LLM in Maritime law at Swansea/ Southampton University.


sagor8603

Hi everyone,

I am working in Merchant Navy as Chief officer and looking forward to doing LLM in Maritime law preferably in Swansea or Southampton university. Looking for connections/suggestions in this regard especially in terms of employment after completing the LLM.

TIA

Hi everyone,

I am working in Merchant Navy as Chief officer and looking forward to doing LLM in Maritime law preferably in Swansea or Southampton university. Looking for connections/suggestions in this regard especially in terms of employment after completing the LLM.

TIA
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CC_Erika

Swansea! Without question! Better employment support, better teaching, better student service and the lecturers are actually there, teaching you! 

Swansea! Without question! Better employment support, better teaching, better student service and the lecturers are actually there, teaching you! 
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sagor8603

Swansea! Without question! Better employment support, better teaching, better student service and the lecturers are actually there, teaching you! 


Thank you very much for your advice. Looking forward to it.

[quote]Swansea! Without question! Better employment support, better teaching, better student service and the lecturers are actually there, teaching you!&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Thank you very much for your advice. Looking forward to it.
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kosta

Swansea in my view (and for many in the sector) is the most exciting and contemporary provider at the moment. Just have a look:

https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/



  

Swansea in my view (and for many in the sector) is the most exciting and contemporary provider at the moment. Just have a look:<br><br><a href="https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/">https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/</a><br><br><br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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sagor8603

Swansea in my view (and for many in the sector) is the most exciting and contemporary provider at the moment. Just have a look:

https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/


Thanks a lot for your valuable feedback. Much appreciated.

[quote]Swansea in my view (and for many in the sector) is the most exciting and contemporary provider at the moment. Just have a look:<br><br><a href="https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/">https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/</a><br><br><br>Thanks a lot for your valuable feedback. Much appreciated.<br><br>
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barbarossa

I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me? 

<span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me?&nbsp;</span>
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I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me? 


Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well. 
On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates. 
I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly. 
Best luck for UCL ! 

[quote]<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me?&nbsp;</span> [/quote]<br><br>Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well.&nbsp;<br>On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates.&nbsp;<br>I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly.&nbsp;<br>Best luck for UCL !&nbsp;
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barbarossa

I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me? 


Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well. 
On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates. 
I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly. 
Best luck for UCL ! 



Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?


[quote][quote]<span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me?&nbsp;</span> [/quote]<br><br>Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well.&nbsp;<br>On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates.&nbsp;<br>I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly.&nbsp;<br>Best luck for UCL !&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br><br><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?
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Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?





No, not yet but Swansea just declared that they will have January Intake for the same program and most probably I will go with that considering even Visa centers are still closed there will be no time to start in September even though UCL gave me an offer with scholorship.. 

Any news or decision taken by your side ? 

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<br><span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?<br>
<br></span><br> [/quote]<br><br>No, not yet but Swansea just declared that they will have January Intake for the same program and most probably I will go with that considering even Visa centers are still closed there will be no time to start in September even though UCL gave me an offer with scholorship..&nbsp;<br><br>Any news or decision taken by your side ?&nbsp;<br><br>
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barbarossa


Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?





No, not yet but Swansea just declared that they will have January Intake for the same program and most probably I will go with that considering even Visa centers are still closed there will be no time to start in September even though UCL gave me an offer with scholorship.. 

Any news or decision taken by your side ? 

Not yet either. I haven't decide, still waiting for hearing from UCL. I will probably take the online course in September if I cannot take a visa and start face to face education in January. I was awarded a scholarship for my PhD and am required to start it in September 2021 at the latest. So, I cannot delay my LLM. However, I heard that some schools offer accelerated LLM options for January intakes which will end in September too. So, if Swansea or UCL offers such a thing, I can consider it either. 

[quote]<br><span style='display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: "Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;'>Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?<br>
<br></span><br> [/quote]<br><br>No, not yet but Swansea just declared that they will have January Intake for the same program and most probably I will go with that considering even Visa centers are still closed there will be no time to start in September even though UCL gave me an offer with scholorship..&nbsp;<br><br>Any news or decision taken by your side ?&nbsp;<br><br>Not yet either. I haven't decide, still waiting for hearing from UCL. I will probably take the online course in September if I cannot take a visa and start face to face education in January. I was awarded a scholarship for my PhD and am required to start it in September 2021 at the latest. So, I cannot delay my LLM. However, I heard that some schools offer accelerated LLM options for January intakes which will end in September too. So, if Swansea or UCL offers such a thing, I can consider it either.&nbsp;<br><br> [/quote]
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Hi everyone,

I am working in Merchant Navy as Chief officer and looking forward to doing LLM in Maritime law preferably in Swansea or Southampton university. Looking for connections/suggestions in this regard especially in terms of employment after completing the LLM.

TIA

[quote]Hi everyone,

I am working in Merchant Navy as Chief officer and looking forward to doing LLM in Maritime law preferably in Swansea or Southampton university. Looking for connections/suggestions in this regard especially in terms of employment after completing the LLM.

TIA [/quote]
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Hi I am also sailing as chief officer and hold a master's license. Is it necessary to have an undergraduate law qualification or our professional experience will help us in getting in LLM maritime law at Swansea.thanks

Hi I am also sailing as chief officer and hold a master's license. Is it necessary to have an undergraduate law qualification or our professional experience will help us in getting in LLM maritime law at Swansea.thanks
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flori

Hi I am also sailing as chief officer and hold a master's license. Is it necessary to have an undergraduate law qualification or our professional experience will help us in getting in LLM maritime law at Swansea.thanks


Hello,
I would say that their webpage provides a conclusive answer:
https://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/law/llmininternationalmaritimelaw/
The entry requirement for this LLM in International Maritime Law is a 2:2 honours degree, ideally in a cognate discipline.



Candidates with relevant experience are also encouraged to apply.

Best greetings
flori

[quote]Hi I am also sailing as chief officer and hold a master's license. Is it necessary to have an undergraduate law qualification or our professional experience will help us in getting in LLM maritime law at Swansea.thanks [/quote]<br><br>Hello,<br>I would say that their webpage provides a conclusive answer:<br>https://www.swansea.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/law/llmininternationalmaritimelaw/<br>The entry requirement for this LLM in International Maritime Law is a 2:2 honours degree, ideally in a cognate discipline.<br><br><br><br>Candidates with relevant experience are also encouraged to apply.<br><br>Best greetings<br>flori
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Hi Anshuman,

Masters CoC with a convincing letter of intent suffices the entry requirement. You need to demonstrate why you want to pursue the course and what value you will add to the class. 

Hope that helps. 

Regards
Puneet

Hi Anshuman,<br><br>Masters CoC with a convincing letter of intent suffices the entry requirement. You need to demonstrate why you want to pursue the course and what value you will add to the class.&nbsp;<br><br>Hope that helps.&nbsp;<br><br>Regards<br>Puneet
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I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me? 


Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well. 
On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates. 
I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly. 
Best luck for UCL ! 



Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?




I cant agree more. 

Overall ranking of Uni hardly matters when it comes to a course and industry as niche and specific as maritime law. The professors here are world renowned, and their value in market is known when your interviewers end up discussing about them as well. 

End of the day, it's not the University or the course that gets you the job, so there are no guarantees of successful career ahead solely on the basis of your choice, but it will have some influence for sure. 

Hope it helps, or makes you more confused! 

Best wishes to allPuneet

[quote][quote][quote]<span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">I have also been admitted to Swansea, and got offers from Southampton and QMUL as well. I applied UCL's maritime law llm program and waiting their decision. I know that Swansea's maritime law llm program is ranked as the best. However, the overall ranking of the university is highly low (somewhere at 400s) As for Southampton, most of its maritime law professors are said to be retired or passed to other universities. On the other hand, QMUL seems both prestigious and has a maritime law specialism. Professors Yvonne Baatz and Miriam Goldby are teaching there. UCL has a maritime law specialism as well and is ranked among the top 10 universities worldwide. Professor Melis Ozdel is there. So, I am very confused about my decision. Could you help me?&nbsp;</span> [/quote]<br><br>Hi ! I am almost in your situation as well and having a lot of thoughts recently. I got offer from Swansea and considering to go there because of their reputation in Maritime Law. However, latest QS 2020 rankings as 462th for Swansea University and 8th for the UCL really troubles my decision. I am also waiting a decision from UCL which applied recently. Southampton and QMUL is not my preferences but UCL really confuses me as well.&nbsp;<br>On the other hand Swansea maybe rank 462 in general yet they have really well known professors who write many books and have a lot of well respected publications in the field like Proffessor Baris Soyer, Proffessor Richard Williams and many others. Besides, although UCL has advantage due to a hub location in Marine Industry Swansea also well connected within and has many well positioned graduates.&nbsp;<br>I do not know really at this stage even we will be able to go to school at this Fall or had to delay but I think it is best that we talk with schools and lecturers and make our decisions accordingly.&nbsp;<br>Best luck for UCL !&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br><br><span style="display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(118, 115, 108); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">Thank you very much and wish you best on your decision. Any news from UCL?
<br></span><br> [/quote]<br><br>I cant agree more.&nbsp;<br><br>Overall ranking of Uni hardly matters when it comes to a course and industry as niche and specific as maritime law. The professors here are world renowned, and their value in market is known when your interviewers end up discussing about them as well.&nbsp;<br><br>End of the day, it's not the University or the course that gets you the job, so there are no guarantees of successful career ahead solely on the basis of your choice, but it will have some influence for sure.&nbsp;<br><br>Hope it helps, or makes you more confused!&nbsp;<br><br>Best wishes to all<div>Puneet</div>
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kosta

https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/

Have a look!!!

https://www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl/llmemployabilityinitiativesandresults/<br><br>Have a look!!!
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please suggest  best university for LLM in shipping law 

please suggest&nbsp; best university for LLM in shipping law&nbsp;
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kosta

This is simple nowadays- Swansea has the best academic team, best links to practice- everyone in practice and shipping knows that! Soton was very good 20 years ago but past is past! 

This is simple nowadays- Swansea has the best academic team, best links to practice- everyone in practice and shipping knows that! Soton was very good 20 years ago but past is past!&nbsp;
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kosta

It does not work like that in real shipping world mate! No one pays attention to the general rank of the University you graduated from- they care who you learned from (and what)  and how much they are known in the sector. I am saying this as a person who works in practice for 10 years!   

It does not work like that in real shipping world mate! No one pays attention to the general rank of the University you graduated from- they care who you learned from (and what)&nbsp; and how much they are known in the sector. I am saying this as a person who works in practice for 10 years!&nbsp; &nbsp;
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