Oxford MJur or Cambridge LLM?


Hi guys. I have just got offers from both Oxford MJur and Cambridge LLM, and it's quite hard for me to decide where to go. Does anyone has any suggestions? Or could anyone shed light on the differences between these two programs?(e.g. Reputation, teaching methods etc.) Also, how much influence does the college have when doing a graduate study in Oxbridge? Please give me some advice, thank you all very much! I wish the very best luck to you all!
Hi guys. I have just got offers from both Oxford MJur and Cambridge LLM, and it's quite hard for me to decide where to go. Does anyone has any suggestions? Or could anyone shed light on the differences between these two programs?(e.g. Reputation, teaching methods etc.) Also, how much influence does the college have when doing a graduate study in Oxbridge? Please give me some advice, thank you all very much! I wish the very best luck to you all!
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lucasbbc
I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks!
I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks!
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Harvey Spe...
Me too, although I do not know the outcome of my MJur application yet.
Me too, although I do not know the outcome of my MJur application yet.
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Ribben
I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks!


Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).
[quote]I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks![/quote]

Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).
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AdmissionL...
I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks!


Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).


at least when you come from the EU, it should be the other way around
[quote][quote]I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks![/quote]

Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).[/quote]

at least when you come from the EU, it should be the other way around
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LegalLife
The Mjur caters for students from a civil law background. The LLM caters for both civil and common law.

Oxford and Cambridge are both prestigious universities; you cannot go wrong.

Colleges at graduate level are only for accomodation and socialising. Their role is so different from the role of colleges at undergrad. So to me, college added nothing academically. But it added to my social life and my networking.

My advice is that you look at the modules on offer for both courses and see what interests you. That will help you determine what to choose.
The Mjur caters for students from a civil law background. The LLM caters for both civil and common law.

Oxford and Cambridge are both prestigious universities; you cannot go wrong.

Colleges at graduate level are only for accomodation and socialising. Their role is so different from the role of colleges at undergrad. So to me, college added nothing academically. But it added to my social life and my networking.

My advice is that you look at the modules on offer for both courses and see what interests you. That will help you determine what to choose.
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aiges
Also, keep in mind that Oxford offers its famous tutorial system to BCL/MJur students while Cambridge does not offer tutorials to LLM students.
Also, keep in mind that Oxford offers its famous tutorial system to BCL/MJur students while Cambridge does not offer tutorials to LLM students.
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VisionMed
Well...

[Edited by VisionMed on Jul 12, 2018]

Well...
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AdmissionL...


Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).


at least when you come from the EU, it should be the other way around


Why do you say this?


Ox 22k C 26,5k
[quote][quote][quote][quote]I have the same doubt for this year!
Could anyone help?

Thanks![/quote]

Well the Oxford program is considerably more expensive- around 6000 pounds (because of college fee and higher tuition fee).[/quote]

at least when you come from the EU, it should be the other way around[/quote]

Why do you say this?[/quote]

Ox 22k C 26,5k
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Ribben


Ox 22k C 26,5k


Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.
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Ox 22k C 26,5k[/quote]

Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.
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AdmissionL...


Ox 22k C 26,5k


Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.


It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?

https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/courses/magister-juris?wssl=1 (funding and costs)

vs

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/directory/lwlwllll/finance

[Edited by AdmissionLLM on Feb 15, 2018]

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Ox 22k C 26,5k[/quote]

Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.[/quote]

It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?

https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/courses/magister-juris?wssl=1 (funding and costs)

vs

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/directory/lwlwllll/finance
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kubus


Ox 22k C 26,5k


Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.


It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?

https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/courses/magister-juris?wssl=1 (funding and costs)

vs

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/directory/lwlwllll/finance[/quote]

Dude, the 26,5k include 10k estimated living expenses. Is it really that hard to read the page carefully? ;)
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Ox 22k C 26,5k[/quote]

Don't understand where you get those numbers from. Just look at the tuition fees. Also Cambridge, unlike Oxford, does not charge a separate college fee.[/quote]

It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?

https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/graduate/courses/magister-juris?wssl=1 (funding and costs)

vs

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/directory/lwlwllll/finance[/quote]

Dude, the 26,5k include 10k estimated living expenses. Is it really that hard to read the page carefully? ;)
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Ribben

It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?


Don't mind about googling the numbers, how about you actually try to understand them? Let me break it down for you so that you understand:

For Oxford, you need to pay £18,620 as tuition fee PLUS a college fee of £3,112, totalling £21,732 annual fees to be paid. Cambridge on the other hand only asks for a tuition fee of £15,810, without there being a seperate college fee.

That means there is a difference of almost £6,000 between the Oxford and Cambridge programs just on fees alone.

As stated on the Oxford website: "Each college charges a fee that is separate from, and in addition to, the University tuition fee. This college fee covers academic facilities and other services that are provided by your college, it does not include accommodation or meals.". That means you need to pay accommodation ON TOP of the 21k they ask as annual fee. The link you provided for for Cambridge actually makes an estimate of 10k costs INCLUDING ACCOMMODATION. That would mean that an entire year of Cambridge, tuition plus accommodation and living expenses, is estimated at around £26,500, whereas the tuition and college fee in Oxford ALONE already account for £21,732. On the Oxford website it states that you need at least £1000 minimum a month to cover accommodation and living expenses. Since the MJur program is 10 months (whereas the Cambridge program btw is only 9), that means that you need to add an EXTRA £10,000 ON TOP OF the £21,732 totalling a MINIMUM of around £32,000. Compare that with Cambridge's £26,465.

Do you understand it now? Was it that hard googling the numbers?
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It it really that hard to google these numbers yourself?[/quote]

Don't mind about googling the numbers, how about you actually try to understand them? Let me break it down for you so that you understand:

For Oxford, you need to pay £18,620 as tuition fee PLUS a college fee of £3,112, totalling £21,732 annual fees to be paid. Cambridge on the other hand only asks for a tuition fee of £15,810, without there being a seperate college fee.

That means there is a difference of almost £6,000 between the Oxford and Cambridge programs just on fees alone.

As stated on the Oxford website: "Each college charges a fee that is separate from, and in addition to, the University tuition fee. This college fee covers academic facilities and other services that are provided by your college, it does not include accommodation or meals.". That means you need to pay accommodation ON TOP of the 21k they ask as annual fee. The link you provided for for Cambridge actually makes an estimate of 10k costs INCLUDING ACCOMMODATION. That would mean that an entire year of Cambridge, tuition plus accommodation and living expenses, is estimated at around £26,500, whereas the tuition and college fee in Oxford ALONE already account for £21,732. On the Oxford website it states that you need at least £1000 minimum a month to cover accommodation and living expenses. Since the MJur program is 10 months (whereas the Cambridge program btw is only 9), that means that you need to add an EXTRA £10,000 ON TOP OF the £21,732 totalling a MINIMUM of around £32,000. Compare that with Cambridge's £26,465.

Do you understand it now? Was it that hard googling the numbers?
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AdmissionL...
Do you understand it now?


In fact, I seem to have looked too briefly. But fortunately there are people like you who take their time for me, so I don't have to do it. Thank you :p
[quote]Do you understand it now? [/quote]

In fact, I seem to have looked too briefly. But fortunately there are people like you who take their time for me, so I don't have to do it. Thank you :p
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Harvey Spe...
Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude.
Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude.
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Ribben
Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude.


This. Although to be honest I find that unfounded arrogance is something you do see now and then amongst law students.
[quote]Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude. [/quote]

This. Although to be honest I find that unfounded arrogance is something you do see now and then amongst law students.
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Phoenix
Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude.


This. Although to be honest I find that unfounded arrogance is something you do see now and then amongst law students.


Well said Ribben. Arrogance will get you nothing but hatred!
[quote][quote]Next time look more thoroughly if you decide to post.

And instead of being arrogant with others who take the time to correct you, rethink whether you are a good fit for these programmes with such a superficial attitude. [/quote]

This. Although to be honest I find that unfounded arrogance is something you do see now and then amongst law students. [/quote]

Well said Ribben. Arrogance will get you nothing but hatred!
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