LLM in UK...input please!


atlas
Greetings all,

I've scoured the archives of the boards here and have found partial answers to my questions, but not entirely. If anyone could share experiences, insight or answers I'd greatly appreciate it. (I've posted a similar question in the US section, but since I'm most interested in an LLM in the US, UK (and maybe Norway) I'm cross-posting. Hopefully that's fine! :)

1. Are there universities in the UK that offer full (or at least substantial) scholarships for students who want to specialize their LLM in maritime law or 'law & economics'?

2. Do you know of special scholarships geared towards (female) applicants from Africa? (I have an LLB, have practiced as a prosecutor and most recently as a magistrate)

3. What is the best way to show that a fee waiver for the application fee is needed? And to attain a fee waiver?

4. Besides University of Edinburgh and University of Southampton being great for Maritime study - are there other UK schools anyone would recommend for this field? And what schools in particular has anyone found especially strong in "law & economics"?

I greatly appreciate any and all input you all provide!
Greetings all,

I've scoured the archives of the boards here and have found partial answers to my questions, but not entirely. If anyone could share experiences, insight or answers I'd greatly appreciate it. (I've posted a similar question in the US section, but since I'm most interested in an LLM in the US, UK (and maybe Norway) I'm cross-posting. Hopefully that's fine! :)

1. Are there universities in the UK that offer full (or at least substantial) scholarships for students who want to specialize their LLM in maritime law or 'law & economics'?

2. Do you know of special scholarships geared towards (female) applicants from Africa? (I have an LLB, have practiced as a prosecutor and most recently as a magistrate)

3. What is the best way to show that a fee waiver for the application fee is needed? And to attain a fee waiver?

4. Besides University of Edinburgh and University of Southampton being great for Maritime study - are there other UK schools anyone would recommend for this field? And what schools in particular has anyone found especially strong in "law & economics"?

I greatly appreciate any and all input you all provide!
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atlas
Anyone - any advice on the above??

I checked out the top UK schools here: http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?subject=LAW

Of these, the following offer an LLM in Maritime law (or other related advanced Maritime-related degree) and I put their rankings in parentheses: Dundee (9), Nottingham (10), Southampton (10), Uni of London (5), Bristol (12), Swansea (49), Hull (24) and Hertfordshire (56). Now rankings don't mean everything and these rankings are about law programs in the UK overall and not Maritime, but do you all agree that it gives you an idea of the various schools' name recognition and reputation - and how marketable it might make one?
Anyone - any advice on the above??

I checked out the top UK schools here: http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?subject=LAW

Of these, the following offer an LLM in Maritime law (or other related advanced Maritime-related degree) and I put their rankings in parentheses: Dundee (9), Nottingham (10), Southampton (10), Uni of London (5), Bristol (12), Swansea (49), Hull (24) and Hertfordshire (56). Now rankings don't mean everything and these rankings are about law programs in the UK overall and not Maritime, but do you all agree that it gives you an idea of the various schools' name recognition and reputation - and how marketable it might make one?
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Greetings all,

I've scoured the archives of the boards here and have found partial answers to my questions, but not entirely. If anyone could share experiences, insight or answers I'd greatly appreciate it. (I've posted a similar question in the US section, but since I'm most interested in an LLM in the US, UK (and maybe Norway) I'm cross-posting. Hopefully that's fine! :)

1. Are there universities in the UK that offer full (or at least substantial) scholarships for students who want to specialize their LLM in maritime law or 'law & economics'?

2. Do you know of special scholarships geared towards (female) applicants from Africa? (I have an LLB, have practiced as a prosecutor and most recently as a magistrate)

3. What is the best way to show that a fee waiver for the application fee is needed? And to attain a fee waiver?

4. Besides University of Edinburgh and University of Southampton being great for Maritime study - are there other UK schools anyone would recommend for this field? And what schools in particular has anyone found especially strong in "law & economics"?

I greatly appreciate any and all input you all provide!


Hi, I'll try to answer some of your questions since you've had no other replies.

1. Generally, very few LLM students get scholarships. When scholarships are available they often go to UK/European students before international students. However, international students may find some funding available via the British Council:
http://www.educationuk.org/pls/hot_bc/page_pls_user_advice?x=&y=&a=0&d=4460
I've not heard of any scholarships especially for the subject you mention.

2. Check at the link above.

3. Lots of UK universities don't apply a fee for applications (unlike the US). If they do, it's is fairly limited eg. £30. LSE don't charge this fee if you apply via the British Council - again see link above.

4. Southampton and Nottingham tend to be the universities one associates the most with maritime law - they have some good specialists. Some Scottish uni's are also good.

The only place that springs to mind for an LLM in 'Law and Economics' is Manchester - they have run a law and ec. programme for quite a few years.

With respect to your second post, the most marketable and respected LLMs are from Oxbridge and the Uni of London colleges. Then the Russell Group universities (the old traditional universities) eg. Manchester, Nottingham, Bristol. You can't go wrong with any of them - so in the areas you mention...look at Manchester and Nottingham.

As for other uni's...only go if they offer a great specialist programme, because it's unlikely the university will be known outside the UK (assuming reputation is a decisive factor).
<blockquote>Greetings all,

I've scoured the archives of the boards here and have found partial answers to my questions, but not entirely. If anyone could share experiences, insight or answers I'd greatly appreciate it. (I've posted a similar question in the US section, but since I'm most interested in an LLM in the US, UK (and maybe Norway) I'm cross-posting. Hopefully that's fine! :)

1. Are there universities in the UK that offer full (or at least substantial) scholarships for students who want to specialize their LLM in maritime law or 'law & economics'?

2. Do you know of special scholarships geared towards (female) applicants from Africa? (I have an LLB, have practiced as a prosecutor and most recently as a magistrate)

3. What is the best way to show that a fee waiver for the application fee is needed? And to attain a fee waiver?

4. Besides University of Edinburgh and University of Southampton being great for Maritime study - are there other UK schools anyone would recommend for this field? And what schools in particular has anyone found especially strong in "law & economics"?

I greatly appreciate any and all input you all provide!</blockquote>

Hi, I'll try to answer some of your questions since you've had no other replies.

1. Generally, very few LLM students get scholarships. When scholarships are available they often go to UK/European students before international students. However, international students may find some funding available via the British Council:
http://www.educationuk.org/pls/hot_bc/page_pls_user_advice?x=&y=&a=0&d=4460
I've not heard of any scholarships especially for the subject you mention.

2. Check at the link above.

3. Lots of UK universities don't apply a fee for applications (unlike the US). If they do, it's is fairly limited eg. £30. LSE don't charge this fee if you apply via the British Council - again see link above.

4. Southampton and Nottingham tend to be the universities one associates the most with maritime law - they have some good specialists. Some Scottish uni's are also good.

The only place that springs to mind for an LLM in 'Law and Economics' is Manchester - they have run a law and ec. programme for quite a few years.

With respect to your second post, the most marketable and respected LLMs are from Oxbridge and the Uni of London colleges. Then the Russell Group universities (the old traditional universities) eg. Manchester, Nottingham, Bristol. You can't go wrong with any of them - so in the areas you mention...look at Manchester and Nottingham.

As for other uni's...only go if they offer a great specialist programme, because it's unlikely the university will be known outside the UK (assuming reputation is a decisive factor).
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atlas
Thank you very much cowboy!! I appreciate your feedback and will check out the link you provided. I understand that Nottingham and Southampton are very known for their maritime programs - I figure those would be great schools for me to look further into. Also, you mentioned U of London having a good deal of prestige, and as such, I will look into it as well since they offer a concentrated maritime program also.

Thanks again!
Thank you very much cowboy!! I appreciate your feedback and will check out the link you provided. I understand that Nottingham and Southampton are very known for their maritime programs - I figure those would be great schools for me to look further into. Also, you mentioned U of London having a good deal of prestige, and as such, I will look into it as well since they offer a concentrated maritime program also.

Thanks again!
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jessychen
Nottingham associated with maritime law- are you serious? One professor specialised in trade and one specialised in wrecks and that's enough!!! I suggest you check the web-site of Swansea- so many maritime options available and staff actively teaching for the practice. My boss attended Charterparties seminars organised by the Institute Professor Richard Williams and Professor Thomas and told me to go nowhere but Swansea. 'A happy blend of academia with practice' he said.
Which professional courses Nottingham staff do by the way

Jessy Chen
Nottingham associated with maritime law- are you serious? One professor specialised in trade and one specialised in wrecks and that's enough!!! I suggest you check the web-site of Swansea- so many maritime options available and staff actively teaching for the practice. My boss attended Charterparties seminars organised by the Institute Professor Richard Williams and Professor Thomas and told me to go nowhere but Swansea. 'A happy blend of academia with practice' he said.
Which professional courses Nottingham staff do by the way

Jessy Chen
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Since you are looking for LLM in Maritime law, I am not sure Edinburgh would be your first choice, though they do have very knowledgable lecturers on law of the sea...not strictly maritime law. However, Edinburgh is great for law and economics. I did the course as part of my international law LLM at Edinburgh and it was very challenging and rewarding.
Best of luck.
Since you are looking for LLM in Maritime law, I am not sure Edinburgh would be your first choice, though they do have very knowledgable lecturers on law of the sea...not strictly maritime law. However, Edinburgh is great for law and economics. I did the course as part of my international law LLM at Edinburgh and it was very challenging and rewarding.
Best of luck.
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