U.S. Bachelors + UK GDL - LLM in the US?


gza
Hello all,
I've done some research on the board, but haven't been able to find what I am looking for...
I am a U.S. citizen that graduated with a B.A. from an American university and I am currently studying the GDL at BPP Law School in London.
My questions are:
-After I complete the GDL am I eligible to apply for an LLM in the States? (I read in a post from a few years ago that Columbia allows this, is this still true?)
-I have the option of converting my GDL to an LLB - is this necessary to apply to a US LLM Programme / worth it?
-Is it true that a GDL -> LLB Conversion does not qualify as a "real" LLB, therefore creating problems to apply to US LLM/JD Programmes?
-I am also considering taking the LPC. Would this be beneficial in any way if I want to practice in the US?
While it interests me to work and do a training contract in England for a while, ultimately I want to live in the United States.
If anyone has any insight, advice or could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[Edited by gza on Apr 26, 2017]

Hello all,
I've done some research on the board, but haven't been able to find what I am looking for...
I am a U.S. citizen that graduated with a B.A. from an American university and I am currently studying the GDL at BPP Law School in London.
My questions are:
-After I complete the GDL am I eligible to apply for an LLM in the States? (I read in a post from a few years ago that Columbia allows this, is this still true?)
-I have the option of converting my GDL to an LLB - is this necessary to apply to a US LLM Programme / worth it?
-Is it true that a GDL -> LLB Conversion does not qualify as a "real" LLB, therefore creating problems to apply to US LLM/JD Programmes?
-I am also considering taking the LPC. Would this be beneficial in any way if I want to practice in the US?
While it interests me to work and do a training contract in England for a while, ultimately I want to live in the United States.
If anyone has any insight, advice or could point me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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gza
Anyone??
Anyone??
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Frankly, I'm not sure why you would want to do this, except to avoid the cost of a three year JD. If you truly want to practice in the USA, you should get a JD first and avoid all these other nontraditional permutations.
Frankly, I'm not sure why you would want to do this, except to avoid the cost of a three year JD. If you truly want to practice in the USA, you should get a JD first and avoid all these other nontraditional permutations.

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HN
Hey, I'm currently studying overseas (final year towards qualification) and am an American. I also did my BA in the US. I plan on returning to the US and studying for an LLM before sitting the NY or Cali bar. While I am not completely sure about the GDL, I believe it is not exactly equivalent to a US first degree in law. An LLB certainly would meet the general requirement for an LLM on the other hand. If you are set on practicing in the US, I think maybe it's good to go for a JD after the GDL in the US, as mentioned by others. If you want to take a shot at applying to the LLM with the GDL feel free to e-mail some schools you are interested in before applying.

Do not be discouraged by others who say to study in the US is a must. A lot of big firms look for international experience and/or qualifications and you may find yourself unique over the typical US grads pumping out every year. You may go for an LLB in London and then the LLM in the US if you are interested in qualifying in both jurisdictions and are uncertain about where you want to end up. In a bad economy, there's no harm in being flexible in where you can work :)

Feel free to msg me if you have any questions!
Hey, I'm currently studying overseas (final year towards qualification) and am an American. I also did my BA in the US. I plan on returning to the US and studying for an LLM before sitting the NY or Cali bar. While I am not completely sure about the GDL, I believe it is not exactly equivalent to a US first degree in law. An LLB certainly would meet the general requirement for an LLM on the other hand. If you are set on practicing in the US, I think maybe it's good to go for a JD after the GDL in the US, as mentioned by others. If you want to take a shot at applying to the LLM with the GDL feel free to e-mail some schools you are interested in before applying.

Do not be discouraged by others who say to study in the US is a must. A lot of big firms look for international experience and/or qualifications and you may find yourself unique over the typical US grads pumping out every year. You may go for an LLB in London and then the LLM in the US if you are interested in qualifying in both jurisdictions and are uncertain about where you want to end up. In a bad economy, there's no harm in being flexible in where you can work :)

Feel free to msg me if you have any questions!
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Michastar
Hi,

I know your post is a bit old, but as i am in the same case as you and am also about to start the GDL in BPP University. I was wondering if you managed to get into an american LLM program right after achieving the GDL.

If you could share your experience that would be really helpful.
Thank you so much,
Hi,

I know your post is a bit old, but as i am in the same case as you and am also about to start the GDL in BPP University. I was wondering if you managed to get into an american LLM program right after achieving the GDL.

If you could share your experience that would be really helpful.
Thank you so much,
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JHF
I'm planning on doing the same. I'm starting the GDL at BPP in October, and hopefully with be applying for LLM programmes during the academic year. I have been told by the Admissions departments of a number schools in California, that I can apply.

Where are you looking to apply?
I'm planning on doing the same. I'm starting the GDL at BPP in October, and hopefully with be applying for LLM programmes during the academic year. I have been told by the Admissions departments of a number schools in California, that I can apply.

Where are you looking to apply?
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imnc
Hi,

I know your post is a bit old, but as i am in the same case as you and am also about to start the GDL in BPP University. I was wondering if you managed to get into an american LLM program right after achieving the GDL.

If you could share your experience that would be really helpful.
Thank you so much,


LLM acceptance is possible just after the GDL. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs. In the absence of the waiver a GDL will nonetheless have to take the NY bar mandated courses in the LLM term which can reduce by a third the number of points available for courses.
<blockquote>Hi,

I know your post is a bit old, but as i am in the same case as you and am also about to start the GDL in BPP University. I was wondering if you managed to get into an american LLM program right after achieving the GDL.

If you could share your experience that would be really helpful.
Thank you so much,</blockquote>

LLM acceptance is possible just after the GDL. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs. In the absence of the waiver a GDL will nonetheless have to take the NY bar mandated courses in the LLM term which can reduce by a third the number of points available for courses.
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leungk36
Hi there,

Does anyone know if GDL followed by U.S LLM would qualify you for the CAL bar?
Hi there,

Does anyone know if GDL followed by U.S LLM would qualify you for the CAL bar?
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Michastar
LLM acceptance is possible just after the GDL. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs. In the absence of the waiver a GDL will nonetheless have to take the NY bar mandated courses in the LLM term which can reduce by a third the number of points available for courses.

Hi
First of all thank you for your reply.
Could you please tell me of some names of institutions that accept you within their LLM after you achieved a GDL.
And sorry but what do you mean by "
L. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs."

Thanks a lot for your answer.
Have a great day.
Maya


LLM acceptance is possible just after the GDL. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs. In the absence of the waiver a GDL will nonetheless have to take the NY bar mandated courses in the LLM term which can reduce by a third the number of points available for courses. </blockquote>

Hi
First of all thank you for your reply.
Could you please tell me of some names of institutions that accept you within their LLM after you achieved a GDL.
And sorry but what do you mean by "
L. What is not certain is whether the waiver to british lawyers from the LLM requirement (for taking the NY bar) applies in certain accelerated GDL programs."

Thanks a lot for your answer.
Have a great day.
Maya
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Michastar
I'm planning on doing the same. I'm starting the GDL at BPP in October, and hopefully with be applying for LLM programmes during the academic year. I have been told by the Admissions departments of a number schools in California, that I can apply.

Where are you looking to apply?


Hi there,

What a small world!
I am starting the GDL at BPP in September as well.:) and will soon fly to London to settle there.
Did you get names of any institutions that allow you to get in their LLM after the GDL?
I am still contacting a lot of institutions but they don't seem to be familiar with the " GDL".

Take care,
:)
<blockquote>I'm planning on doing the same. I'm starting the GDL at BPP in October, and hopefully with be applying for LLM programmes during the academic year. I have been told by the Admissions departments of a number schools in California, that I can apply.

Where are you looking to apply?</blockquote>

Hi there,

What a small world!
I am starting the GDL at BPP in September as well.:) and will soon fly to London to settle there.
Did you get names of any institutions that allow you to get in their LLM after the GDL?
I am still contacting a lot of institutions but they don't seem to be familiar with the " GDL".

Take care,
:)

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Hello everyone!

Another American doing the GDL here. If you are not talking about the top LLM programs, many allow not lawyers into the programs in the US. Compliance and tax professionals are among the most likely to be non-lawyers in an LLM program. I don't think that many people at all in the US are familiar with a GDL.

It is my opinion but as others stated above, if your true intention is to work in the US, the best method is to become a solicitor in UK and Wales and then sit the NY bar exam. Without the qualification in the UK, your academic credentials may always hinder you. That is just my 2 cents.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a training contract as an American in London? Do any firms specifically look at this favorably?
Hello everyone!

Another American doing the GDL here. If you are not talking about the top LLM programs, many allow not lawyers into the programs in the US. Compliance and tax professionals are among the most likely to be non-lawyers in an LLM program. I don't think that many people at all in the US are familiar with a GDL.

It is my opinion but as others stated above, if your true intention is to work in the US, the best method is to become a solicitor in UK and Wales and then sit the NY bar exam. Without the qualification in the UK, your academic credentials may always hinder you. That is just my 2 cents.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to get a training contract as an American in London? Do any firms specifically look at this favorably?
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