Fail to meet IELTS condition


I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?

[Edited by rainmaker1 on May 06, 2018]

I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?
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Mombastic
I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?


How much is UCL asking for?
[quote]I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?[/quote]

How much is UCL asking for?
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I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?


Hi rainmaker,

I don't think that they will accept a waiver as you did not obtain the required overall score. I understand that in some exceptional cases they may accept your score if you fail to achieve the minimum score in one of the subtest, provided you do get the overall score they require. However, you do not lose anything by asking, so I would recommend you to send an email to UCL to see if they can wave this condition. You should be aware that they will likely tell you that you need to retake the test, unless you have a very good reason not to do so (e.g. that there are no available dates, you need to apply for a visa, etc). I would also suggest to call them to discuss about this matter being this a good chance to prove your speaking skills to the Admissions Office (as you failed to obtain the required score in this specific section).

By the way, did you practice the speaking test? You obtained a good score in the other subtests (specially writing, as it is not easy to get a 7!) but a 6 in the speaking section is surprisingly low. It seems to me that you did not practice enough for this section, but I am confident that if you do so before retaking the test you will easily get above 7 (you should look for actual test videos in youtube and cue cards in google to practice with someone before retaking the test).

I do not know if you noticed but if you had achieved 6.5 in the speaking section you would have ended up with an overall score of 7.5 and with the minimum required by UCL for the speaking section (maybe you can mention this in your email to UCL, as you failed to obtain the required score by a very small margin).

Best of luck!
[quote]I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?[/quote]

Hi rainmaker,

I don't think that they will accept a waiver as you did not obtain the required overall score. I understand that in some exceptional cases they may accept your score if you fail to achieve the minimum score in one of the subtest, provided you do get the overall score they require. However, you do not lose anything by asking, so I would recommend you to send an email to UCL to see if they can wave this condition. You should be aware that they will likely tell you that you need to retake the test, unless you have a very good reason not to do so (e.g. that there are no available dates, you need to apply for a visa, etc). I would also suggest to call them to discuss about this matter being this a good chance to prove your speaking skills to the Admissions Office (as you failed to obtain the required score in this specific section).

By the way, did you practice the speaking test? You obtained a good score in the other subtests (specially writing, as it is not easy to get a 7!) but a 6 in the speaking section is surprisingly low. It seems to me that you did not practice enough for this section, but I am confident that if you do so before retaking the test you will easily get above 7 (you should look for actual test videos in youtube and cue cards in google to practice with someone before retaking the test).

I do not know if you noticed but if you had achieved 6.5 in the speaking section you would have ended up with an overall score of 7.5 and with the minimum required by UCL for the speaking section (maybe you can mention this in your email to UCL, as you failed to obtain the required score by a very small margin).

Best of luck!
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Mombastic
I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?


Hi rainmaker,

I don't think that they will accept a waiver as you did not obtain the required overall score. I understand that in some exceptional cases they may accept your score if you fail to achieve the minimum score in one of the subtest, provided you do get the overall score they require. However, you do not lose anything by asking, so I would recommend you to send an email to UCL to see if they can wave this condition. You should be aware that they will likely tell you that you need to retake the test, unless you have a very good reason not to do so (e.g. that there are no available dates, you need to apply for a visa, etc). I would also suggest to call them to discuss about this matter being this a good chance to prove your speaking skills to the Admissions Office (as you failed to obtain the required score in this specific section).

By the way, did you practice the speaking test? You obtained a good score in the other subtests (specially writing, as it is not easy to get a 7!) but a 6 in the speaking section is surprisingly low. It seems to me that you did not practice enough for this section, but I am confident that if you do so before retaking the test you will easily get above 7 (you should look for actual test videos in youtube and cue cards in google to practice with someone before retaking the test).

I do not know if you noticed but if you had achieved 6.5 in the speaking section you would have ended up with an overall score of 7.5 and with the minimum required by UCL for the speaking section (maybe you can mention this in your email to UCL, as you failed to obtain the required score by a very small margin).

Best of luck!


Anyways what I realised about these English tests is that they are quite a waste of money. Speaking from personal experience, the level of English deployed by staying in the UK is far more better. It's just a way to make sure people can at least speak two words.
[quote][quote]I got a conditional offer from UCL. ]

I took an IELTS test and got overall 7.0 (Listening 8, Reading 7.5, Writing 7.0 and Speaking 6.0). Is there any chance for a waiver?[/quote]

Hi rainmaker,

I don't think that they will accept a waiver as you did not obtain the required overall score. I understand that in some exceptional cases they may accept your score if you fail to achieve the minimum score in one of the subtest, provided you do get the overall score they require. However, you do not lose anything by asking, so I would recommend you to send an email to UCL to see if they can wave this condition. You should be aware that they will likely tell you that you need to retake the test, unless you have a very good reason not to do so (e.g. that there are no available dates, you need to apply for a visa, etc). I would also suggest to call them to discuss about this matter being this a good chance to prove your speaking skills to the Admissions Office (as you failed to obtain the required score in this specific section).

By the way, did you practice the speaking test? You obtained a good score in the other subtests (specially writing, as it is not easy to get a 7!) but a 6 in the speaking section is surprisingly low. It seems to me that you did not practice enough for this section, but I am confident that if you do so before retaking the test you will easily get above 7 (you should look for actual test videos in youtube and cue cards in google to practice with someone before retaking the test).

I do not know if you noticed but if you had achieved 6.5 in the speaking section you would have ended up with an overall score of 7.5 and with the minimum required by UCL for the speaking section (maybe you can mention this in your email to UCL, as you failed to obtain the required score by a very small margin).

Best of luck![/quote]

Anyways what I realised about these English tests is that they are quite a waste of money. Speaking from personal experience, the level of English deployed by staying in the UK is far more better. It's just a way to make sure people can at least speak two words.
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Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now.
Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now.
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LegalLife
Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now.


The reason why universities insist on you getting the minimun required is because Home Office requires a certain level of English comprehension before you are granted a UKVI Tier 4 visa. I suspect that UCL will not be able to offer you an exemption just because you have failed the test twice. If anything it may worry them about your English capabilities. You may want to retake the test again.
[quote]Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now. [/quote]

The reason why universities insist on you getting the minimun required is because Home Office requires a certain level of English comprehension before you are granted a UKVI Tier 4 visa. I suspect that UCL will not be able to offer you an exemption just because you have failed the test twice. If anything it may worry them about your English capabilities. You may want to retake the test again.
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Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now.


First of all congrats for your offer!

In relation to your IELTS score, I would suggest you to call the Admission's Office to discuss this matter and find out if it is possible to waive the minimum score required for the writing section. In the email you sent you should have mentioned the reasons that support your requirement (e.g. if you need to apply for a visa and therefore you need to receive your CAS soon, if there are no available dates to retake the test, etc), as otherwise it will probably be rejected.

I have just checked the minimum score required for the Tier 4 Visa and you should not worry about that as the minimum they require is just 5.5 (Tier 4 Visa, B2).
https://www.ielts.org/what-is-ielts/ielts-for-migration/united-kingdom/ielts-used-for-uk-visa-applications

In any case, I would recommend you to take a course before flying to London to improve your English (which is good!), since I noted some minor mistakes in your post and normally LLMs require you to write many essays!:
E.g. "I just send an email and ask them for an exception" should be "I just sent an email and asked them for an exception". Errors like these make you lose points in the IELTS test, so you should be careful with these.

I strongly recommend you to check this website which has many IELTS writing samples that were corrected by a teacher.
http://www.ielts-blog.com/ielts-writing-samples/ielts-essays-band-7/ielts-essay-topic-popular-events/

Best of luck!
[quote]Hi Rainmaker!

I got a conditional offer from UCL. In the 1st attempt, UCL admission asked me to retake the test since I got an overall of 7.5 BUT I got 6.0 in writing and as per UCL's regulation, they want a minimum of 6.5/section with an overall of 7.5.

Then, I took another IELTS test and the result is the same! I got 6.0 in writing and 7.5 overall score. I just send an email and ask them for an exception since I've taken the test twice, yet the result is the same. Sadly :(

Praying for a miracle now. [/quote]

First of all congrats for your offer!

In relation to your IELTS score, I would suggest you to call the Admission's Office to discuss this matter and find out if it is possible to waive the minimum score required for the writing section. In the email you sent you should have mentioned the reasons that support your requirement (e.g. if you need to apply for a visa and therefore you need to receive your CAS soon, if there are no available dates to retake the test, etc), as otherwise it will probably be rejected.

I have just checked the minimum score required for the Tier 4 Visa and you should not worry about that as the minimum they require is just 5.5 (Tier 4 Visa, B2).
https://www.ielts.org/what-is-ielts/ielts-for-migration/united-kingdom/ielts-used-for-uk-visa-applications

In any case, I would recommend you to take a course before flying to London to improve your English (which is good!), since I noted some minor mistakes in your post and normally LLMs require you to write many essays!:
E.g. "I just send an email and ask them for an exception" should be "I just sent an email and asked them for an exception". Errors like these make you lose points in the IELTS test, so you should be careful with these.

I strongly recommend you to check this website which has many IELTS writing samples that were corrected by a teacher.
http://www.ielts-blog.com/ielts-writing-samples/ielts-essays-band-7/ielts-essay-topic-popular-events/

Best of luck!
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