NYU & LSAC Evaluation


I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?

I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?
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mikado

Hi,

You should know that there are only 4 possibilities :
- Below average
- Average
- Above average
- Superior

Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
Anyway, you are competing with other students from your own country... I don't think LSAC has a great impact on admissions, at least for top schools!

Hi,

You should know that there are only 4 possibilities :
- Below average
- Average
- Above average
- Superior

Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
Anyway, you are competing with other students from your own country... I don't think LSAC has a great impact on admissions, at least for top schools!

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dbk

Hi,

You should know that there are only 4 possibilities :
- Below average
- Average
- Above average
- Superior

Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
Anyway, you are competing with other students from your own country... I don't think LSAC has a great impact on admissions, at least for top schools!



They can still put superior without a ranking if you got the highest grade (for instance a GPA of 20/20) or the highest honors. In some countries, such as France, it is very unlikeley.

<blockquote>Hi,

You should know that there are only 4 possibilities :
- Below average
- Average
- Above average
- Superior

Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
Anyway, you are competing with other students from your own country... I don't think LSAC has a great impact on admissions, at least for top schools!

</blockquote>

They can still put superior without a ranking if you got the highest grade (for instance a GPA of 20/20) or the highest honors. In some countries, such as France, it is very unlikeley.
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proBR

Do any of you have official information on this or you're just guessing? I also got "above average" from LSAC and it really peaced me off, as I was in the top 5 of my class. My university has no official ranking though.

Do any of you have official information on this or you're just guessing? I also got "above average" from LSAC and it really peaced me off, as I was in the top 5 of my class. My university has no official ranking though.
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proBR

Btw, I've been reading past posts and it seems that everybody got "above average" from LSAC!!!

Btw, I've been reading past posts and it seems that everybody got "above average" from LSAC!!!
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Hi Thank you guys for your reply.

"Superior" or "Above Average" or else is merely based on grades.

So my guess is if you got a grades of 90 or more, then your chance of getting a "Superior" will be large. If 80-89, probably a "above average" unless you rank the first in your class.

But there are exceptions like some first degree schools take 85-95 as a A student (wel, guess they feels very negative about their own students xo). LSAC knows this and gives 85-90 a Superior.

BTW, they got my ranking wrong. But a reevaluation will be a waste of time. I will wait law school to challenge me on this unless all the best schools totally rely on LSAC and its stupidity.

Hi Thank you guys for your reply.

"Superior" or "Above Average" or else is merely based on grades.

So my guess is if you got a grades of 90 or more, then your chance of getting a "Superior" will be large. If 80-89, probably a "above average" unless you rank the first in your class.

But there are exceptions like some first degree schools take 85-95 as a A student (wel, guess they feels very negative about their own students xo). LSAC knows this and gives 85-90 a Superior.

BTW, they got my ranking wrong. But a reevaluation will be a waste of time. I will wait law school to challenge me on this unless all the best schools totally rely on LSAC and its stupidity.
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Do any of you have official information on this or you're just guessing? I also got "above average" from LSAC and it really peaced me off, as I was in the top 5 of my class. My university has no official ranking though.


Hi maybe "Superior" students have no worries and no interests in discussions as well...............

<blockquote>Do any of you have official information on this or you're just guessing? I also got "above average" from LSAC and it really peaced me off, as I was in the top 5 of my class. My university has no official ranking though. </blockquote>

Hi maybe "Superior" students have no worries and no interests in discussions as well...............
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proBR

Maybe. I saw some people saying that they were evaluated superior, but apparently all of them had been officialy ranked by their university of origin. Anyway, if someone has some official information on their criteria, I'd really appreciate them to share it. Thx

Maybe. I saw some people saying that they were evaluated superior, but apparently all of them had been officialy ranked by their university of origin. Anyway, if someone has some official information on their criteria, I'd really appreciate them to share it. Thx
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MAB79

I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?


No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?

<blockquote>I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?</blockquote>

No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?
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I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?


No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?


Thanks, that's very encouraging...bt, I guess it still put ppl at a comparative disadvantage.......T.T

<blockquote><blockquote>I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?</blockquote>

No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?</blockquote>

Thanks, that's very encouraging...bt, I guess it still put ppl at a comparative disadvantage.......T.T
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MAB79

I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?


No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?


Thanks, that's very encouraging...bt, I guess it still put ppl at a comparative disadvantage.......T.T


You may believe that. But all of my friends that have been to Columbia got an above average only by the LSAC. CLS actually looks to way way more than the grades only. So, if you received an above average, this is no disadvantage. Of course I am not saying that receiving a "Top of the class" rating is not an advantage...but above avg. simply is not a disadvantage

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I just got the result from LSAC, above average. Does this mean I will be in a disadvantigous position in terms of academic records.

Does above average sound like only good than the other half of the students...? I am very depressed.

Anyone know ppl who got admitted by NYU and other LSAC required schools with this remark?</blockquote>

No worries...I got an above average as well and got into columbia...as many others here...superior, is that even a actual rating at LSAC?</blockquote>

Thanks, that's very encouraging...bt, I guess it still put ppl at a comparative disadvantage.......T.T</blockquote>

You may believe that. But all of my friends that have been to Columbia got an above average only by the LSAC. CLS actually looks to way way more than the grades only. So, if you received an above average, this is no disadvantage. Of course I am not saying that receiving a "Top of the class" rating is not an advantage...but above avg. simply is not a disadvantage
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NZ Girl

I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).

I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).
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I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).


Wel, I guess there are so many ways to evaluate one's academic performance that no one can claim his/her evaluation is completely accurate. LSAC's method is very simple, and may not be better than any other ways. I believe schools like Harvard, Stanford, NYU will have their own ways of evaluation. LSAC is more like the campus shopping center.....if u get what I am trying to say here.......and it provides convienience instead of accuracy or quality........

PS., Congradulations on your Superior

<blockquote>I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).</blockquote>

Wel, I guess there are so many ways to evaluate one's academic performance that no one can claim his/her evaluation is completely accurate. LSAC's method is very simple, and may not be better than any other ways. I believe schools like Harvard, Stanford, NYU will have their own ways of evaluation. LSAC is more like the campus shopping center.....if u get what I am trying to say here.......and it provides convienience instead of accuracy or quality........

PS., Congradulations on your Superior
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MAB79

I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).


Wel, I guess there are so many ways to evaluate one's academic performance that no one can claim his/her evaluation is completely accurate. LSAC's method is very simple, and may not be better than any other ways. I believe schools like Harvard, Stanford, NYU will have their own ways of evaluation. LSAC is more like the campus shopping center.....if u get what I am trying to say here.......and it provides convienience instead of accuracy or quality........

PS., Congradulations on your Superior


I support that. But again: if you have an above average in your LSAC, every top school will consider you. So, no worries about that. These law school get many, many applications and about 1/3 is simply not considered to be good material (but not because of the grades but rather because the application as a whole is not really great, i.w. bad writing etc.). For the rest, simply everybody can get the chance...

<blockquote><blockquote>I can confirm that it is possible to be classified as 'superior' even if you don't provide LSAC with a class rank. LSAC rated my Bachelor of Arts degree marks as 'superior' even though I did not provide them with a rank (as my university doesn't rank its Arts faculty students). I had an "A" Average over my degree (being between 85-89 / 100).</blockquote>

Wel, I guess there are so many ways to evaluate one's academic performance that no one can claim his/her evaluation is completely accurate. LSAC's method is very simple, and may not be better than any other ways. I believe schools like Harvard, Stanford, NYU will have their own ways of evaluation. LSAC is more like the campus shopping center.....if u get what I am trying to say here.......and it provides convienience instead of accuracy or quality........

PS., Congradulations on your Superior </blockquote>

I support that. But again: if you have an above average in your LSAC, every top school will consider you. So, no worries about that. These law school get many, many applications and about 1/3 is simply not considered to be good material (but not because of the grades but rather because the application as a whole is not really great, i.w. bad writing etc.). For the rest, simply everybody can get the chance...
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Verona


Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".

It's not true. Both my degrees with no official ranking and a GPA of 4.83 and 5.0 out of 5.0, respectively, were rated "superior".

<blockquote>
Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
</blockquote>
It's not true. Both my degrees with no official ranking and a GPA of 4.83 and 5.0 out of 5.0, respectively, were rated "superior".
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Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".

It's not true. Both my degrees with no official ranking and a GPA of 4.83 and 5.0 out of 5.0, respectively, were rated "superior".


That's very impressive! I wonder which country are you from, and what's the major for the 5 GPA...it's unbelieveable to have a 5 out of 5 GPA on law or arts/literature related majors, which means you are perfect in every course taken...

our professors rarely gives 90 above scores....

<blockquote><blockquote>
Moreover, depending on which country you come from, if you can't provide LSAC with your rank (i.e France), they can't put you "superior".
</blockquote>
It's not true. Both my degrees with no official ranking and a GPA of 4.83 and 5.0 out of 5.0, respectively, were rated "superior".</blockquote>

That's very impressive! I wonder which country are you from, and what's the major for the 5 GPA...it's unbelieveable to have a 5 out of 5 GPA on law or arts/literature related majors, which means you are perfect in every course taken...

our professors rarely gives 90 above scores....
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ringirl

Hi everybody

I've been told that LSAC manages a chart in which our local grades (GPA) are rated in "Excellent", "Very Good", "Good", etc. And according to that chart they would give us "superior", etc..

My grades are fine, but not my class ranking (very competitive).. so I'm a bit worried about that.

Do they also take in account our degree honors? I got magna cum laude.. I hope they see that.



Thanks! and good luck to all.


Hi everybody

I've been told that LSAC manages a chart in which our local grades (GPA) are rated in "Excellent", "Very Good", "Good", etc. And according to that chart they would give us "superior", etc..

My grades are fine, but not my class ranking (very competitive).. so I'm a bit worried about that.

Do they also take in account our degree honors? I got magna cum laude.. I hope they see that.



Thanks! and good luck to all.
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