Hi,

I just wanted to clarify, when you enter the US to do your LLM with the intention of perhaps finding a job there. When contacting law firms what is the actual title of the job you are applying for?

Is it entry-level associate? And if it is this, is this conditional on passing the bar?

Also, if one has passed the bar and then applies for a job then what position would they be seeking?

This might sound like a dumb question, but any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

"Dream Catcher" that is what you are applying for and that is what you should call it in your (waste of time) application.

In these market conditions, anyone going to the U.S. to do an LL.M. primarily to or with the main intention of getting a job, is just day-dreaming.

What makes you think that with all the unemployed US-trained and licensed attorneys they are going to hire a foreing educated LL.M. holder? Why would they bother going through the absolute hazzle and expense of going through the immigration process, etc. etc.??? When there is some much domestic supply?

This is the recurrent theme on this board: How do I get a job in the US with my LL.M? ; Will an LL.M get me a job in the US, etc. etc. etc.

Reality: unless you are an extremely well-qualified attorney already in your home country, and that also in a field in high-demand in the US, you will NOT get a job in the US, not now, not in the foreseeable future.

I won't even talk about those who do not match the extremely qualified, experienced, high-demand area criteria, that is, those who aren't even qualified as attorneys/solicitors/barristers in their home countries. Those of you have NO chance at all, not even in a million years!

Bottom line, you want to live and work in the US, then 99.98% of the time you will need a JD from a reputable US law school. PERIOD.

I don't mean to be harsh, but it is time to wake-up and "smell the coffee" people!

Slave while you may be right your attitude is awful. Never have i read such condescending remarks. would you be so grateful to explain where you are getting your information from. while we all know about the current economic situation i have it from attorneys in the USA (on both coasts and elsewhere) that while the siutation is very bad and worsening there are still oppurtunities for anyone. there is no doubt that LLMs must strive to get over the initial hurdle of not being a JD but this is still possible for those who work at it in interviews resumes networking their LLM grades and those who have the right mindset not those like you who have such a defeatist outlook. with such an attitude YOU will never succeed. we all know its gona be hard but nothing in life worth getting is easy to get. grow up and stop being so condecending. to other LLMs if you want the job in the US go for it just be prepared to work very hard at getting it

it will be a challegne but it pays off for those who put in the effort.

AMEN!

Well said Irishlad.

I would say think about doing internship while still at school or
, think about working for law firms that have a branch in any other country and welcome the idea of working for a US law firm in Europe or Asia. Like that, you will be a potential beneficiary of L1 visa which is kinda similar to H1 relatively after 3 years.
Paralegal? Well it wont get you anywhere in my opinion, first, job experience is required for most vacancies -second you get stuck in doing something that hardly pays your tuition fee after 20 years ( and why in the first place you did not go to do a 6 months incentive paralegal courses for less tuition fee?) Loads of work and basically your law degree from your country and LLM means sh*t!
And.. work on your strength, keep trying, be patience and efficient .US Is a Big country!

And a word of wisdom for you Slave.. I personally know a lot of JDs struggling to get a job today, and I know 2 out of 6 LLMs from the previous year who have gotten jobs, and I for one have gotten a secure internship in a big law firm in Boston already . I can see them hire me before the year ends... so although it is good to be realistic but it is better to be without prejudice. There are many employers out there who prefer to hire a well attitude, broad mind, sharp and hard working LLM than an arrogant, snob, average JD