MASIO _ University of Zurich_not good


sisi

I started this program very positive and full of energy. I still remember how exited I was because the description sounded great,  and I believed that the University of Zurich was a good university. Not long after - schock:

1 - This is not an LLM

2 - The directors are bias towards some students and they just don't care for the rest

3 - Is not a service oriented school and program - the directors and the one coordinator just do not care about what you want,  what to say, and never mind how do you feel

4 - When they take you to excursions they put you in 2 starts hotels with cold water, smelly and crowded.

5 - The professors are good, but if you are in the human rights or finance module - you will not have neither human rights or finance classes.

6 - You will not get a letter of reccomendation - the directors are to busy to see you or do anything for you

7 - You have to look for your own internship - they will do nothing for you.

8 - You have to wait approximately one month to receive your test results

9 - There is lack of communication between the directors and the coordinator

10- Is sad to hear other students that came from Africa and other parts of the world that they just want to home,  that they can't stand being in Zurich and in the MASIO program. 99% of the students - I am being generous becasue it could be 100% of the students are so disatisfied and feel that we just wasted our time and money to be here.

<p>I started this program very positive and full of energy. I still remember how exited I was because the description sounded great,  and I believed that the University of Zurich was a good university. Not long after - schock:</p><p>1 - This is not an LLM</p><p>2 - The directors are bias towards some students and they just don't care for the rest</p><p>3 - Is not a service oriented school and program - the directors and the one coordinator just do not care about what you want,  what to say, and never mind how do you feel</p><p>4 - When they take you to excursions they put you in 2 starts hotels with cold water, smelly and crowded.</p><p>5 - The professors are good, but if you are in the human rights or finance module - you will not have neither human rights or finance classes.</p><p>6 - You will not get a letter of reccomendation - the directors are to busy to see you or do anything for you</p><p>7 - You have to look for your own internship - they will do nothing for you.</p><p>8 - You have to wait approximately one month to receive your test results</p><p>9 - There is lack of communication between the directors and the coordinator</p><p>10- Is sad to hear other students that came from Africa and other parts of the world that they just want to home,  that they can't stand being in Zurich and in the MASIO program. 99% of the students - I am being generous becasue it could be 100% of the students are so disatisfied and feel that we just wasted our time and money to be here.</p>
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ludwig

That bad????

That bad????
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ludwig

Actually I heard it from few...but never believed....
I guess my choice would be Geneva....or should I double check that as well????

Actually I heard it from few...but never believed....
I guess my choice would be Geneva....or should I double check that as well????
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Alain

MASIO actually is a program by University of Geneva (and Zurich).

I'm not familiar with this program, but I guess sisi's criticism may partly have its roots in the way European universities work.

In Europe (e.g. UK, France, Germany) universities don't really take students "by their hands", but rather expect expect them to take care of most things by themselves. Mostly publicly funded, they are not as much service oriented as (private) US schools ("Career center? What's that?").

Most European students are used to bad service and rotten budliings and don't mind that too much, as long as the level of teaching is good.

Of course, this also depends how much fees you pay. CHF 27500 for the MASIO is a lot of money and you should expect that the school really offers 100% premium quality in every aspect.

Anyway, it would really be helpful to know first-hand what other current students think about the program.

MASIO actually is a program by University of Geneva (and Zurich).

I'm not familiar with this program, but I guess sisi's criticism may partly have its roots in the way European universities work.

In Europe (e.g. UK, France, Germany) universities don't really take students "by their hands", but rather expect expect them to take care of most things by themselves. Mostly publicly funded, they are not as much service oriented as (private) US schools ("Career center? What's that?").

Most European students are used to bad service and rotten budliings and don't mind that too much, as long as the level of teaching is good.

Of course, this also depends how much fees you pay. CHF 27500 for the MASIO is a lot of money and you should expect that the school really offers 100% premium quality in every aspect.

Anyway, it would really be helpful to know first-hand what other current students think about the program.
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I studied in Zurich - not the MASIO Program, but the old 5 ys Lizenziat Program- and I can totally understand how you feel.
I found the teaching excellent, the professors were among the best I've had (and I studied in other countries as well) But, as you said, no one wants to give you a recommendation, or at least have an open door for the students, in case they have any issues. Also I found the grading very unfair sometimes and I was also annoyed that it took them months to publish the grades. Exams were quite challenging too and grading is very strict.
As to social life, I met a few International students (there aren't many in law) who felt really left out and ignored by the others, mostly because (most of) the Swiss like to keep to themselves and generally don't socialize that much. I'm not saying that all Swiss law students are like that and I'm sorry if anyone feels attacked, but this is just my impression. I did find a circle of nice friends, but compared to other Universities I attended Zurich was the place I least enjoyed, b/c of the rather frustrating student life. So I'd say, if you have the choice between Zurich and let's say Geneva, I would pick the second, without no doubt.
If you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask me.

I studied in Zurich - not the MASIO Program, but the old 5 ys Lizenziat Program- and I can totally understand how you feel.
I found the teaching excellent, the professors were among the best I've had (and I studied in other countries as well) But, as you said, no one wants to give you a recommendation, or at least have an open door for the students, in case they have any issues. Also I found the grading very unfair sometimes and I was also annoyed that it took them months to publish the grades. Exams were quite challenging too and grading is very strict.
As to social life, I met a few International students (there aren't many in law) who felt really left out and ignored by the others, mostly because (most of) the Swiss like to keep to themselves and generally don't socialize that much. I'm not saying that all Swiss law students are like that and I'm sorry if anyone feels attacked, but this is just my impression. I did find a circle of nice friends, but compared to other Universities I attended Zurich was the place I least enjoyed, b/c of the rather frustrating student life. So I'd say, if you have the choice between Zurich and let's say Geneva, I would pick the second, without no doubt.
If you have more questions, don't hesitate to ask me.
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