Queen Mary, Essex or LSE?


cjbn
I applied for an LLM in Public International at Queen Mary and LSE and International Human Rights and Humanitarian Law at Essex.......which one would you choose and why? Which one is better than the other?
I applied for an LLM in Public International at Queen Mary and LSE and International Human Rights and Humanitarian Law at Essex.......which one would you choose and why? Which one is better than the other?
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Chinaman
It all depends on what you are interested in doing.
Essex is supposed to be very reputed in Human Rights, but if you don't want to restrict yourself to Human Rights, you can consider the other courses.
But comparing PIL to IHL is a little difficult I suppose, given the scope of the former is so much wider.
One would have to know about you and your career goals.
It all depends on what you are interested in doing.
Essex is supposed to be very reputed in Human Rights, but if you don't want to restrict yourself to Human Rights, you can consider the other courses.
But comparing PIL to IHL is a little difficult I suppose, given the scope of the former is so much wider.
One would have to know about you and your career goals.
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law01
LSE is considered as one of the best Universities in the UK and in the world too. In the UK, for law, it is second only to oxbridge, even though some rankings place it above them.
Queen Mary has a very good reputation and is considered as one of the top law schools in the UK.
Essex on the other hand is a middle-low tier university, if you manage to get accepted in LSE or Queen Mary you should not even think of Essex as a choice!
LSE is considered as one of the best Universities in the UK and in the world too. In the UK, for law, it is second only to oxbridge, even though some rankings place it above them.
Queen Mary has a very good reputation and is considered as one of the top law schools in the UK.
Essex on the other hand is a middle-low tier university, if you manage to get accepted in LSE or Queen Mary you should not even think of Essex as a choice!
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Chinaman
Well law 01, some people make choices based on the kind of professors teaching at a school, and the overall reputation of a program (not just of the school).
Essex has a stellar reputation in Human Rights, and can compete with most other programs in the world. I did not even apply to LSE and QM because the program at Essex seemed much better tailored to my needs.
I got through Georgetown in the US, which has a better overall repuation internationally, and I still think Essex is a good alternative to it, because of the professors who teach there, the alumni network (not to mention the price).
But if you (the thread starter) are not that keen on human rights, and just want an LLM from a highly ranked univeristy, then yes, LSE and QM might be better choices.
Well law 01, some people make choices based on the kind of professors teaching at a school, and the overall reputation of a program (not just of the school).
Essex has a stellar reputation in Human Rights, and can compete with most other programs in the world. I did not even apply to LSE and QM because the program at Essex seemed much better tailored to my needs.
I got through Georgetown in the US, which has a better overall repuation internationally, and I still think Essex is a good alternative to it, because of the professors who teach there, the alumni network (not to mention the price).
But if you (the thread starter) are not that keen on human rights, and just want an LLM from a highly ranked univeristy, then yes, LSE and QM might be better choices.
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law01
Well law 01, some people make choices based on the kind of professors teaching at a school, and the overall reputation of a program (not just of the school).
Essex has a stellar reputation in Human Rights, and can compete with most other programs in the world. I did not even apply to LSE and QM because the program at Essex seemed much better tailored to my needs.
I got through Georgetown in the US, which has a better overall repuation internationally, and I still think Essex is a good alternative to it, because of the professors who teach there, the alumni network (not the mention the price).
But if you (the htread starter) arent that keen on human rights, and just want an LLM from a highly ranked univeristy, then yes LSE and Qm might be better choices.



I am sorry but i will have to disagree with you. I am studying in Manchester, and I will be doing my BPTC and LLM in the next two years. Despite not studying in Essex I spent most of my time there due to my girlfriend studying there, I also know several people who study/studied both their LLB and LLM there. Even they believe that Essex has a very low standard, it is used by many as a 'safety' choice as it accepts almost everyone. Also most of the post-graduate students there are people who studied their LLB there and this is because they give scholarships to their former students even if they have a 2:2!
<blockquote>Well law 01, some people make choices based on the kind of professors teaching at a school, and the overall reputation of a program (not just of the school).
Essex has a stellar reputation in Human Rights, and can compete with most other programs in the world. I did not even apply to LSE and QM because the program at Essex seemed much better tailored to my needs.
I got through Georgetown in the US, which has a better overall repuation internationally, and I still think Essex is a good alternative to it, because of the professors who teach there, the alumni network (not the mention the price).
But if you (the htread starter) arent that keen on human rights, and just want an LLM from a highly ranked univeristy, then yes LSE and Qm might be better choices.
</blockquote>


I am sorry but i will have to disagree with you. I am studying in Manchester, and I will be doing my BPTC and LLM in the next two years. Despite not studying in Essex I spent most of my time there due to my girlfriend studying there, I also know several people who study/studied both their LLB and LLM there. Even they believe that Essex has a very low standard, it is used by many as a 'safety' choice as it accepts almost everyone. Also most of the post-graduate students there are people who studied their LLB there and this is because they give scholarships to their former students even if they have a 2:2!
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Chinaman
Again, you are missing my point. I am not taking about its repuation for an LLM in general, but for a very specific program.
How selective an institution is etc, is one thing. But you can not take away from the reputation of Essex in Human Rights, and I say this based on:
1) What people of LLM guide say
2) My own research on people teaching there.
3) What a huge majority of people in UN organizations and International NGOs say.
But let us just agree to disagree on this. :)
Again, you are missing my point. I am not taking about its repuation for an LLM in general, but for a very specific program.
How selective an institution is etc, is one thing. But you can not take away from the reputation of Essex in Human Rights, and I say this based on:
1) What people of LLM guide say
2) My own research on people teaching there.
3) What a huge majority of people in UN organizations and International NGOs say.
But let us just agree to disagree on this. :)
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law01
Again, you are missing my point. I am not taking about its repuation for an LLM in general, but for a very specific program.
How selective an institution is etc, is one thing. But you can not take away from the reputation of Essex in Human Rights, and I say this based on
1) What people of LLM guide say
2) My own research on people teaching there.
3) What a huge majority of people in UN organizations and International NGOs say.
But let us just agree to disagree on this. :)


Haha indeed I don't know about human rights as I hate this subject BUT I knoe from essex Law students that the standard is terrible, third years didn't even have public law 2 lectures until last week because they were short of staff. Also in their contract exam they gave them accidentally the criminal law exam and when they realised tey just gave them the correct one but didn't pick the criminal one back so students took it home and they went to their criminal law exam a week later fully aware of the questions. If this is not low standard then what is?
<blockquote>Again, you are missing my point. I am not taking about its repuation for an LLM in general, but for a very specific program.
How selective an institution is etc, is one thing. But you can not take away from the reputation of Essex in Human Rights, and I say this based on
1) What people of LLM guide say
2) My own research on people teaching there.
3) What a huge majority of people in UN organizations and International NGOs say.
But let us just agree to disagree on this. :)</blockquote>

Haha indeed I don't know about human rights as I hate this subject BUT I knoe from essex Law students that the standard is terrible, third years didn't even have public law 2 lectures until last week because they were short of staff. Also in their contract exam they gave them accidentally the criminal law exam and when they realised tey just gave them the correct one but didn't pick the criminal one back so students took it home and they went to their criminal law exam a week later fully aware of the questions. If this is not low standard then what is?
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Chinaman
Allright, you have completely convinced me, even though you admit to not knowing about human rights, and hating the specialization I am talking about. :)
Allright, you have completely convinced me, even though you admit to not knowing about human rights, and hating the specialization I am talking about. :)
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law01
Allright, you have completely convinced me, even though you admit to not knowing about human rights, and hating the specialization I am talking about. :)


:) i am a person who never relies on university rankings so I would never say scap essex go to lse because it's higher in the rankings! But i have experienced the low standard and the lack of professionalism in essex! And this comes from a person who 1) has a girlfriend that goes to essex so i spent a lot of time there and 2) i have applied to essez for an LLM but only as a safe safe choice in case i manage to commit suicide and get really low grades :p
<blockquote>Allright, you have completely convinced me, even though you admit to not knowing about human rights, and hating the specialization I am talking about. :) </blockquote>

:) i am a person who never relies on university rankings so I would never say scap essex go to lse because it's higher in the rankings! But i have experienced the low standard and the lack of professionalism in essex! And this comes from a person who 1) has a girlfriend that goes to essex so i spent a lot of time there and 2) i have applied to essez for an LLM but only as a safe safe choice in case i manage to commit suicide and get really low grades :p
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benw1228
It all depends on what you are interested in doing.
Essex is supposed to be very reputed in Human Rights, but if you don't want to restrict yourself to Human Rights, you can consider the other courses.
But comparing PIL to IHL is a little difficult I suppose, given the scope of the former is so much wider.
One would have to know about you and your career goals.


hmmmm I think you may want to have a look at LSE again especially for Human Rights
<blockquote>It all depends on what you are interested in doing.
Essex is supposed to be very reputed in Human Rights, but if you don't want to restrict yourself to Human Rights, you can consider the other courses.
But comparing PIL to IHL is a little difficult I suppose, given the scope of the former is so much wider.
One would have to know about you and your career goals. </blockquote>

hmmmm I think you may want to have a look at LSE again especially for Human Rights
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