and certainly do our best to connect you with current students or alumni from your region of the world!&nbsp; https://law.tulane.edu/content/llmsjd-virtual-information-sessions<br><br>Best always,<br><br>David Weinberg<br><br>Assistant Dean, Admissions<br>dweinbe@tulane.edu
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Hello everyone,



Could you please provide some information about the following schools in regard to Maritime Law LLM programs? If you are currently studying there or have graduated from any of these institutions, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experiences.

 Southampton University


Swansea University


Tulane University


Erasmus University Rotterdam

 Thank you in advance.



Hi there

I am a UCL soon to be LLM graduate but Ive been working in maritime law as a litigator and on in-house roles for about 7yrs now. 

My suggestion would depend greatly on which continent you reside, e.g., Americas - Tulane as the US is the country that the Americas follow academically and everything else does not exist. HR's would stare at your face when you mention Swansea, Southampton or UCL. 

Now if you live in Europe then most definitely I would go for the new number #1 Swansea, #2 Southampton and #3 UCL. Southampton is still regarded by some as the top, but Swansea in my personal opinion via working in the field is preparing students better, but yet they do not have the fame the Southampton has and UCL well both of them cannot compete against the Legal Giant and 3rd overall in the UK after Oxbridge. 

Futhermore, Globally in the maritime industry I would say 1). Southampton (everyone knows about it, and there still good), 2). Swansea, 3rd) UCL (their programme is academically amazing with Prof. Peters Eggers and Melis Ozdel, two leading professors in marine insurance, international trade law and carriage of goods by sea) and 4th). Tulane (just if you live in the Americas). 

All the best 

[Edited by TheRuleofLaw on Jun 20, 2023]

[quote]Hello everyone,<br><br><br>
Could you please provide some information about the following schools in regard to Maritime Law LLM programs? If you are currently studying there or have graduated from any of these institutions, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your experiences.<br><br>&nbsp;Southampton University<br><br>
Swansea University<br><br>
Tulane University<br><br>
Erasmus University Rotterdam<br><br>&nbsp;Thank you in advance. [/quote]<br><br><br>Hi there<br><br>I am a UCL soon to be LLM graduate but Ive been working in maritime law as a litigator and on in-house roles for about 7yrs now.&nbsp;<br><br>My suggestion would depend greatly on which continent you reside, e.g., Americas - Tulane as the US is the country that the Americas follow academically and everything else does not exist. HR's would stare at your face when you mention Swansea, Southampton or UCL.&nbsp;<br><br>Now if you live in Europe then most definitely I would go for the new number #1 Swansea, #2 Southampton and #3 UCL. Southampton is still regarded by some as the top, but Swansea in my personal opinion via working in the field is preparing students better, but yet they do not have the fame the Southampton has and UCL well both of them cannot compete against the Legal Giant and 3rd overall in the UK after Oxbridge.&nbsp;<br><br>Futhermore, Globally in the maritime industry I would say 1). Southampton (everyone knows about it, and there still good), 2). Swansea, 3rd) UCL (their programme is academically amazing with Prof. Peters Eggers and Melis Ozdel, two leading professors in marine insurance, international trade law and carriage of goods by sea) and 4th). Tulane (just if you live in the Americas).&nbsp;<br><br>All the best&nbsp;
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Tom2019

If you want to work in the UK, then go to Swansea, without question. 

EU unis are not interesting for UK law firms, unfortunately, but if you want to work in Europe they are useful because they will teach you civil law. I don't know anyone who went to Rotterdam so can't comment. 

If you want to go to the UK, I highly recommend Swansea. I went there myself and found it a very worthwhile experience. They helped me a lot through the year and without them I would not have the job I do now. From what I have heard, maritime law is no longer a priority for Soton and the famous lecturers all left a long time ago.

As for UCL, Eggers is a member of the Swansea research institute as well, alongside other important barristers like Simon Rainey. Personally, Melis Ozdel is not as accomplished as the famous Prof Soyer for marine insurance - big character and top notch. He works with some greats like Prof Tettenborn (he is currently the writer for Marsden Collisions at Sea).

If you want to work in the UK, then go to Swansea, without question.&nbsp;<br><br>EU unis are not interesting for UK law firms, unfortunately, but if you want to work in Europe they are useful because they will teach you civil law. I don't know anyone who went to Rotterdam so can't comment.&nbsp;<br><br>If you want to go to the UK, I highly recommend Swansea. I went there myself and found it a very worthwhile experience. They helped me a lot through the year and without them I would not have the job I do now. From what I have heard, maritime law is no longer a priority for Soton and the famous lecturers all left a long time ago.<br><br>As for UCL, Eggers is a member of the Swansea research institute as well, alongside other important barristers like Simon Rainey. Personally, Melis Ozdel is not as accomplished as the famous Prof Soyer for marine insurance - big character and top notch. He works with some greats like Prof Tettenborn (he is currently the writer for Marsden Collisions at Sea).
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If you want to work in the UK, then go to Swansea, without question. 

EU unis are not interesting for UK law firms, unfortunately, but if you want to work in Europe they are useful because they will teach you civil law. I don't know anyone who went to Rotterdam so can't comment. 

If you want to go to the UK, I highly recommend Swansea. I went there myself and found it a very worthwhile experience. They helped me a lot through the year and without them I would not have the job I do now. From what I have heard, maritime law is no longer a priority for Soton and the famous lecturers all left a long time ago.

As for UCL, Eggers is a member of the Swansea research institute as well, alongside other important barristers like Simon Rainey. Personally, Melis Ozdel is not as accomplished as the famous Prof Soyer for marine insurance - big character and top notch. He works with some greats like Prof Tettenborn (he is currently the writer for Marsden Collisions at Sea).


I partially agree with you mate, due to the following reasons: 

1). Swansea in my opinion is the best for maritime law as it has the connections with maritime law firms in the City of London, and as you mentioned, students will benefit greatly from this. 

2). Melis Ozdel forte is not Marine Insurance, its International Trade Law and Carriage of Goods by Sea. Its Prof. Peters Macdonald-Eggers Forte instead, this guy knows back to back everything marine insurance related, such a monster that I have huge respect and admiration for, and also for Plymouth's Gaucci. 

3). If someone is not sure on taking a highly niched law profession as being a maritime lawyer is, then I would suggest going for a broaden LLM such as the one that UCL offers in Intl. Commercial Law (I took it) I dont regret a thing, I got to study modules from the maritime stream and commercial stream with e.g.,  Ozdel and Mcdonald-Eggers while studying at the third Uni in the UK, best of both worlds. (cant go wrong with this) (pending grades though and experience!)

4). BTW Swansea and UCL work on maritime and energy projects together, e.g., this 2023 event on shipping, automation and decarbonisation. Huge success! (Two great law schools)

Again I partially agree with you (90%), but most importantly, I hope this helps our lad above! 

[Edited by TheRuleofLaw on Jun 21, 2023]

[quote]If you want to work in the UK, then go to Swansea, without question.&nbsp;<br><br>EU unis are not interesting for UK law firms, unfortunately, but if you want to work in Europe they are useful because they will teach you civil law. I don't know anyone who went to Rotterdam so can't comment.&nbsp;<br><br>If you want to go to the UK, I highly recommend Swansea. I went there myself and found it a very worthwhile experience. They helped me a lot through the year and without them I would not have the job I do now. From what I have heard, maritime law is no longer a priority for Soton and the famous lecturers all left a long time ago.<br><br>As for UCL, Eggers is a member of the Swansea research institute as well, alongside other important barristers like Simon Rainey. Personally, Melis Ozdel is not as accomplished as the famous Prof Soyer for marine insurance - big character and top notch. He works with some greats like Prof Tettenborn (he is currently the writer for Marsden Collisions at Sea). [/quote]<br><br>I partially agree with you mate, due to the following reasons:&nbsp;<br><br>1). Swansea in my opinion is the best for maritime law as it has the connections with maritime law firms in the City of London, and as you mentioned, students will benefit greatly from this.&nbsp;<br><br>2). Melis Ozdel forte is not Marine Insurance, its International Trade Law and Carriage of Goods by Sea. Its Prof. Peters Macdonald-Eggers Forte instead, this guy knows back to back everything marine insurance related, such a monster that I have huge respect and admiration for, and also for Plymouth's Gaucci.&nbsp;<br><br>3). If someone is not sure on taking a highly niched law profession as being a maritime lawyer is, then I would suggest going for a broaden LLM such as the one that UCL offers in Intl. Commercial Law (I took it) I dont regret a thing, I got to study modules from the maritime stream and commercial stream with e.g.,&nbsp; Ozdel and Mcdonald-Eggers while studying at the third Uni in the UK, best of both worlds. (cant go wrong with this) (pending grades though and experience!)<br><br>4). BTW Swansea and UCL work on maritime and energy projects together, e.g., this 2023 event on shipping, automation and decarbonisation. Huge success! (Two great law schools)<br><br>Again I partially agree with you (90%), but most importantly, I hope this helps our lad above!&nbsp;
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kosta

I studied at Swansea a decade ago! Had no problem getting a job mainly due to the fact that the LLM degree is well known in the market/industry. All I can say that in the last decade that brand name got even stronger! Since I started in London I have seen tens of Swansea gradates in Clubs, law firms and insurance sector! So for me easy: Swansea all the way!    

I studied at Swansea a decade ago! Had no problem getting a job mainly due to the fact that the LLM degree is well known in the market/industry. All I can say that in the last decade that brand name got even stronger! Since I started in London I have seen tens of Swansea gradates in Clubs, law firms and insurance sector! So for me easy: Swansea all the way!&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
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