Chances - top 6/9 %


Ralph Wigg...

Hi all,

I've obtained a "Magister iuris"-degree (comparable to a master-degree from anglo-american institution based on 4 or 5 years of studying) from the University of Vienna (Austria). Official ranking puts me among the top 6 % of the 3rd (and last) part of the curriculum and among the top 9 % concerning the overall curriculum (including its first, second and third part).

Besides, I'm about to obtain a further degree in economics ("Magister rer.soc.oec." which - as explained above - is comparable to a master-degree after 4 or 5 years of studying) from another Viennese University.

I have absoluteley no idea about my chances of getting admitted to a (good or possibly very good UK- or US-university's) LLM-program... How do you estimate my situation and chances solely based on these facts...? When writing about a (very) good university I'm thinking e.g. of LSE, Cambridge or Oxford in the UK, and let's say NYU, Chicago, Harvard, Berkeley, Columbia, Stanford, Yale, Cornell, Virginia, Northwestern... Of course it's always worth giving it a try - but seen in a realistic perspective what would you say?

Hi all,

I've obtained a "Magister iuris"-degree (comparable to a master-degree from anglo-american institution based on 4 or 5 years of studying) from the University of Vienna (Austria). Official ranking puts me among the top 6 % of the 3rd (and last) part of the curriculum and among the top 9 % concerning the overall curriculum (including its first, second and third part).

Besides, I'm about to obtain a further degree in economics ("Magister rer.soc.oec." which - as explained above - is comparable to a master-degree after 4 or 5 years of studying) from another Viennese University.

I have absoluteley no idea about my chances of getting admitted to a (good or possibly very good UK- or US-university's) LLM-program... How do you estimate my situation and chances solely based on these facts...? When writing about a (very) good university I'm thinking e.g. of LSE, Cambridge or Oxford in the UK, and let's say NYU, Chicago, Harvard, Berkeley, Columbia, Stanford, Yale, Cornell, Virginia, Northwestern... Of course it's always worth giving it a try - but seen in a realistic perspective what would you say?
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Augu

Hi!
I am Austrian too, graduated last year from University of Vienna.
Believe me, your chances for admission to top-tier universities are very good. Although my grades are not as good as yours, I got admission to Georgetown (no. 14 according to the US news ranking) - grades are only one aspect universities consider. Your letters of recommendation and your personal statement are very important!
If you have any other question, don´t hesitate to ask me!

Hi!
I am Austrian too, graduated last year from University of Vienna.
Believe me, your chances for admission to top-tier universities are very good. Although my grades are not as good as yours, I got admission to Georgetown (no. 14 according to the US news ranking) - grades are only one aspect universities consider. Your letters of recommendation and your personal statement are very important!
If you have any other question, don´t hesitate to ask me!
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Ralph Wigg...

Hi!
I am Austrian too, graduated last year from University of Vienna.
Believe me, your chances for admission to top-tier universities are very good. Although my grades are not as good as yours, I got admission to Georgetown (no. 14 according to the US news ranking) - grades are only one aspect universities consider. Your letters of recommendation and your personal statement are very important!
If you have any other question, don´t hesitate to ask me!


Thank you very much - that sounds very promising... (or simply "Danke" since we are both Austrians ;-)) - and thank you for the offer to contact you with some questions - maybe I'll come back to you somewhen later if I should have some more specific questions concerning the application process or so...

You mentioned the expression "top-tier university"; what is exactly meant by this? Is this the same as top 20?

<blockquote>Hi!
I am Austrian too, graduated last year from University of Vienna.
Believe me, your chances for admission to top-tier universities are very good. Although my grades are not as good as yours, I got admission to Georgetown (no. 14 according to the US news ranking) - grades are only one aspect universities consider. Your letters of recommendation and your personal statement are very important!
If you have any other question, don´t hesitate to ask me!</blockquote>

Thank you very much - that sounds very promising... (or simply "Danke" since we are both Austrians ;-)) - and thank you for the offer to contact you with some questions - maybe I'll come back to you somewhen later if I should have some more specific questions concerning the application process or so...

You mentioned the expression "top-tier university"; what is exactly meant by this? Is this the same as top 20?
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Augu

I am sorry, I can´t provide you with a precise definition. I would consider the top 20 universities to be "top-tier", but this is only my personal opinion.
Speaking of rankings, I have to say that I don´t rely too much on their significance. But nevertheless they are a guideline and many employers care about rankings.

I am sorry, I can´t provide you with a precise definition. I would consider the top 20 universities to be "top-tier", but this is only my personal opinion.
Speaking of rankings, I have to say that I don´t rely too much on their significance. But nevertheless they are a guideline and many employers care about rankings.
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Ralph Wigg...

I am sorry, I can´t provide you with a precise definition. I would consider the top 20 universities to be "top-tier", but this is only my personal opinion.
Speaking of rankings, I have to say that I don´t rely too much on their significance. But nevertheless they are a guideline and many employers care about rankings.


Well, probably "top-tier" is only an informal qualification anyway...

Especially focussing Austrian law firms or international firms with a subsidiary or office in Austria I think that it is in most cases absolutely sufficient to have an LLM-degree (from a program held in English language) at all. If someone's interested in working in a big law firm based in Brussels, Frankfurt, London etc. standards might be higher.

<blockquote>I am sorry, I can´t provide you with a precise definition. I would consider the top 20 universities to be "top-tier", but this is only my personal opinion.
Speaking of rankings, I have to say that I don´t rely too much on their significance. But nevertheless they are a guideline and many employers care about rankings.</blockquote>

Well, probably "top-tier" is only an informal qualification anyway...

Especially focussing Austrian law firms or international firms with a subsidiary or office in Austria I think that it is in most cases absolutely sufficient to have an LLM-degree (from a program held in English language) at all. If someone's interested in working in a big law firm based in Brussels, Frankfurt, London etc. standards might be higher.
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Ralph Wigg...

Just pushing my thread - sorry for that! Any other estimations concerning my realistic chances...? Pleeeeease :-)

Just pushing my thread - sorry for that! Any other estimations concerning my realistic chances...? Pleeeeease :-)
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Ralph Wigg...

Any other thoughts?

Any other thoughts?
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Lucinda

Someone defined "top tier" on a post, go check the definition out, its a recent post...actually you created a post abou that and someone gave you a complete definition
;-)

Someone defined "top tier" on a post, go check the definition out, its a recent post...actually you created a post abou that and someone gave you a complete definition
;-)
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Ralph Wigg...

Someone defined "top tier" on a post, go check the definition out, its a recent post...actually you created a post abou that and someone gave you a complete definition
;-)


Oh - I'm sorry! What I'm hoping for are some more thoughts about my chances of getting admitted to a (very) good law school's LLM-program with respect to my grades respectively my ranking postition (as stated above) and to my second degree which I will obtain after having finished studies of economics.

<blockquote>Someone defined "top tier" on a post, go check the definition out, its a recent post...actually you created a post abou that and someone gave you a complete definition
;-)</blockquote>

Oh - I'm sorry! What I'm hoping for are some more thoughts about my chances of getting admitted to a (very) good law school's LLM-program with respect to my grades respectively my ranking postition (as stated above) and to my second degree which I will obtain after having finished studies of economics.
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