Sorbonne U. International Law School?


diegoc
Hello,

I've found it rather hard to find more precise information on this program. Is there anyone that can share any additional information on this LLM and Sorbonne University International Law School?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Hello,

I've found it rather hard to find more precise information on this program. Is there anyone that can share any additional information on this LLM and Sorbonne University International Law School?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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oro
I am bumping this thread because I have the same question.
What is this program's reputation?
I have not heard much about this program.

Thanks.
I am bumping this thread because I have the same question.
What is this program's reputation?
I have not heard much about this program.

Thanks.
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diegoc
For those interested, this is some of the information not included in the website and brochure that I've gotten so far from exchanging emails with the program's staff.

-The LLM's first student intake is the 2012 class. Students that register for the 2013 term starting in January would comprise the second graduating class.

-As you might have read, the LLM takes place simultaneously in two campuses, INSEAD Singapore and Paris 2. You may apply to either of the two campuses. There is an obligatory exchange lasting one month, during which Paris campus students take classes in Singapore and viceversa.

-Several professors in theParis campus are professors of law in Paris 2.

-In the Singapore campus, classes take place Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday mornings. The rest of the time is occupied by conferences and visits to local law firms/institutions. The class schedule is similar in Paris.

-The 2012 session has students that come from the U.S., Paris, Spain, and Brazil. The age range is 25-35. Some are enrolled in Paris Bar School and working towards becoming Lawyers, others have just recently completed Law School, and the rest have several years of professional experience already.

-Application may only be filed online, and a decision should be notified to the applicant shortly. It's not recommended to apply in August because the university's staff is on summer vacation.

-I've also been told that a new, more extensive brochure on the program should be up in the website soon.

If anyone has anything else, please post!
For those interested, this is some of the information not included in the website and brochure that I've gotten so far from exchanging emails with the program's staff.

-The LLM's first student intake is the 2012 class. Students that register for the 2013 term starting in January would comprise the second graduating class.

-As you might have read, the LLM takes place simultaneously in two campuses, INSEAD Singapore and Paris 2. You may apply to either of the two campuses. There is an obligatory exchange lasting one month, during which Paris campus students take classes in Singapore and viceversa.

-Several professors in theParis campus are professors of law in Paris 2.

-In the Singapore campus, classes take place Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday mornings. The rest of the time is occupied by conferences and visits to local law firms/institutions. The class schedule is similar in Paris.

-The 2012 session has students that come from the U.S., Paris, Spain, and Brazil. The age range is 25-35. Some are enrolled in Paris Bar School and working towards becoming Lawyers, others have just recently completed Law School, and the rest have several years of professional experience already.

-Application may only be filed online, and a decision should be notified to the applicant shortly. It's not recommended to apply in August because the university's staff is on summer vacation.

-I've also been told that a new, more extensive brochure on the program should be up in the website soon.

If anyone has anything else, please post!
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The problem with this course is it is not even in French! I don't see the point in studying at a "French Law School" if it is in English and after all the Ecole de Droit de la Sorbonne is in fact part of Paris I and not Paris II.

John
The problem with this course is it is not even in French! I don't see the point in studying at a "French Law School" if it is in English and after all the Ecole de Droit de la Sorbonne is in fact part of Paris I and not Paris II.

John
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It's not in French. It does not focus on French law. And it is not the Sorbonne that offers it! See my post on the LLM Page, but basically there's only one Sorbonne law school and that one offers an LLM in French and European law and is taught in French.

The LLM in business law is different. First, it's Assas (University of Paris 2) and not the Sorbonne (University of PAris 1) which offers it. It's in English and, well, if its name is not a give-away, its description should reveal that it does not purport to be an immersion in French law.

M.M.
It's not in French. It does not focus on French law. And it is not the Sorbonne that offers it! See my post on the LLM Page, but basically there's only one Sorbonne law school and that one offers an LLM in French and European law and is taught in French.

The LLM in business law is different. First, it's Assas (University of Paris 2) and not the Sorbonne (University of PAris 1) which offers it. It's in English and, well, if its name is not a give-away, its description should reveal that it does not purport to be an immersion in French law.

M.M.
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Hello,

I'm currently an LL.M. student following the LL.M program in European and French Law at the University of Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne.
Some of you correctly noticed the difference between the two LLM programs of Paris 1 and Paris 2. Whereas the first program is entirely given in French, the other LLM of Paris 2 is only given in English.
One of the assets of this LLM program, is that you will benefit from the insight of some of the best teachers of Paris 1 and will finish the course with a solid understanding of the specific caracteristics of the French legal system along with a good insight into European law.

The second asset is the 3-month internship that you'll have to follow to fullfil your degree. Since the Sorbonne Law School has very strong ties with a wide range of public institutions and prestigious law firms. This year my class mates and I are working at some particularly well known organisations and firms. My neighbour here at the Cité Universitaire is at the Autorité de la Concurrence and another of my class mates is at the very prestigious Conseil d'état and will subsequently complete an internship at the Ministère des Affaires Etrangères et Européennes which is a dream internship. I am working in a law firm and have been given a lot of direct responsability and ownership of several files which has been a wonderful experience. Once I have finished this first internship I will be moving to a bigger law firm for more varied experience.

However one of the major advantages of this course which may seem evident but is important to note is that it is taught entirely in French. Since my arrival in France my academic and legal French has progressed hugely thanks in large part to the fact that all of our classes and course materials are in French and the fact that we are encouraged to speak French between ourselves even during break times.

Since we are only 15 it has been a wonderful opportunity to form close bonds with the lecturers which would not have been possible in a larger course. The teachers have all been very responsive to emails and genuinely admire the effort of foreign students who come to France to tackle a new challenge by learning an entirely new legal system. They will also be excellent contacts for the future.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to ask.

Stephanie
Hello,

I'm currently an LL.M. student following the LL.M program in European and French Law at the University of Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne.
Some of you correctly noticed the difference between the two LLM programs of Paris 1 and Paris 2. Whereas the first program is entirely given in French, the other LLM of Paris 2 is only given in English.
One of the assets of this LLM program, is that you will benefit from the insight of some of the best teachers of Paris 1 and will finish the course with a solid understanding of the specific caracteristics of the French legal system along with a good insight into European law.

The second asset is the 3-month internship that you'll have to follow to fullfil your degree. Since the Sorbonne Law School has very strong ties with a wide range of public institutions and prestigious law firms. This year my class mates and I are working at some particularly well known organisations and firms. My neighbour here at the Cité Universitaire is at the Autorité de la Concurrence and another of my class mates is at the very prestigious Conseil d'état and will subsequently complete an internship at the Ministère des Affaires Etrangères et Européennes which is a dream internship. I am working in a law firm and have been given a lot of direct responsability and ownership of several files which has been a wonderful experience. Once I have finished this first internship I will be moving to a bigger law firm for more varied experience.

However one of the major advantages of this course which may seem evident but is important to note is that it is taught entirely in French. Since my arrival in France my academic and legal French has progressed hugely thanks in large part to the fact that all of our classes and course materials are in French and the fact that we are encouraged to speak French between ourselves even during break times.

Since we are only 15 it has been a wonderful opportunity to form close bonds with the lecturers which would not have been possible in a larger course. The teachers have all been very responsive to emails and genuinely admire the effort of foreign students who come to France to tackle a new challenge by learning an entirely new legal system. They will also be excellent contacts for the future.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to ask.

Stephanie
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I just thought that I should specify the website address of the Paris 1 Sorbonne Law School LLM - it is here http://www.univ-paris1.fr/diplomes/llm/

You can download an information brochure in PDF format for more precise information or don't hesitate to post any questions.

John
I just thought that I should specify the website address of the Paris 1 Sorbonne Law School LLM - it is here http://www.univ-paris1.fr/diplomes/llm/

You can download an information brochure in PDF format for more precise information or don't hesitate to post any questions.

John
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pinar_LLM
"Sorbonne International Law School"??? I don't know what it is and it cannot be true because there is only one Sorbonne Law School in Paris and it's Paris 1 and not Paris 2 :) And I really don't understand how they can use the name of a university like that. It must be false advertising.
 
Paris 1 Panthéon - Sorbonne - Ecole de Droit de la Sorbonne has an LLM (LLM de droit français et de droit européen) which is highly famous law school and the programme is well-known all around the world and for years now. If you want to work here in Paris, if you want to sit the bar exam, Paris 1 LLM is the best option. You simply cannot have the bar exam with an LLM in english. 
 
This year my fellow students and I are doing our internships at particularly prestigious public establishments and law firms - complete dream internships and it was thanks to the generous support of the LLM team that we were able to secure these opportunities. For example, the places we are interning at include the competition authority, gide, counsil of state, ministery of economics, dla piper, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a host of other prestigious law firms.

I had an LLM at Paris 1 and now I'm studying for the bar exam and the education that I had help me a lot. My internship was at the competition authority and that was our director of LLM who arranged everything for me. I'll have another internship at the National Patent Office here and believe me, we are working in French on a daily basis and if I had taken a course in English this would simply not be possible, not to mention that learning and studying in French has been incredible for my French vocabulary and fluency. I arrived being unable to read French legal judgments. Now French legal texts are second nature to me. If you have any further questions do not hesitate to ask.

"Sorbonne International Law School"??? I don't know what it is and it cannot be true because there is only one Sorbonne Law School in Paris and it's Paris 1 and not Paris 2 :) And I really don't understand how they can use the name of a university like that. It must be false advertising.
 
Paris 1 Panthéon - Sorbonne - Ecole de Droit de la Sorbonne has an LLM (LLM de droit français et de droit européen) which is highly famous law school and the programme is well-known all around the world and for years now. If you want to work here in Paris, if you want to sit the bar exam, Paris 1 LLM is the best option. You simply cannot have the bar exam with an LLM in english. 
 
This year my fellow students and I are doing our internships at particularly prestigious public establishments and law firms - complete dream internships and it was thanks to the generous support of the LLM team that we were able to secure these opportunities. For example, the places we are interning at include the competition authority, gide, counsil of state, ministery of economics, dla piper, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a host of other prestigious law firms.

I had an LLM at Paris 1 and now I'm studying for the bar exam and the education that I had help me a lot. My internship was at the competition authority and that was our director of LLM who arranged everything for me. I'll have another internship at the National Patent Office here and believe me, we are working in French on a daily basis and if I had taken a course in English this would simply not be possible, not to mention that learning and studying in French has been incredible for my French vocabulary and fluency. I arrived being unable to read French legal judgments. Now French legal texts are second nature to me. If you have any further questions do not hesitate to ask.
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oro
Wasn't there a lawsuit of sorts that concluded that Paris II can use the term 'Sorbonne'?
As someone with an international business background, I do not think that English being the language of instruction is a disadvantage. After all, this program is connected to Singapore and when it comes to Asian countries and international business law, the de facto language is English.
Thus for me, it does make sense.
Wasn't there a lawsuit of sorts that concluded that Paris II can use the term 'Sorbonne'?
As someone with an international business background, I do not think that English being the language of instruction is a disadvantage. After all, this program is connected to Singapore and when it comes to Asian countries and international business law, the de facto language is English.
Thus for me, it does make sense.
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pinar_LLM
It was for the term "Panthéon" i think, not for the "Sorbonne"
It was for the term "Panthéon" i think, not for the "Sorbonne"
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aleD
The LLM en droit français et europeén (delivered by the Sorbonne University) and the LLM in international business law (delivered by the Assas University) are completely different.
The LLM en droit français et europeén phocuses on French and European law while the LLM in international business law is more business oriented.
If you want to obtain a solid knowledge of the French legal system and/or you're evaluating the possibility to move to Paris and work here, you should apply to the LLM offered by the Sorbonne University.
I'm a former student of such LLM (I'm actually making a 3-months internship in a law firm in Paris in the context of the LLM) and I can assure you that the LLM gave me the possibility to improve (a lot) my French level and to get a solid knowledge of French and European law (droit des obligations, droit de la responsabilité civil, droit des sociétés, droit des affaires, droit de l'Union Europeenne).
I decided to apply to the LLM because I wanted to move to Paris and find a job here in a legal firm. Now I know that without the LLM I would have never had the possibility to be hired by a legal firm!!!
Thanks.
The LLM en droit français et europeén (delivered by the Sorbonne University) and the LLM in international business law (delivered by the Assas University) are completely different.
The LLM en droit français et europeén phocuses on French and European law while the LLM in international business law is more business oriented.
If you want to obtain a solid knowledge of the French legal system and/or you're evaluating the possibility to move to Paris and work here, you should apply to the LLM offered by the Sorbonne University.
I'm a former student of such LLM (I'm actually making a 3-months internship in a law firm in Paris in the context of the LLM) and I can assure you that the LLM gave me the possibility to improve (a lot) my French level and to get a solid knowledge of French and European law (droit des obligations, droit de la responsabilité civil, droit des sociétés, droit des affaires, droit de l'Union Europeenne…).
I decided to apply to the LLM because I wanted to move to Paris and find a job here in a legal firm. Now I know that without the LLM I would have never had the possibility to be hired by a legal firm!!!
Thanks.</blockquote>
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aleD
I'm a former student of the LLM en Droit français et européen and I can really recommend it. I had great time, make great friends and learnt a lot of french law. I'm actually making a 3 months internship in one of the biggest and more importants law firm in Paris and I can tell you that all what we learnt during the LLM is helping me to deal with French corporate law. If I could i would do it again!:-)
I'm a former student of the LLM en Droit français et européen and I can really recommend it. I had great time, make great friends and learnt a lot of french law. I'm actually making a 3 months internship in one of the biggest and more importants law firm in Paris and I can tell you that all what we learnt during the LLM is helping me to deal with French corporate law. If I could i would do it again!:-)
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louison
It was for the term "Panthéon" i think, not for the "Sorbonne"

No It was for the term "Sorbonne" !!
<blockquote>It was for the term "Panthéon" i think, not for the "Sorbonne"</blockquote>
No It was for the term "Sorbonne" !!
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pinar_LLM
and why using sorbonne now? the university name is Paris II-Panthéon-Assas. I don't understand. Their use creates confusion.
and why using sorbonne now? the university name is Paris II-Panthéon-Assas. I don't understand. Their use creates confusion.
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louison
and why using sorbonne now? the university name is Paris II-Panthéon-Assas. I don't understand. Their use creates confusion.


Because Paris 2 now make part of the PRES "Sorbonne Universités" with Paris 4 which is The University of Paris Sorbonne. (faculty of arts and literature).

And because the name "Sorbonne" does not belong to Paris 1 Panthéon Sorbonne but to all the Universities of Paris.

For the LLM, just several precisions. You have a lot of LLM in Paris :

- The LLM of Paris 1 in french & european law http://www.univ-paris1.fr/diplomes/llm/

A very good program I think. But be careful !! It won't be enough to work in a famous law firm in France. You don't learn French Law in one year. I've made 6 years of law in France, so I know what I'm talking about.

- The LLM in european Law of Paris 2 http://college-europeen-paris.u-paris2.fr/13549312/1/fiche___pagelibre/&RH=CEP_EN&RF=CEP_LLM-EN

A very good program too. The 2011-2012 students seem to have a strong background. And the professors are quite famous in France (like Thierry Bonneau in Banking & Finance Law)

- the newly created LLM in International Business Law between Assas & the INSEAD
http://about.insead.edu/partnerships/sorbonne_partnership.cfm

I think that this program is at an other level than every other french LLM just because you have the chance to learn Management at the INSEAD which stays, one of the best business school in the world. (It is just my opinion)

An advice to the foreign applicants : make your choice by yourself and be careful with the advertising for LLM's.

My 2 cents.
<blockquote>and why using sorbonne now? the university name is Paris II-Panthéon-Assas. I don't understand. Their use creates confusion. </blockquote>

Because Paris 2 now make part of the PRES "Sorbonne Universités" with Paris 4 which is The University of Paris Sorbonne. (faculty of arts and literature).

And because the name "Sorbonne" does not belong to Paris 1 Panthéon Sorbonne but to all the Universities of Paris.

For the LLM, just several precisions. You have a lot of LLM in Paris :

- The LLM of Paris 1 in french & european law http://www.univ-paris1.fr/diplomes/llm/

A very good program I think. But be careful !! It won't be enough to work in a famous law firm in France. You don't learn French Law in one year. I've made 6 years of law in France, so I know what I'm talking about.

- The LLM in european Law of Paris 2 http://college-europeen-paris.u-paris2.fr/13549312/1/fiche___pagelibre/&RH=CEP_EN&RF=CEP_LLM-EN

A very good program too. The 2011-2012 students seem to have a strong background. And the professors are quite famous in France (like Thierry Bonneau in Banking & Finance Law)

- the newly created LLM in International Business Law between Assas & the INSEAD
http://about.insead.edu/partnerships/sorbonne_partnership.cfm

I think that this program is at an other level than every other french LLM just because you have the chance to learn Management at the INSEAD which stays, one of the best business school in the world. (It is just my opinion)

An advice to the foreign applicants : make your choice by yourself and be careful with the advertising for LLM's.

My 2 cents.
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Thank you for talking about the confusion in the public's mind created by the recent use of the name Sorbonne by Paris II Panthéon-Assas. About Paris I's program, it targets another public.
You may still apply to this LL.M program designed for French speaking law students and practicing lawyers from non-French jurisdictions in order to get a solid foundation in French Law and European Law through courses and conferences from September to June ( including three months of mandatory practical training). The deadline is July 15th, 2012. See
http://llm-droit.univ-paris1.fr
Thank you for talking about the confusion in the public's mind created by the recent use of the name Sorbonne by Paris II Panthéon-Assas. About Paris I's program, it targets another public.
You may still apply to this LL.M program designed for French speaking law students and practicing lawyers from non-French jurisdictions in order to get a solid foundation in French Law and European Law through courses and conferences from September to June ( including three months of mandatory practical training). The deadline is July 15th, 2012. See
http://llm-droit.univ-paris1.fr
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oro
+++++++About Paris I's program, it targets another public.++++

Which public are you referring to? Does anybody know?

Thank you.
+++++++About Paris I's program, it targets another public.++++

Which public are you referring to? Does anybody know?

Thank you.
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Hi all, just to give some information. Sorbonne Assas International Law School is a Singaporean entity, which is not set up by Paris 1 but Paris 2 with INSEAD. In Paris the LLM is organised by Paris 2 in the PRES Sorbonne University which is not Panthéon Sorbonne Paris 1 at all, and not a confusion just a new entity "pôle d'excellence". Thats why INSEAD and the Paris School Bar are part of it as well as Paris 2. In Singapore the courses took place in the INSEAD Campus, you will meet lots of MBA students, and if you are not very young maybe some executive MBA's. The LLM is focused on International Business Law, with practical courses because each courses are done partly by a Professor from Paris 2 and by a Lawyer from the prestigious law firm (of Paris for the Paris Campus like Bird and Bird, Eversheds ... and of Singapore for the Singapore Campus like Rajah&Tann, Latham&Watkins or RHTLaw ..). Of course the courses are in english because the International Business Law is an english practise, even in France (any big law firm could give you a job in this area if you can't understand english)

The LL.M give you also an access to the INSEAD which is not possible with any other LL.M, and having good knowledge in Business is very important right now to all the big law firm ...

If you need any other information : pillant@u-paris2.fr


Thank you
Hi all, just to give some information. Sorbonne Assas International Law School is a Singaporean entity, which is not set up by Paris 1 but Paris 2 with INSEAD. In Paris the LLM is organised by Paris 2 in the PRES Sorbonne University which is not Panthéon Sorbonne Paris 1 at all, and not a confusion just a new entity "pôle d'excellence". Thats why INSEAD and the Paris School Bar are part of it as well as Paris 2. In Singapore the courses took place in the INSEAD Campus, you will meet lots of MBA students, and if you are not very young maybe some executive MBA's. The LLM is focused on International Business Law, with practical courses because each courses are done partly by a Professor from Paris 2 and by a Lawyer from the prestigious law firm (of Paris for the Paris Campus like Bird and Bird, Eversheds ... and of Singapore for the Singapore Campus like Rajah&Tann, Latham&Watkins or RHTLaw ..). Of course the courses are in english because the International Business Law is an english practise, even in France (any big law firm could give you a job in this area if you can't understand english)

The LL.M give you also an access to the INSEAD which is not possible with any other LL.M, and having good knowledge in Business is very important right now to all the big law firm ...

If you need any other information : pillant@u-paris2.fr


Thank you
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Dear all,
I'm currently working for the LL.M International Business Law in the Singapore Campus.
We are delighted that in January of 2013 we will offer a new session of the LLM International Business Law in the INSEAD Campus.
Fell free to contact me you need more details :
rania.soppelsa@sorbonne-assas-ils.org
Thank you
Dear all,
I'm currently working for the LL.M International Business Law in the Singapore Campus.
We are delighted that in January of 2013 we will offer a new session of the LLM International Business Law in the INSEAD Campus.
Fell free to contact me you need more details :
rania.soppelsa@sorbonne-assas-ils.org
Thank you
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abcxyz
I really got confused.

students will be granted with the "LLM" degree within only 5 months? and also they will continue to economy related part of the program at the end of this period, if they make the additional payment, in INSEAD? ındeed, this second part will only give them a "certificate"? Likewise, the second part is totally optional?

Also, either the first or second part of the studies may be pursued in Paris or Singapore and this is optional. Which means both parts may be concluded in Paris?

your help would be appriciated.
I really got confused.

students will be granted with the "LLM" degree within only 5 months? and also they will continue to economy related part of the program at the end of this period, if they make the additional payment, in INSEAD? ındeed, this second part will only give them a "certificate"? Likewise, the second part is totally optional?

Also, either the first or second part of the studies may be pursued in Paris or Singapore and this is optional. Which means both parts may be concluded in Paris?

your help would be appriciated.
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