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fiftyfive

Hi,

I have an LLB from the University of London (external programme) which means I was awarded the degree through lectures held in Pakistan at a UOL Recognised Teaching Centre, and not on campus at a UOL institution in the UK. I am not sure if this classifies as distance learning and prohibits me from taking the NY bar exam or if I would otherwise need to get an LLM from a ABA-approved law school to “cure” this deficiency if I somehow do not qualify under the substantive and durational requirements of Rule 520.6 & 520.3. I wanted some help in figuring out if I would be allowed to sit for the NY state bar exam without an LLM.

If not and even if I don’t need an LLM, I still want to do one (either before or after getting into the bar) so I wanted to ask for suggestions or tips on how to secure an LLM at a top law school for someone who has around 2-3 years of work experience at a tier 2 ranked law firm (in Pakistan - as per Legal500) (or if that even matters) and a 2:1 in my LLB degree. In addition, I wanted to ask if theres any other factors that are useful to enhance my portfolio/application before I apply to these schools next year. I don’t really have any academic writing or extra-curriculars to show at the moment. Thanks a lot to anyone that can help.

[Edited by fiftyfive on Aug 16, 2022]

Hi, <br>
I have an LLB from the University of London (external programme) which means I was awarded the degree through lectures held in Pakistan at a UOL Recognised Teaching Centre, and not on campus at a UOL institution in the UK. I am not sure if this classifies as distance learning and prohibits me from taking the NY bar exam or if I would otherwise need to get an LLM from a ABA-approved law school to “cure” this deficiency if I somehow do not qualify under the substantive and durational requirements of Rule 520.6 &amp; 520.3. I wanted some help in figuring out if I would be allowed to sit for the NY state bar exam without an LLM. <br>
If not and even if I don’t need an LLM, I still want to do one (either before or after getting into the bar) so I wanted to ask for suggestions or tips on how to secure an LLM at a top law school for someone who has around 2-3 years of work experience at a tier 2 ranked law firm (in Pakistan - as per Legal500) (or if that even matters) and a 2:1 in my LLB degree. In addition, I wanted to ask if theres any other factors that are useful to enhance my portfolio/application before I apply to these schools next year. I don’t really have any academic writing or extra-curriculars to show at the moment. Thanks a lot to anyone that can help.
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Hi

Im from Sri Lanka. Im a NY attorney graduated in Aberdeen law school in UK. my circumstance was bit similar to you. But I had internal UK LLB.  External degrees are unfortunately not qualified for ' ' substantive and durational requirement'  for the NY bar purposes. You may have to sit for LLM in this case. After all , in the absence of a JD qualification, getting LLM qualified is recommended for you to advance as a lawyer in US . as well as to qualify to sit the Bar.

Hi<br><br>Im from Sri Lanka. Im a NY attorney graduated in Aberdeen law school in UK. my circumstance was bit similar to you. But I had internal UK LLB. &nbsp;External degrees are unfortunately not qualified for ' ' substantive and durational requirement' &nbsp;for the NY bar purposes. You may have to sit for LLM in this case. After all , in the absence of a JD qualification, getting LLM qualified is recommended for you to advance as a lawyer in US . as well as to qualify to sit the Bar.
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fiftyfive

Hi Rajitha. Thankyou so much for your help! 

Hi

Im from Sri Lanka. Im a NY attorney graduated in Aberdeen law school in UK. my circumstance was bit similar to you. But I had internal UK LLB.  External degrees are unfortunately not qualified for ' ' substantive and durational requirement'  for the NY bar purposes. You may have to sit for LLM in this case. After all , in the absence of a JD qualification, getting LLM qualified is recommended for you to advance as a lawyer in US . as well as to qualify to sit the Bar.

Hi Rajitha. Thankyou so much for your help!&nbsp;<br><br>[quote]Hi<br><br>Im from Sri Lanka. Im a NY attorney graduated in Aberdeen law school in UK. my circumstance was bit similar to you. But I had internal UK LLB. &nbsp;External degrees are unfortunately not qualified for ' ' substantive and durational requirement' &nbsp;for the NY bar purposes. You may have to sit for LLM in this case. After all , in the absence of a JD qualification, getting LLM qualified is recommended for you to advance as a lawyer in US . as well as to qualify to sit the Bar. [/quote]
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jwpetterch...

I know some Nigerians who did UOL External Degrees through residential colleges various places, some even in England, like at Holborn College, back when it was still around. They came over and did the NY bar exam with no problems, no LLM needed. If the Recognized Teaching Center is just a RTC and not a full-fledged college, then yeah you'll probably *need* an LLM from an American Bar Association-accredited school as one of the cure provisions. The only way to get an answer about this is to send in your documents ASAP to the NY BOLE, which is free of charge.

As long as you do an LLM, you should be able to do the NY Bar Exam.

Hi,

I have an LLB from the University of London (external programme) which means I was awarded the degree through lectures held in Pakistan at a UOL Recognised Teaching Centre, and not on campus at a UOL institution in the UK. I am not sure if this classifies as distance learning and prohibits me from taking the NY bar exam or if I would otherwise need to get an LLM from a ABA-approved law school to “cure” this deficiency if I somehow do not qualify under the substantive and durational requirements of Rule 520.6 & 520.3. I wanted some help in figuring out if I would be allowed to sit for the NY state bar exam without an LLM.

If not and even if I don’t need an LLM, I still want to do one (either before or after getting into the bar) so I wanted to ask for suggestions or tips on how to secure an LLM at a top law school for someone who has around 2-3 years of work experience at a tier 2 ranked law firm (in Pakistan - as per Legal500) (or if that even matters) and a 2:1 in my LLB degree. In addition, I wanted to ask if theres any other factors that are useful to enhance my portfolio/application before I apply to these schools next year. I don’t really have any academic writing or extra-curriculars to show at the moment. Thanks a lot to anyone that can help.

I know some Nigerians who did UOL External Degrees through residential colleges various places, some even in England, like at Holborn College, back when it was still around. They came over and did the NY bar exam with no problems, no LLM needed. If the Recognized Teaching Center is just a RTC and not a full-fledged college, then yeah you'll probably *need* an LLM from an American Bar Association-accredited school as one of the cure provisions. The only way to get an answer about this is to send in your documents ASAP to the NY BOLE, which is free of charge. <br><br>As long as you do an LLM, you should be able to do the NY Bar Exam.<br><br>[quote]Hi, <br>
I have an LLB from the University of London (external programme) which means I was awarded the degree through lectures held in Pakistan at a UOL Recognised Teaching Centre, and not on campus at a UOL institution in the UK. I am not sure if this classifies as distance learning and prohibits me from taking the NY bar exam or if I would otherwise need to get an LLM from a ABA-approved law school to “cure” this deficiency if I somehow do not qualify under the substantive and durational requirements of Rule 520.6 &amp; 520.3. I wanted some help in figuring out if I would be allowed to sit for the NY state bar exam without an LLM. <br>
If not and even if I don’t need an LLM, I still want to do one (either before or after getting into the bar) so I wanted to ask for suggestions or tips on how to secure an LLM at a top law school for someone who has around 2-3 years of work experience at a tier 2 ranked law firm (in Pakistan - as per Legal500) (or if that even matters) and a 2:1 in my LLB degree. In addition, I wanted to ask if theres any other factors that are useful to enhance my portfolio/application before I apply to these schools next year. I don’t really have any academic writing or extra-curriculars to show at the moment. Thanks a lot to anyone that can help. [/quote]
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