LLM Cornell University


Jorge

Hey there! I was wondering if any of you guys knows more about the Cornell University. Is it actually in New York City? After all I think I will go to one of the bigger ÃS cities so NYC would of course be nice.
Thanks!

Hey there! I was wondering if any of you guys knows more about the Cornell University. Is it actually in New York City? After all I think I will go to one of the bigger ÚS cities so NYC would of course be nice.
Thanks!
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George

Hi Jorge! Cornell is actually not really in New York City but in a small town. With all the universities in the New York section you can distinguish easily: The ones that are actually in NYC have the address "New York, NY + no.".

Hi Jorge! Cornell is actually not really in New York City but in a small town. With all the universities in the New York section you can distinguish easily: The ones that are actually in NYC have the address "New York, NY + no.".
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Deranwalt

Cornell is in the Finger Lakes regions in upstate New York, specifically in the Greek-named town of Ithaca, NY, in (5 to 6 hours by car from NYC). The education is excellent - it's also Ivy league if that matters to you, but you're definitely not in a big city.

Cornell is in the Finger Lakes regions in upstate New York, specifically in the Greek-named town of Ithaca, NY, in (5 to 6 hours by car from NYC). The education is excellent - it's also Ivy league if that matters to you, but you're definitely not in a big city.
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Jorge

Hi George and Deranwalt, Thanks for your input! Deranwalt: I have heard a lot of good things about Cornell. But also Columbia and NYU should be with quite a good reputation right?

Hi George and Deranwalt, Thanks for your input! Deranwalt: I have heard a lot of good things about Cornell. But also Columbia and NYU should be with quite a good reputation right?
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Nikolas

If you are interested in Columbia and NYU you may want to look at this discussion: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/317

If you are interested in Columbia and NYU you may want to look at this discussion: http://www.llm-guide.com/board/317
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Deranwalt

Columbia and Cornell are both Ivy league. NYU is not. I only offer this info if it matters (and to future employers it does-prestige- take a look a webpage from any blue chip US firm.) Attending any of the three, will provide you with an excellent background of US law, and, what I think is equally important, connections with students who will become your friends and future colleagues. I am not sure if you want to work a year in the US after completion, but I would in order to apply what you have learned. LLM spots are very competitive - in some cases you're being billed out at (US)$250 an hour- so we search for the most able attorneys. In addition to being competent attorneys in their respective jurisdictions, the LLM students working in my firm (for a year only -from Mexico, China, France) got their jobs based, at least it appears, to a great degree based on their pedigree and alumni from their school at the firm. I hope these ramblings help as US LLM are (too) expensive and I hate to see fellow lawyers not get what they want.

Columbia and Cornell are both Ivy league. NYU is not. I only offer this info if it matters (and to future employers it does-prestige- take a look a webpage from any blue chip US firm.) Attending any of the three, will provide you with an excellent background of US law, and, what I think is equally important, connections with students who will become your friends and future colleagues. I am not sure if you want to work a year in the US after completion, but I would in order to apply what you have learned. LLM spots are very competitive - in some cases you're being billed out at (US)$250 an hour- so we search for the most able attorneys. In addition to being competent attorneys in their respective jurisdictions, the LLM students working in my firm (for a year only -from Mexico, China, France) got their jobs based, at least it appears, to a great degree based on their pedigree and alumni from their school at the firm. I hope these ramblings help as US LLM are (too) expensive and I hate to see fellow lawyers not get what they want.
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Jorge

Hi Deranwalt, Thank you your long and informative answer. i definitely agree that the prices are to high for US LLMs but actually they are not so much lower in the UK for example at least if you are not from EU. Therefore, I thing it will better for me to do the 'real' thing in the US, I heard they have all these job ´fares and so on. I guess I will try also NYU, because Columbia does not take so many students i hear as NYU?Anyway, I ll try. Where are you planning your LLm by the way?

Hi Deranwalt, Thank you your long and informative answer. i definitely agree that the prices are to high for US LLMs but actually they are not so much lower in the UK for example at least if you are not from EU. Therefore, I thing it will better for me to do the 'real' thing in the US, I heard they have all these job ´fares and so on. I guess I will try also NYU, because Columbia does not take so many students i hear as NYU?Anyway, I ll try. Where are you planning your LLm by the way?
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Deranwalt

Sorry for the delayed response. Work has been busy. I have a US law degree and 7 years of US training so I am only looking to study in continental Europe (Germany or Belgium.) I practice US antitrust and M&A law (competition law) so I want to study in a non-English speaking environment to also benefit from the foreign language surroundings.

Sorry for the delayed response. Work has been busy. I have a US law degree and 7 years of US training so I am only looking to study in continental Europe (Germany or Belgium.) I practice US antitrust and M&A law (competition law) so I want to study in a non-English speaking environment to also benefit from the foreign language surroundings.
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Jorge

Sounds interesting! So which countries are on your list? Germany I suppose, guessing from you name

Sounds interesting! So which countries are on your list? Germany I suppose, guessing from you name
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Deranwalt

Sounds interesting! So which countries are on your list? Germany I suppose, guessing from you name



I chose the German name because I have to be careful. If I don't get into any school, I don't want job difficulties later. I am presently employed, and I know that some of the foreign attorneys in my firm may be using this site (i.e., reading the posts) and could accidently discuss it with my less than understanding bosses or to other aggressive colleagues who may use it to get ahead. (Oh life in a big firm....)

I have mostly German, French, and Swiss clients so Germany would be great for continued work with the first two. (I intend to work in Europe and keep my clients...discussions currently pending with an American firm/sweatshop for an intitial landing pad) Keeping in mind that I want to work while I study, I am looking closely at the University in Munich for the European LLM. I have been told that the legal market is not as bad there as in the rest of Germany. As for Belgium, I chose schools in Brussels because that is where I generally work when I come to Europe.

To be continued...

<blockquote>Sounds interesting! So which countries are on your list? Germany I suppose, guessing from you name</blockquote>


I chose the German name because I have to be careful. If I don't get into any school, I don't want job difficulties later. I am presently employed, and I know that some of the foreign attorneys in my firm may be using this site (i.e., reading the posts) and could accidently discuss it with my less than understanding bosses or to other aggressive colleagues who may use it to get ahead. (Oh life in a big firm....)

I have mostly German, French, and Swiss clients so Germany would be great for continued work with the first two. (I intend to work in Europe and keep my clients...discussions currently pending with an American firm/sweatshop for an intitial landing pad) Keeping in mind that I want to work while I study, I am looking closely at the University in Munich for the European LLM. I have been told that the legal market is not as bad there as in the rest of Germany. As for Belgium, I chose schools in Brussels because that is where I generally work when I come to Europe.

To be continued...
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Janus

Hey Jorge,

I just came accross your message. Cornell is located in a very remote town, 6 hours from NYC. It makes it a really enjoyable studying place, while being not too far from either Montréal or NYC by car...

I'm currently attending my LLM here, so I am biased, but feel free to ask questions and see the class spirit on our association website http://organizations.lawschool.cornell.edu/llm/

Good luck !

Hey Jorge,

I just came accross your message. Cornell is located in a very remote town, 6 hours from NYC. It makes it a really enjoyable studying place, while being not too far from either Montréal or NYC by car...

I'm currently attending my LLM here, so I am biased, but feel free to ask questions and see the class spirit on our association website http://organizations.lawschool.cornell.edu/llm/

Good luck !
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miki

Hi Janus
Could you tell me whether Cornell LLM uses a grading system or a pass/fail system?
thanks

Hi Janus
Could you tell me whether Cornell LLM uses a grading system or a pass/fail system?
thanks
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peggyw77

Hi Miki,

JD: Cornell uses ABCDEF to grade students; however, some students can opt to use pass/fail (S/U) for some very limited courses. It is up to professors.
LLM: Cornell uses H/S/U (Honor/Satisfaction/Unsatisfaction) for LLM students. For courses with option to S/U, LLM students can choose to use that grading system too. However, Cornell doesn't use ABCDEF to grade LLM students.

Hope this information can be of some help to you.

Hi Miki,

JD: Cornell uses ABCDEF to grade students; however, some students can opt to use pass/fail (S/U) for some very limited courses. It is up to professors.
LLM: Cornell uses H/S/U (Honor/Satisfaction/Unsatisfaction) for LLM students. For courses with option to S/U, LLM students can choose to use that grading system too. However, Cornell doesn't use ABCDEF to grade LLM students.

Hope this information can be of some help to you.
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miki

Thanks peggyw77
I wonder whether all top law schools in the U.S. use this grading (H/S/U) for their LLM programs. But I think HLS uses ABCDEF. any idea?

Thanks peggyw77
I wonder whether all top law schools in the U.S. use this grading (H/S/U) for their LLM programs. But I think HLS uses ABCDEF. any idea?
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peggyw77

Not every school uses the H/S/U grading system. I am not sure which grading system most top law schools use.
According to a friend from Columbia, they still use ABCDEF. I also heard that Yale uses S/U (pass/fail) system only; but I am not positive about this information, it is just a hearsay.

Not every school uses the H/S/U grading system. I am not sure which grading system most top law schools use.
According to a friend from Columbia, they still use ABCDEF. I also heard that Yale uses S/U (pass/fail) system only; but I am not positive about this information, it is just a hearsay.
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miki

Thanks a lot Peggy
so u've already graduated from Cornell.
very beautyful gown!
hope that i can make it next year ;)

Thanks a lot Peggy
so u've already graduated from Cornell.
very beautyful gown!
hope that i can make it next year ;)
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Vlad

Hi, i just got admitted to the Cornell LLM. I would like to know if there are scholarships that are available in Cornell. Several acquiantances of mine have told me to just go to the USA and there would be lots of scholarships there. Im a little short on the funding, i can however get loans from my relatives, but im banking on getting scholarships when i get there. Is there really a possibility of me getting a scholarship at Cornell, not necessarily directly from Cornell, but from associated/affiliated organizations over there?

Thanks in advance!! :)

Hi, i just got admitted to the Cornell LLM. I would like to know if there are scholarships that are available in Cornell. Several acquiantances of mine have told me to just go to the USA and there would be lots of scholarships there. Im a little short on the funding, i can however get loans from my relatives, but im banking on getting scholarships when i get there. Is there really a possibility of me getting a scholarship at Cornell, not necessarily directly from Cornell, but from associated/affiliated organizations over there?

Thanks in advance!! :)
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tom_france

Hi vlad (and maybe future colleague as I was admitted too) I wouldnât count on any further scholarships after your arrival, but Iâm not American so maybe Iâm wrong (still I would be very surprised!).
Cheers.

Hi vlad (and maybe future colleague as I was admitted too) I wouldn’t count on any further scholarships after your arrival, but I’m not American so maybe I’m wrong (still I would be very surprised!).
Cheers.
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Kek

Jorge,
Unsure as to what you mean by the "real thing" in the US as opposed to the UK ?????
It may be advisable to check the foundations of English Law
and the origination of Harvard itself

Jorge,
Unsure as to what you mean by the "real thing" in the US as opposed to the UK ?????
It may be advisable to check the foundations of English Law
and the origination of Harvard itself


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Russ

Thanks kek...
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/288 ;-)

Thanks kek...
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/288 ;-)
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