Hey everybody!
I am starting the ll.m. program human rights and humanitarian law at Europe-University Viadrina in Frankfurt/Oder this year. I got accepted even though I did my Bachelor in Arabisitk and law only as my second subject. I dont wont to work as a lawyer later, but I want to be educated in international law, especially human rights, to work for governmental or non-governmental organisations later.
Shortly before the program starts I realised that the course only takes part in 1,5 months of the semester and that most people work the rest of the year. It does not count as a normal master, only as a advanced training or further education. Now I am confused if the master gives me that education I expected. Does anyone has experiences with doing this master and trying to apply for a job with it later? Or does anyone know if the ll.m., especially this one, is accepted in the international jobs? Did anyone hear something about the ll.m. human rights in Frankfurt and if students are satisfied with the results of it?

thanks a lot,
best wishes,
Faye

Hi Faye

I applied for this program too, now waiting for their letter. It is a full time program so the information that you have is not correct. The course takes 3 month of each semester. It is a normal masters program. You will get LLM degree upon completion of the program. I hope I also get admission and start my masters there in October. Congratultions to you. Hope you like it. Good luck.

Hey,
thanks for your answer. I am sorry, but it is not a full time master. I didnt get that information from the website either. The program takes place in 6 weeks per semester - at least this is the time where you have to be in Frankfurt. The last 4 subjects of each semester are to be finished with essays, you can write these from all over the world. It is concipated like this for people who want to work and study. So they stop working for 6 weeks, do the study and then return to work after that.
I started now, it still seems to be a good program, so I wish you good luck for your application. Maybe we see us next semester!
Faye

Dear friend,

Yes u r right, Ive just learnt that this is not a full time masters program, it is considered as full time but very short and intence one. but I hope it is still effective. I got my admission and will be there in October too :)

Thanks for information.

Best,

Hey!
This is great! I am looking forward to see you there. The first semester was really good, and even though it is an intensive but shorttime master I am really happy that I started this program. It is really good, with great kollegues and you will have a nice time for sure. We will be only around 30 students, so we will see us for sure in October.
Best wishes and see you soon! :)

I'm looking forward to see you too. I already know some students studying there. You probably studied together withthem- Rashid and Mina. Im sure it will be a good program and Im sure I wont regret :) see you in october dear friend.

Best,

Hey!
This is great! I am looking forward to see you there. The first semester was really good, and even though it is an intensive but shorttime master I am really happy that I started this program. It is really good, with great kollegues and you will have a nice time for sure. We will be only around 30 students, so we will see us for sure in October.
Best wishes and see you soon! :)

oh, yeah. they already told me that there is a new azerbaijani coming.... :)
see you there!!!

I will also be coming in October I am wondering if I join in October 2011 when will the course come to an end once we begin then please also advise whether i need to resign from my job.Lastly how much should i budget for my accomodation and living costs

For all these informations it is better to ask the people working for the programm. I think lessons will end on 9th december, after that you dont have to be in Frankfurt anymore. But you have to write essays maybe till the end of February - but I am not sure about the times. For living costs in Frankfurt it is pretty much the same - ask the staff.. They have a deal with the student accomodations, so students of this programm can rent an appartment for 6 weeks. I think it is about 200 rent per month. But please, I dont want to tell anything wrong... ask the staff, they are really helpful and normally they answer pretty fast :)
good luck and see you

Thank you but i think there is so much information left hanging and am thinking of not taking the program.I have written emails and these people are quite slow in replying.The website ought to provide for the exact time dates saying program takes 1.5year is not good enough. Of all the program this is the only LLM that is mean with information.

hello,
I have got acceptance letter, but i am in a great confuson. Is it a real llm programme? What kind of programme is this, a distance learning or presence learning? I mean, how they issue final certificate? Is it a worthfull programme to get a job?
thank you

Hey,
I cannot tell you if it is worthful to get a job later. But it is a really good program as I think. You will be there for 6 weeks every semester, after that you have to write essays or do an internship. But it is still enough to do. Especially as most people are having a job and already more than enough to do. As it started in 2009 for the first time there are not to many people who finished this program yet, I think. But I know that it is possible to ask the office for contact details of students who finished it and to ask them. Again, the women working in the office is a really young one who did this program as well. She normally answers pretty fast and has good informations. You can ask her whatever you want, I did the same because I had all your worries as well. Probably nobody can tell you the quote of chance you have with this program, but how many people can give a quote about other programs? The teachers (at least most of them) are great, the atmosphere is great and you will definitly learn what you expect to learn. What happens next is more about you than about the university.
The problem with the llm I had was something about this certificate and its acknowledgement in germany. Are you from germany? Anyway, it is a real llm program.
Best wishes,
Faye

hello,
Thank you for prompt response, my questions is regarding
the type of programme. Officially, is it a distance learning ?
I am not German but living in Germany for 8 years and I earned my Bachelors degree in Law from my home country Nepal.
thank you

Hi Faye

I applied for this program too, now waiting for their letter. It is a full time program so the information that you have is not correct. The course takes 3 month of each semester. It is a normal masters program. You will get LLM degree upon completion of the program. I hope I also get admission and start my masters there in October. Congratultions to you. Hope you like it. Good luck.

Hey,
thanks for your answer, but you are already one year late.. I am doing this master now - I am in my second semester. And believe me - you only have to be in Frankfurt for 6 weeks. You have 2 weeks study time, two weeks exam and then again two weeks study time. After that you will write essays, till the end of this semester. So all in all you are busy for 3 months, like in a "normal" programm. But it was designed to offer people who are working and not able to get a longer time off the possibility to do a master course besides their job.

I strongly advise people not to attend this LLM programme. Most of the advert they put on the web site is a misleading. I am from Nepal, they told me that i can stay in Germany after one month study but the fact to the matter is that I can only stay in Germany for the period that I am staying in Germany. So there were a lot of informations that they did not tell me before I cme to Germany. One has to question the credibility of the Programme and the value of the education they provided. As far as I am concerned, many students are dissapointed with the way how the programme was handled. Moreover, the Professors are not keen to respond their emails. All in all, I regreat coming all the way from Nepal and wasted my savings. So BECAREFUL!!!!!

Thank you but i think there is so much information left hanging and am thinking of not taking the program.I have written emails and these people are quite slow in replying.The website ought to provide for the exact time dates saying program takes 1.5year is not good enough. Of all the program this is the only LLM that is mean with information.

Did everyone who is not an EU citizen have the same issues as DecentKing mentioned regarding permission to stay? I know that citizens of certain countries such as the US and Canada do not need a visa to enter. They just need a resident permit to reside longer than 3 months. Did anyone actually stay in Germany outside of term time? Also, does anyone know the admission standards? I was asked by one of my references, but I couldn't give a straightforward answer.

Dear SC82,

what I can advise you is just to becareful. Their web site looks so attractive...It is too good to be true. It is catch 22. What makes me so angry was that, they don't even keen to respond people's queries. No wonder why they located near the Polish border:)

is LLM in Europa university Viadrina frankfurt good.
Pls I applied to the School. How is it. Thanks