HLS - Just Take It


qiang

Congratulations to all applicants admitted by HLS!

Congratulations to all applicants admitted by HLS!
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JDI

For a JD absolutely yes, but for an LLM I would not agree with you... Harvard is ranked 5th - and has been for the past 3 years in a row.

If you want to work in the US without a JD you're better served going to a NY based law school (unless you are looking for a teaching position).

For a JD absolutely yes, but for an LLM I would not agree with you... Harvard is ranked 5th - and has been for the past 3 years in a row.

If you want to work in the US without a JD you're better served going to a NY based law school (unless you are looking for a teaching position).



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qiang

It won't be wrong to choose HLS.

It won't be wrong to choose HLS.
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jw

JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?


JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?
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qiang


JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?


JW: it's based on the following ranking

http://www.thelawjournal.co.uk/Ranking%20LLM%20U.S.%20Programmes%202006.htm

It is true that Harvard is not the best place to train attorneys. Actually, it focuses on something else. It might be better for those who would like to serve law firms to take admission of CLS or NYU.

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JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?</blockquote>

JW: it's based on the following ranking

http://www.thelawjournal.co.uk/Ranking%20LLM%20U.S.%20Programmes%202006.htm

It is true that Harvard is not the best place to train attorneys. Actually, it focuses on something else. It might be better for those who would like to serve law firms to take admission of CLS or NYU.
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pra608


JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?


JW: it's based on the following ranking

http://www.thelawjournal.co.uk/Ranking%20LLM%20U.S.%20Programmes%202006.htm

It is true that Harvard is not the best place to train attorneys. Actually, it focuses on something else. It might be better for those who would like to serve law firms to take admission of CLS or NYU.


The auap ranking is absolutely fake! They just want many people to pay the money to theit program.

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JDI:

Harvard's LLM has ranked 5th? What ranks above?</blockquote>

JW: it's based on the following ranking

http://www.thelawjournal.co.uk/Ranking%20LLM%20U.S.%20Programmes%202006.htm

It is true that Harvard is not the best place to train attorneys. Actually, it focuses on something else. It might be better for those who would like to serve law firms to take admission of CLS or NYU.</blockquote>

The auap ranking is absolutely fake! They just want many people to pay the money to theit program.
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gar33

For a JD absolutely yes, but for an LLM I would not agree with you... Harvard is ranked 5th - and has been for the past 3 years in a row.


Well, the ranking also says Yale is 12th... Do you really find it credible? I most certainly don't....

I prefered Yale over Harvard, but as I guess I wasn't admitted to YLS I will go to HLS, despite having offers from NYU (with scolarship) and Chicago. HLS is an awesome school and Havard is simply the best university in the world.

Ah... and reputation counts: A LOT!

<blockquote>For a JD absolutely yes, but for an LLM I would not agree with you... Harvard is ranked 5th - and has been for the past 3 years in a row.</blockquote>

Well, the ranking also says Yale is 12th... Do you really find it credible? I most certainly don't....

I prefered Yale over Harvard, but as I guess I wasn't admitted to YLS I will go to HLS, despite having offers from NYU (with scolarship) and Chicago. HLS is an awesome school and Havard is simply the best university in the world.

Ah... and reputation counts: A LOT!
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snow2006

The auap ranking is not credible at all!

I think I'll accept the HLS offer although I had been admitted at NYU as a Hauser.

The auap ranking is not credible at all!

I think I'll accept the HLS offer although I had been admitted at NYU as a Hauser.
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JDI

You are right, you can't go wrong with Harvard if you look at the big picture, but is it worth giving up a full scholarship for? Winning a merit scholarship adds a lot of weight to your professional and academic profile, not to mention the cash savings.

You are right, you can't go wrong with Harvard if you look at the big picture, but is it worth giving up a full scholarship for? Winning a merit scholarship adds a lot of weight to your professional and academic profile, not to mention the cash savings.
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Mila

I am glad I am not the only idiot on this board who rejected the NYU scholarship (Grotius in my case)/ RA deal...

I am glad I am not the only idiot on this board who rejected the NYU scholarship (Grotius in my case)/ RA deal...
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Mila

But I am really glad that I'll be at HLS next year! See you guys there!

But I am really glad that I'll be at HLS next year! See you guys there!
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coco

I am glad I am not the only idiot on this board who rejected the NYU scholarship (Grotius in my case)/ RA deal...


I can see why Harvard is notorious for attracting trust fund babies. The opportunity cost of giving up close to 50k and the incredible honor of a scholarship at a top law school seems outrageous to me... however, if you have that much money to burn opportunities are probably not your greatest concern.

<blockquote>I am glad I am not the only idiot on this board who rejected the NYU scholarship (Grotius in my case)/ RA deal...</blockquote>

I can see why Harvard is notorious for attracting trust fund babies. The opportunity cost of giving up close to 50k and the incredible honor of a scholarship at a top law school seems outrageous to me... however, if you have that much money to burn opportunities are probably not your greatest concern.
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Jess2006

I am goingt o be quite blunt here - I think you are letting yourself down if you make a choice on name alone. Surely its important to weigh up all factors in the decision making process? I can certainly understand name being a large part, but not all. What about academic interests, teaching style, desired post-LLM goals, finances? I will be turning down Harvard (and yes this was a hard choice), even though I have a full scholarship there (including living allowance). Another school was better suited to me based on all relevant considerations.

I am goingt o be quite blunt here - I think you are letting yourself down if you make a choice on name alone. Surely its important to weigh up all factors in the decision making process? I can certainly understand name being a large part, but not all. What about academic interests, teaching style, desired post-LLM goals, finances? I will be turning down Harvard (and yes this was a hard choice), even though I have a full scholarship there (including living allowance). Another school was better suited to me based on all relevant considerations.
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josepidal

Could you describe those considerations in greater detail? Also, how do you have a full scholarship; isn't HLS supposed to be just beginning their evaluations for financial assistance?

Could you describe those considerations in greater detail? Also, how do you have a full scholarship; isn't HLS supposed to be just beginning their evaluations for financial assistance?
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Mila

Of course I am well aware of the 'incredible honor' of a prestigious merit based scholarship. That is why I called myself an idiot you see. But I feel, as Jess rightly said, that other considerations should be more important. For instance, Harvard has got a pretty large SJD program, whereas NYU admits only 7 people a year and these 7 people can be LL.M's from all over the country (including Harvard). Also, there are many scholars at Harvard I strongly admire. Moreover, I am only graduating this year and I am not really sure about my specialization. My interests are still pretty broad (I won't bore you with all the details). And I feel that all of these interests are well-served at Harvard, whereas NYU seems to have it's specific strengts (e.g in international law). Also, and this might sound boring, plus it is not a decisive factor, I am not so attracted to New York as a city. It might be great, if one has got the money.
Finally, I arranged some funding in my home country to which I will no longer be eligible in case of receiving a full tuition waver. So I was lucky enough to be able to make this decision without thinking too much about the tuition money.

Of course I am well aware of the 'incredible honor' of a prestigious merit based scholarship. That is why I called myself an idiot you see. But I feel, as Jess rightly said, that other considerations should be more important. For instance, Harvard has got a pretty large SJD program, whereas NYU admits only 7 people a year and these 7 people can be LL.M's from all over the country (including Harvard). Also, there are many scholars at Harvard I strongly admire. Moreover, I am only graduating this year and I am not really sure about my specialization. My interests are still pretty broad (I won't bore you with all the details). And I feel that all of these interests are well-served at Harvard, whereas NYU seems to have it's specific strengts (e.g in international law). Also, and this might sound boring, plus it is not a decisive factor, I am not so attracted to New York as a city. It might be great, if one has got the money.
Finally, I arranged some funding in my home country to which I will no longer be eligible in case of receiving a full tuition waver. So I was lucky enough to be able to make this decision without thinking too much about the tuition money.
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Mandingo

Grad schools do not attract trust fund babies, undergraduate programs do.

Law is for the middle and upper middle classes, The upperclass is not bothered with law school(or any other grad/proffesional school).

Grad schools do not attract trust fund babies, undergraduate programs do.

Law is for the middle and upper middle classes, The upperclass is not bothered with law school(or any other grad/proffesional school).
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Mila

It might be my different cultural background, but I really don't get this trust fund baby, middle class, upper class thing!!
In my country we don't even have this distinction, so it would be nice if someone could fill me in...
Are you saying that only the 'rich kids' go to Harvard?!?!

It might be my different cultural background, but I really don't get this trust fund baby, middle class, upper class thing!!
In my country we don't even have this distinction, so it would be nice if someone could fill me in...
Are you saying that only the 'rich kids' go to Harvard?!?!
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Mandingo

I fail to see how my recent posting can be hard to comprehend..

Law degree is an graduate degree in the US.

I'm saying the exact opposite darling,members of the upper class(bona fides rich) do not go to law school. They only get their BA(at an ivy league college usually) and live the life of a leisured gentleman.

I fail to see how my recent posting can be hard to comprehend..

Law degree is an graduate degree in the US.

I'm saying the exact opposite darling,members of the upper class(bona fides rich) do not go to law school. They only get their BA(at an ivy league college usually) and live the life of a leisured gentleman.
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gar33

Hi!

I will also turn down NYU with vanderbilt (and Chicago, BTW) for Harvard.

Oh... and I'm not an idiot or a "trust-fund baby" (if I understand what you mean...).

Nobody here is fool and decided on basis of pure reputation. I endorse Mila's arguments (I'm also very young, still in college and have broad research interests) and sum up a few more of my own.

Now the other thing is to say that reputation is irrelevant: especially if you're not an american and people back at home don't know much about the relative merits of different law schools, reputation counts a lot! Moreover, Harvard is an amazing school, has an amazing faculty and amazing resources.

Quite happy with my decision so far.

Hi!

I will also turn down NYU with vanderbilt (and Chicago, BTW) for Harvard.

Oh... and I'm not an idiot or a "trust-fund baby" (if I understand what you mean...).

Nobody here is fool and decided on basis of pure reputation. I endorse Mila's arguments (I'm also very young, still in college and have broad research interests) and sum up a few more of my own.

Now the other thing is to say that reputation is irrelevant: especially if you're not an american and people back at home don't know much about the relative merits of different law schools, reputation counts a lot! Moreover, Harvard is an amazing school, has an amazing faculty and amazing resources.

Quite happy with my decision so far.
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black

Guys with full scholarships, I believe that you re right in going for HLS and not choose another school based on financial considerations. 40-60K is a lot but not so much for lawyers who will obviously be successful (in particular those who plan to work for a big law firm). I have a friend who turned down HLS 2 years ago, because of a full scholarship offered in another school, and now regrets cos' the money would have been reimbursed pretty quickly (2-3 years if not less). So she lost the big name of Harvard. If other considerations (specialization, location, etc) are part of the decision, then the debate is different.

Guys with full scholarships, I believe that you re right in going for HLS and not choose another school based on financial considerations. 40-60K is a lot but not so much for lawyers who will obviously be successful (in particular those who plan to work for a big law firm). I have a friend who turned down HLS 2 years ago, because of a full scholarship offered in another school, and now regrets cos' the money would have been reimbursed pretty quickly (2-3 years if not less). So she lost the big name of Harvard. If other considerations (specialization, location, etc) are part of the decision, then the debate is different.
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