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RGINDIA

UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!

UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!
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Wavshrdr

UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!


Since Berkeley is well ranked in this area but not top, I would say take the money and run! They are both excellent schools. There is a HUGE cultural difference between the 2 schools as well.

So if you are getting a full tuition scholarship, or even anything over 20k, then I would definitely go with UCLA over Berkeley. Both are very well regarded school in and outside of the US. For the program, nobody is really going to care too much between say a program 4th and 8th ranked. If it was between 1st and 4th, then I might go for ranking but if not #1 or 2, less of an issue.

<blockquote>UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!</blockquote>

Since Berkeley is well ranked in this area but not top, I would say take the money and run! They are both excellent schools. There is a HUGE cultural difference between the 2 schools as well.

So if you are getting a full tuition scholarship, or even anything over 20k, then I would definitely go with UCLA over Berkeley. Both are very well regarded school in and outside of the US. For the program, nobody is really going to care too much between say a program 4th and 8th ranked. If it was between 1st and 4th, then I might go for ranking but if not #1 or 2, less of an issue.
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Wavshrdr

Hello guys,
are these posts for undergraduate? or for graduate who intend to do a LLM?
Thanks.


Grads for LLM but it could give you an idea of about undergrad programs.

<blockquote>Hello guys,
are these posts for undergraduate? or for graduate who intend to do a LLM?
Thanks.</blockquote>

Grads for LLM but it could give you an idea of about undergrad programs.
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bzllaw

UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!


If money is not an issue for you (at all) then go to the best ranked school (Berkeley), who knows this might make a difference for you some day (after all, we are lawyers and we like our rankings). If the money matters, then I would say UCLA (which is also a great school).

<blockquote>UCLA with a Dean Scholarship of the maximum amount or Berkeley without any aid? I am into Human Rights. Please help! Thank you!</blockquote>

If money is not an issue for you (at all) then go to the best ranked school (Berkeley), who knows this might make a difference for you some day (after all, we are lawyers and we like our rankings). If the money matters, then I would say UCLA (which is also a great school).
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Wavshrdr

Keep in mind rankings can, and do, change. Past performance is not always indicative of future performance. Unlike most people just graduating from law school, most of us have significant experience in our legal careers already so law school ranking is not as important as it might be to others.

The odds of a LLM student getting a job in the US is incredibly difficult even if you go to Stanford, Yale or Harvard.

If you are trying to get a job in California, almost no difference between any of the school in California unless you go to Stanford. Even lowly UC Davis (so to speak) will give you better chances of getting a job in California than going to U of Michigan. Very few school have deep national reach in the US. Pretty much the top 5 or 6 and that is it. Otherwise they are just "super-regional" players.

Keep in mind rankings can, and do, change. Past performance is not always indicative of future performance. Unlike most people just graduating from law school, most of us have significant experience in our legal careers already so law school ranking is not as important as it might be to others.

The odds of a LLM student getting a job in the US is incredibly difficult even if you go to Stanford, Yale or Harvard.

If you are trying to get a job in California, almost no difference between any of the school in California unless you go to Stanford. Even lowly UC Davis (so to speak) will give you better chances of getting a job in California than going to U of Michigan. Very few school have deep national reach in the US. Pretty much the top 5 or 6 and that is it. Otherwise they are just "super-regional" players.
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RGINDIA

Thank you for your reply.

I don't plan to work in the US. I plan to come back to India and litigate. So rankings do not matter much to me unless the difference is substantial.

The aid is above 20k.

I was wondering how's the faculty at UCLA for HR. Does anyone have any idea? Also wavshrdr, you said there is a huge cultural difference. Could you please elaborate?

Thank you for your reply.

I don't plan to work in the US. I plan to come back to India and litigate. So rankings do not matter much to me unless the difference is substantial.

The aid is above 20k.

I was wondering how's the faculty at UCLA for HR. Does anyone have any idea? Also wavshrdr, you said there is a huge cultural difference. Could you please elaborate?
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Wavshrdr

UCLA is 8th ranked in that area and Berkeley is 4th from the limited research I did. I would say take the money for sure.

Here is where I looked. It shows UCLA & Berkeley.

http://law-schools.startclass.com/d/c/Human-Rights

Ignore the info in the smart rank as that is how they rank as a school.

UCLA is 8th ranked in that area and Berkeley is 4th from the limited research I did. I would say take the money for sure.

Here is where I looked. It shows UCLA & Berkeley.

http://law-schools.startclass.com/d/c/Human-Rights

Ignore the info in the smart rank as that is how they rank as a school.
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llm2015eua

Wavshrdr

which university is better to get a job after the LL.M? I know that it is very hard, but I just want a quick answer! tks!

Wavshrdr

which university is better to get a job after the LL.M? I know that it is very hard, but I just want a quick answer! tks!
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Wavshrdr

Very difficult question to give a direct answer but I'll try. I would say focus on an area of the US you are interested in and find a well ranked school there. For example in Chicago a lot of good schools that are in the area can have a good reputation in that legal market. So you could go to top-ranked schools (top 20 such NW, Chicago, U of Michigan) or even a lower ranked school such as Indiana University Bloomington (IU). IU is a good feeder school for this region but without a lot of national reach yet it might be easier to get a job in Chicago than going to a higher ranked school OUTSIDE of the region.

Same analogy applies to California. I would guess (an educated one looking at data but not analyzing it in detail) that going to any top 50 school based in California is more likely to get you a job in California than going to a school like Cornell which is a top ranked school.

Texas is another example. Unless you go to one of the top 5 schools in the US then you are better off going to a Texas school such as UT Austin (very good school) or maybe even U of Houston.

Where this all becomes more complicated and in some ways easier, is when it comes to how well regarded a program is. From what I can see the ONLY LLM program that makes a real difference nationally is Tax and US Tax specifically. Really only 2 school consistently matter there; NYU or GT. FSU sometimes matters but more theoretical than practical.

So I would say go to the best school in the region you want to try and work. Keep in mind the California bar is the most difficult but at the same time NY has so many foreigners that there will be a lot more competition as well.

I am currently torn between Stanford, NYU and possibly Michigan if they give me a very good scholarship. Regardless it will be VERY difficult to find work in the US even going to one of these schools and based on how the system works in the US. I am cautiously optimistic about my odds but I understand how difficult it is as well.

Very difficult question to give a direct answer but I'll try. I would say focus on an area of the US you are interested in and find a well ranked school there. For example in Chicago a lot of good schools that are in the area can have a good reputation in that legal market. So you could go to top-ranked schools (top 20 such NW, Chicago, U of Michigan) or even a lower ranked school such as Indiana University Bloomington (IU). IU is a good feeder school for this region but without a lot of national reach yet it might be easier to get a job in Chicago than going to a higher ranked school OUTSIDE of the region.

Same analogy applies to California. I would guess (an educated one looking at data but not analyzing it in detail) that going to any top 50 school based in California is more likely to get you a job in California than going to a school like Cornell which is a top ranked school.

Texas is another example. Unless you go to one of the top 5 schools in the US then you are better off going to a Texas school such as UT Austin (very good school) or maybe even U of Houston.

Where this all becomes more complicated and in some ways easier, is when it comes to how well regarded a program is. From what I can see the ONLY LLM program that makes a real difference nationally is Tax and US Tax specifically. Really only 2 school consistently matter there; NYU or GT. FSU sometimes matters but more theoretical than practical.

So I would say go to the best school in the region you want to try and work. Keep in mind the California bar is the most difficult but at the same time NY has so many foreigners that there will be a lot more competition as well.

I am currently torn between Stanford, NYU and possibly Michigan if they give me a very good scholarship. Regardless it will be VERY difficult to find work in the US even going to one of these schools and based on how the system works in the US. I am cautiously optimistic about my odds but I understand how difficult it is as well.


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lawnor

Hi everyone! Is this a thread for the academic year of fall 2015-spring 2016 (in that case the title is a bit misleading)?

Hi everyone! Is this a thread for the academic year of fall 2015-spring 2016 (in that case the title is a bit misleading)?
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Wavshrdr

Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.

Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.
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lawnor

Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.


Thanks, the title of this thread should be changed in that case, don't you think? At first glance I thought this thread was about some type of early review for the academic year of 2016-17 :)

I'm applying as an exchange student for the fall semester, so I will probably meet some of you, if I get accepted. Good luck everyone!

<blockquote>Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.</blockquote>

Thanks, the title of this thread should be changed in that case, don't you think? At first glance I thought this thread was about some type of early review for the academic year of 2016-17 :)

I'm applying as an exchange student for the fall semester, so I will probably meet some of you, if I get accepted. Good luck everyone!
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NapoleonH

Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.


Thanks, the title of this thread should be changed in that case, don't you think? At first glance I thought this thread was about some type of early review for the academic year of 2016-17 :)

Actually, the year related to the class beginning next fall is "Class of 2016 LL.M program".

For example, current LL.M students are part of the "Class of 2015 LL.M program".

But yeah it can be misleading

<blockquote><blockquote>Current topics are for people starting in the fall of this year and finishing spring 2016.</blockquote>

Thanks, the title of this thread should be changed in that case, don't you think? At first glance I thought this thread was about some type of early review for the academic year of 2016-17 :)

Actually, the year related to the class beginning next fall is "Class of 2016 LL.M program".

For example, current LL.M students are part of the "Class of 2015 LL.M program".

But yeah it can be misleading
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SSuzi

Hi,

Is anyone else still waiting for an answer?

I got admittet to Boston University and my deadline is 4.April, but my first choice would be UCLA.

Hi,

Is anyone else still waiting for an answer?

I got admittet to Boston University and my deadline is 4.April, but my first choice would be UCLA.

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bzllaw

I am waiting as well, and I got until April 3 to accept offers from other schools. Hopefully the answers will come this week.

I am waiting as well, and I got until April 3 to accept offers from other schools. Hopefully the answers will come this week.
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Ian90

Admitted :) I intend to enroll. Looking forward to see some of you at UCLA this fall!

Admitted :) I intend to enroll. Looking forward to see some of you at UCLA this fall!
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Alc1

Which is the deadline to accept their (UCLA's) offer?

Which is the deadline to accept their (UCLA's) offer?
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Brtw

Did anyone here alrealdy decided to go to UCLA?
I did't find a facebook group to join. I want to know who is going, where and when are the people from other countries cooming, and also I'd like find a new roommate... Anny sugestions?

Did anyone here alrealdy decided to go to UCLA?
I did't find a facebook group to join. I want to know who is going, where and when are the people from other countries cooming, and also I'd like find a new roommate... Anny sugestions?
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SSuzi

Hey,

I have been put in the waiting list for the llm in international law. Does anyone know how high the chances are for being admitted?

Hey,

I have been put in the waiting list for the llm in international law. Does anyone know how high the chances are for being admitted?
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acm

Hey,

I have been put in the waiting list for the llm in international law. Does anyone know how high the chances are for being admitted?


Hey, how do you know you're in the waiting list? Where did you find it? I've just applied 2 days before the deadline, that's why i am still waiting for an answer.

<blockquote>Hey,

I have been put in the waiting list for the llm in international law. Does anyone know how high the chances are for being admitted?</blockquote>

Hey, how do you know you're in the waiting list? Where did you find it? I've just applied 2 days before the deadline, that's why i am still waiting for an answer.
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