Master in Human Rights


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@Haroldjam:
Now im curious, what was your decision in the end?

@Haroldjam:
Now im curious, what was your decision in the end?



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PUCCA

HEY YES I WANT To know where ar eu going after all!

i agree with my fellow colleagues,,,LLM is better for Phd but if choose LSE i think you can also try to apply for the Phd i dont think it would a really really big deal in my opinion,,,just ask the unis before you apply for your Phd if your Msc is enough

Good luck :)

HEY YES I WANT To know where ar eu going after all!

i agree with my fellow colleagues,,,LLM is better for Phd but if choose LSE i think you can also try to apply for the Phd i dont think it would a really really big deal in my opinion,,,just ask the unis before you apply for your Phd if your Msc is enough

Good luck :)
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haroldjam

I just thought after all the efforts you guys took in confusing me (just joking) I should check in and tell you my decision. I decided to go LSE and it's ok, not great. I was bored almost immediately. Later I will write a complete review of LSE.

I just thought after all the efforts you guys took in confusing me (just joking) I should check in and tell you my decision. I decided to go LSE and it's ok, not great. I was bored almost immediately. Later I will write a complete review of LSE.
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Poppet

Definitely looking forward to hearing your final opinion on taking human rights at LSE instead of Nottingham (or Essex.) I struggle with this same debate daily, and I haven't even applied anywhere yet. I'm sorry to hear that it hasn't been a great experience.

Out of curiosity though, something in this thread is confusing me -- Is it possible to get a PhD in Law if you have an LLM, but no LLB? Anybody know?

Definitely looking forward to hearing your final opinion on taking human rights at LSE instead of Nottingham (or Essex.) I struggle with this same debate daily, and I haven't even applied anywhere yet. I'm sorry to hear that it hasn't been a great experience.

Out of curiosity though, something in this thread is confusing me -- Is it possible to get a PhD in Law if you have an LLM, but no LLB? Anybody know?
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haroldjam

It is possible to get a Phd. I found LSE Human Rights programme to not be very well thought out, neither is it well taught. You could theoretically be enrolled in human rights and do only two human rights courses and the depth just isn't there. I am so tired of school but I am honestly thinking of applying to Essex for a LLM Human Rights next year or better yet just do the PHD. I actually feel cheated attending LSE. Much more to say but later.

It is possible to get a Phd. I found LSE Human Rights programme to not be very well thought out, neither is it well taught. You could theoretically be enrolled in human rights and do only two human rights courses and the depth just isn't there. I am so tired of school but I am honestly thinking of applying to Essex for a LLM Human Rights next year or better yet just do the PHD. I actually feel cheated attending LSE. Much more to say but later.
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haroldjam

bored

bored
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Tabmas08

Haroldjam
I got into the LLM's for Human Rights at LSE ,UCL,and Nottingham and have been awarded a Commonwealth scholarship to start at LSE in September this year.
After having read your dilemma in picking between LSE and Nottingham I would really like to know why you are bored with your programme at LSE.Is the Msc programme designed very differently from the LLM in Human Rights.
Would appreciate your comments.

Haroldjam
I got into the LLM's for Human Rights at LSE ,UCL,and Nottingham and have been awarded a Commonwealth scholarship to start at LSE in September this year.
After having read your dilemma in picking between LSE and Nottingham I would really like to know why you are bored with your programme at LSE.Is the Msc programme designed very differently from the LLM in Human Rights.
Would appreciate your comments.
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haroldjam

The Msc is similar but perhaps better. Let me explain. At least they have a Centre... dont get too excited. It is just a building that house it and there really isn't anything that it offers. You will do three courses and a thesis. One course Approaches to Human Rights has several aspects and so it theoretically gives you perspective as it has philosophical background for two classes and legal for two and so on liek anthropology and so forth. Overall.. that's it. You will then select any other two course that you feel like. This means that you would likely choose any human rights course from the LLM programme like International Human Rights or Human Rights in the Developing World. Your thesis will be 10,000 words. If you do the LLM thesis is 15,000 words. You can also do course form anywhere.. so can choose a course like constitutional theory (wouldnt recommend it unless you like Schmitt, Habermas and other German thinkers).... You could choose Peace and Conflct Studies.

Also, if you like studying in a big city where there is nowhere to sit then LSE is for you.. A rather large and intimidating library like a social centre.. UCL has a better atmosphere.. dont know anout the courses but campus life seems better and library has a traditional feel... but the truth is you can use any library in the city almost .. so you will be fine.... I cant speak of Nottingham but what I have heard suggest its the better place to go or Essex... If you are also looking for part time job... LSE will unlikely be the place.. Here agan Nottingham or Essex with their human rights centres sound like a better bet. Essex staff geberally work with UN etc. We have Professor Chinkin who has a reputation and Florian Hoffman... Other than that.. I am not convinced.... Some other lecturers I will email you about later . What else? This is enough for now

The Msc is similar but perhaps better. Let me explain. At least they have a Centre... dont get too excited. It is just a building that house it and there really isn't anything that it offers. You will do three courses and a thesis. One course Approaches to Human Rights has several aspects and so it theoretically gives you perspective as it has philosophical background for two classes and legal for two and so on liek anthropology and so forth. Overall.. that's it. You will then select any other two course that you feel like. This means that you would likely choose any human rights course from the LLM programme like International Human Rights or Human Rights in the Developing World. Your thesis will be 10,000 words. If you do the LLM thesis is 15,000 words. You can also do course form anywhere.. so can choose a course like constitutional theory (wouldnt recommend it unless you like Schmitt, Habermas and other German thinkers).... You could choose Peace and Conflct Studies.

Also, if you like studying in a big city where there is nowhere to sit then LSE is for you.. A rather large and intimidating library like a social centre.. UCL has a better atmosphere.. dont know anout the courses but campus life seems better and library has a traditional feel... but the truth is you can use any library in the city almost .. so you will be fine.... I cant speak of Nottingham but what I have heard suggest its the better place to go or Essex... If you are also looking for part time job... LSE will unlikely be the place.. Here agan Nottingham or Essex with their human rights centres sound like a better bet. Essex staff geberally work with UN etc. We have Professor Chinkin who has a reputation and Florian Hoffman... Other than that.. I am not convinced.... Some other lecturers I will email you about later . What else? This is enough for now
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haroldjam

generally

generally
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haroldjam

By the way, where are you coming from?

By the way, where are you coming from?
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Tabmas08

Thank you
I live in South Africa but I am of Zambian origin.I have been working for a Non governmental org after leaving the practice as soon as I completed my legal articles.My focus will be on Women's Rights so ideally apart from the Compulsory course I would like take up the Women's Rights course,Comparitive Constitutional Law or the coursees that focus on Poverty and the devloping world if they will be offered this year.
To be honest I am not a big city girl and location wise Nottingham would be more my type BUT it's LSE.I know...i know that sound silly but really LSE was something I could only dream about when younger and now to get an opportunity to study there fully funded is just amazing.
The award has already been made out for LSE so there is no turning back.I am glad that I have found somebody to give me an honest opinion coz then you can help me (if you do not mind) with tips and info for making sure my experience is good.
By they way, how conservative are the Law lectueres because I am really passionate about advocacy and minority issues.

Thank you
I live in South Africa but I am of Zambian origin.I have been working for a Non governmental org after leaving the practice as soon as I completed my legal articles.My focus will be on Women's Rights so ideally apart from the Compulsory course I would like take up the Women's Rights course,Comparitive Constitutional Law or the coursees that focus on Poverty and the devloping world if they will be offered this year.
To be honest I am not a big city girl and location wise Nottingham would be more my type BUT it's LSE.I know...i know that sound silly but really LSE was something I could only dream about when younger and now to get an opportunity to study there fully funded is just amazing.
The award has already been made out for LSE so there is no turning back.I am glad that I have found somebody to give me an honest opinion coz then you can help me (if you do not mind) with tips and info for making sure my experience is good.
By they way, how conservative are the Law lectueres because I am really passionate about advocacy and minority issues.
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haroldjam

dont worry still.. u cant lose... i came here.. im bored but not dead.. also.. lecturers not very helpful.. only 10 mins with ur academic advisor twice per year. very formal.. every thing online... no feed back on assignment.. everything is treated as an exam so u wont know until... well i wont kno until oct/nov all my essays/exams at once... very very impersonal.. but lse is a brand... so u cant go wrong... i was drawn to it too.

dont worry still.. u cant lose... i came here.. im bored but not dead.. also.. lecturers not very helpful.. only 10 mins with ur academic advisor twice per year. very formal.. every thing online... no feed back on assignment.. everything is treated as an exam so u wont know until... well i wont kno until oct/nov all my essays/exams at once... very very impersonal.. but lse is a brand... so u cant go wrong... i was drawn to it too.
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haroldjam

technically u could change if u want.. but dont.. i changed so many times until september last year

technically u could change if u want.. but dont.. i changed so many times until september last year
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Tabmas08

I must say for somebody who is bored, you still have alot of wit about you.
No feed back on assignments....mhmmm...ok....and you will only know your essay results in Oct/Nov.Wow....that is the price I have to pay for a brand name...but to be honest back here UCL and Nottingham are unknown and I also have to think of my prospects after my Masters.
Would be great if you could chat to me sometime(considering your boredom) on skype or msn so I could ask you more questions.It's weird that this site does not have a chatting link.
Sadly..I am one of those people who like to plan in advance so I can gear up for whats to come.
Also...tell me what you were expecting from the programme so I can understand your disappointment and perhaps offer words of consolation:).

I must say for somebody who is bored, you still have alot of wit about you.
No feed back on assignments....mhmmm...ok....and you will only know your essay results in Oct/Nov.Wow....that is the price I have to pay for a brand name...but to be honest back here UCL and Nottingham are unknown and I also have to think of my prospects after my Masters.
Would be great if you could chat to me sometime(considering your boredom) on skype or msn so I could ask you more questions.It's weird that this site does not have a chatting link.
Sadly..I am one of those people who like to plan in advance so I can gear up for whats to come.
Also...tell me what you were expecting from the programme so I can understand your disappointment and perhaps offer words of consolation:).
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Poppet

I'm bumping this. Has anyone else considered or applying to the MSc in Human Rights at LSE? Does anyone have any thoughts on it?

I'm bumping this. Has anyone else considered or applying to the MSc in Human Rights at LSE? Does anyone have any thoughts on it?
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Good Gosh

i'm an llm at lse doing lots of HR courses, and lots of my friends are doing the MSc. i think harold jam's take is a bit negative personally but i'm sure he is honestly recounting his experience. i think the human rights courses at the lse are fantastic and i'm so so pleased to be reading for my llm there. i'd strongly recommend it.

i'm an llm at lse doing lots of HR courses, and lots of my friends are doing the MSc. i think harold jam's take is a bit negative personally but i'm sure he is honestly recounting his experience. i think the human rights courses at the lse are fantastic and i'm so so pleased to be reading for my llm there. i'd strongly recommend it.
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Tabmas08

Iam doing the LLM in Human Rights at LSE too at the momment and I am loving it.I guess people have different experiences but on the whole I am very happy to be here and have learnt soooo much.I would def recommend it anyday.

Iam doing the LLM in Human Rights at LSE too at the momment and I am loving it.I guess people have different experiences but on the whole I am very happy to be here and have learnt soooo much.I would def recommend it anyday.
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haroldjam

LSE was fine in the end, but it is bad for student satisfaction. Lack of interaction with students is the primary reason. I am applying for Phd now and got accepted Sheffield and Kent. I want a campus feel... looking at Essex as well and Nottingham,

LSE was fine in the end, but it is bad for student satisfaction. Lack of interaction with students is the primary reason. I am applying for Phd now and got accepted Sheffield and Kent. I want a campus feel... looking at Essex as well and Nottingham,
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haroldjam

Nevertheless, I am a proud graduate of LSE. I have made lifelong friends and I keep in touch with three professors. Perhaps my own disappointment stemmed from my bias and the fact that I am used to a more interactive setting not only between lecturers and students but also among students. Perhaps, too, on reflection, I didn't take enough time to enjoy the programme. Nevertheless, I still feel there was something missing. Maybe because I have been a teacher, lecturer and attorney and I have a more dynamic style of teaching I was somewhat judgmental. As I said in my posts, LSE is a top brand and despite its dull moments as I am sure exists everywjere it is a top brand and a school of which you will be immensely and forever proud from having attending. Perhaps I should have seen more of the city and even visit Nottingham but I remain true and committed to the LSE and would recommend it to anyone.

Nevertheless, I am a proud graduate of LSE. I have made lifelong friends and I keep in touch with three professors. Perhaps my own disappointment stemmed from my bias and the fact that I am used to a more interactive setting not only between lecturers and students but also among students. Perhaps, too, on reflection, I didn't take enough time to enjoy the programme. Nevertheless, I still feel there was something missing. Maybe because I have been a teacher, lecturer and attorney and I have a more dynamic style of teaching I was somewhat judgmental. As I said in my posts, LSE is a top brand and despite its dull moments as I am sure exists everywjere it is a top brand and a school of which you will be immensely and forever proud from having attending. Perhaps I should have seen more of the city and even visit Nottingham but I remain true and committed to the LSE and would recommend it to anyone.
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