LLM vs. NY Bar


fg

At the risk of sounding "simplistic" I will add another point. If you want to work there, work as hard as you can to get a position and to stay there.


No, no, adavid. You have missed my point. My friends did work hard and have been at their law firms for a year in NYC already but the H1B lottery system means that they have to leave the country no matter how much their employer wants them to stay.
So my point is that working hard, having the right attitude will only take you so far. People should know the ridiculous visa situation when they aim to get jobs in NYC. Recently, under the Bush administration, it has become increasingly difficult to work here - the visa cap for H1Bs is reduced from almost 200,000 to 60,000 and those 60,000 are decided by lottery.
I don't expect you to understand where I am coming from as this information regarding the H1B visas only came out a few weeks ago and obviously isn't relevant to you since you have an American spouse. Perhaps marrying an American is a better option than working hard too....lol
I know it would seem that the visa talk is somewhat tangential but it has been awful for me to see my friends who have worked hard, got into Ivie League schools, and accepted by employers in NYC only to be kicked out of the country because of a system based on luck. The assumption in your post that they can't work in NYC because they haven't worked hard enough or thought positively enough just isn't correct.
So unfortunately, when it comes to working in NYC, education and visas are very much interlinked. No matter how hard you work at your education, you are stuffed if your name doesn't get pulled out of the H1B visa hat (unless, of course, you marry an American... (which some might say is also hard work - joke))

<blockquote>At the risk of sounding "simplistic" I will add another point. If you want to work there, work as hard as you can to get a position and to stay there. </blockquote>

No, no, adavid. You have missed my point. My friends did work hard and have been at their law firms for a year in NYC already but the H1B lottery system means that they have to leave the country no matter how much their employer wants them to stay.
So my point is that working hard, having the right attitude will only take you so far. People should know the ridiculous visa situation when they aim to get jobs in NYC. Recently, under the Bush administration, it has become increasingly difficult to work here - the visa cap for H1Bs is reduced from almost 200,000 to 60,000 and those 60,000 are decided by lottery.
I don't expect you to understand where I am coming from as this information regarding the H1B visas only came out a few weeks ago and obviously isn't relevant to you since you have an American spouse. Perhaps marrying an American is a better option than working hard too....lol
I know it would seem that the visa talk is somewhat tangential but it has been awful for me to see my friends who have worked hard, got into Ivie League schools, and accepted by employers in NYC only to be kicked out of the country because of a system based on luck. The assumption in your post that they can't work in NYC because they haven't worked hard enough or thought positively enough just isn't correct.
So unfortunately, when it comes to working in NYC, education and visas are very much interlinked. No matter how hard you work at your education, you are stuffed if your name doesn't get pulled out of the H1B visa hat (unless, of course, you marry an American... (which some might say is also hard work - joke))
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fg

also ,adavid, why do you think our fair country received a "free trade" agreement with the US. The timing was a bit too coincidental with our support of the Iraq war don't you think?
It is a common understanding back in Oz that it was because of the war.

also ,adavid, why do you think our fair country received a "free trade" agreement with the US. The timing was a bit too coincidental with our support of the Iraq war don't you think?
It is a common understanding back in Oz that it was because of the war.
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gkh_2005

I am aware that there is an additional quota of 20,000 Visas exclusively for Master degree holders. Foreign Attorneys with an LL.M., Degree from U.S. can qualify under this program.

My employer has applied for my H1-B under this quota and I think that I just made it under this quota.

I am aware that there is an additional quota of 20,000 Visas exclusively for Master degree holders. Foreign Attorneys with an LL.M., Degree from U.S. can qualify under this program.

My employer has applied for my H1-B under this quota and I think that I just made it under this quota.
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fg

That is good news that there are extra visas for LLMs. My friend at NYU just got his LLM and is going to Cravath but still missed out though since it is still done by lottery (even for foreign lawyers with LLMs).

That is good news that there are extra visas for LLMs. My friend at NYU just got his LLM and is going to Cravath but still missed out though since it is still done by lottery (even for foreign lawyers with LLMs).
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