Should we open a FaceBook group or something like that to communicate that way?
who all are applying for MIDS GENEVA 2017-2018?
Posted Apr 02, 2017 19:23
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Should we open a FaceBook group or something like that to communicate that way?
Posted Apr 02, 2017 19:29
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Should we open a FaceBook group or something like that to communicate that way?
I am totally up for it:) if I correctly understood, last year MIDS created a facebook group itself. Just in case here is my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/trakhalina?ref=bookmarks
[quote]Should we open a FaceBook group or something like that to communicate that way?
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I am totally up for it:) if I correctly understood, last year MIDS created a facebook group itself. Just in case here is my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/trakhalina?ref=bookmarks
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I am totally up for it:) if I correctly understood, last year MIDS created a facebook group itself. Just in case here is my facebook page https://www.facebook.com/trakhalina?ref=bookmarks
Posted Apr 03, 2017 10:47
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Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Posted Apr 03, 2017 11:28
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Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[quote]Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
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Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
Posted Apr 04, 2017 09:31
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I regret applying to ICAL. Missed the deadline. Though application is still open till 14 April. Any idea if they entertain application for Int. students ? they have not expressly said not advised to apply by 20 Jan.
Further any views on Sciences Pro Paris ?
I am in the waiting list of MIDS and now planning to apply to other good arb courses which i missed earlier
I regret applying to ICAL. Missed the deadline. Though application is still open till 14 April. Any idea if they entertain application for Int. students ? they have not expressly said not advised to apply by 20 Jan.
Further any views on Sciences Pro Paris ?
I am in the waiting list of MIDS and now planning to apply to other good arb courses which i missed earlier
Further any views on Sciences Pro Paris ?
I am in the waiting list of MIDS and now planning to apply to other good arb courses which i missed earlier
Posted Apr 04, 2017 11:33
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Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
[Edited by emt21 on Apr 04, 2017]
[quote][quote]Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
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Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
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Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
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Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
Posted Apr 04, 2017 11:52
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Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
[quote][quote][quote]Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[/quote]
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[/quote]
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
Posted Apr 04, 2017 12:17
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Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it!
[quote][quote][quote][quote]Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[/quote]
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
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Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[/quote]
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
[/quote]
Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it!
Posted Apr 04, 2017 13:54
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Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though!
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it!
They recognized that both programs are well-regarded programs, but all recommended ICAL knowning that my intention to practice commericial arbitration afterwards. I quote one of the senior lawyers words for your reference. "Hard choice for you, but on balance I think that Stockholm has the best reputation and good connections for jobs for their LLM graduates."
Hope that helps.
[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Hi everyone!
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
[/quote]
Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
[/quote]
Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
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Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it![/quote]
They recognized that both programs are well-regarded programs, but all recommended ICAL knowning that my intention to practice commericial arbitration afterwards. I quote one of the senior lawyers words for your reference. "Hard choice for you, but on balance I think that Stockholm has the best reputation and good connections for jobs for their LLM graduates."
Hope that helps.
Somebody else is struggling to decide between ICAL and MIDS? It would be great the hear your thoughts about it!
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Congrats! Reputation wise, from what I have gathered so far, ICAL has a stronger reputation in the field of international commercial arbitration. Led by vice chairperson of SCC, ICAL is very well regarded in the community of international commercial arbitration. All the arbitration lawyers I have asked recommended ICAL over MIDS.
It seems MIDS has a better reputation in continental Europe, especially in Swissland, France, Germany and Austria. But outside Europe, not that many people have heard of it (especially East Aisa I would say, coz I am from there haha). If you want to find a job in these countries, MIDS might be a better choice.
Course wise, MIDS covers courses other than commercial arbitration, like WTO, investment arbitration. If you are interested in public international law definitely go to MIDS. Naturally, it offers more job opportunities in those areas. But if you have determined to pursue your career in commercial arbitration like I have, ICAL might be a better choice.
I am not sure if cost is a concern to you, but MIDS is a lot more expensive than ICAL, even with scholarship.
In the end, like one of the MIDS candidates shared with me, it is all about your end point: what kind of job you want to do afterward, where do you want to work. I guess there is no right or wrong answer here, only the choice that suits your end point.
Happy to discuss more and would love to hear your thoughts. (I saw your message to me, but I think it might benefit more people if we just discuss here :))
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Absolutely! Let's talk here so that everybody can share its opinion.
I completely agree with all you have said.
The only "problem" that I see with ICAL is that the MIDS seems to have a better reputation within law firms arround Europe. In their broachure they quote the top-ranked law firms which hire people from the MIDS. Also, there are some forums and meetings to network with such firms. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think one can be more confident on his possibilities to enter a great law firm in Paris or London with a MIDS LLM that with an ICAL LLM.
This is my only concern with the programme though![/quote]
I have to say, in term of presenting the programs to prospective candidates, MIDS did a better job. They even have annual reports and brochures recording graduates' employment status. When I was researching these two programs by myself, It did give me an impression that it has a better reputation. That was the reason for my struggle in the first place. But after talking to some arbitration practitioners, my concern was relieved. I guess ICAL needs to work on its presentation in its website hahah.
[/quote]
Hahaha absolutely! So those practitioners you talked to think that when applying for a job, both will have a similar recongnition, isn't it?
And in addition the ICAL programme seems to be more practise-oriented.
Thank you for sharing it![/quote]
They recognized that both programs are well-regarded programs, but all recommended ICAL knowning that my intention to practice commericial arbitration afterwards. I quote one of the senior lawyers words for your reference. "Hard choice for you, but on balance I think that Stockholm has the best reputation and good connections for jobs for their LLM graduates."
Hope that helps.
Posted Apr 04, 2017 18:03
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Hi guys!
Hope you are doing well and enjoying these stress free days since admissions were released. I wanted to mentioned that I know attorneys that went both to Stockholm and to the MIDS. All of them speak really highly of their respective programs; however, it is worth noticing that while all of the people that attended the MIDS find really good jobs at renown law firms, the people from Stockholm did not find positions after their LL.M. I do not know what’s reason behind this (maybe the people from Stockholm did not search hard enough, or did not networked enough) but I just wanted to let you know.
Warm regards,
Hi guys!
Hope you are doing well and enjoying these stress free days since admissions were released. I wanted to mentioned that I know attorneys that went both to Stockholm and to the MIDS. All of them speak really highly of their respective programs; however, it is worth noticing that while all of the people that attended the MIDS find really good jobs at renown law firms, the people from Stockholm did not find positions after their LL.M. I do not know what’s reason behind this (maybe the people from Stockholm did not search hard enough, or did not networked enough) but I just wanted to let you know.
Warm regards,
Hope you are doing well and enjoying these stress free days since admissions were released. I wanted to mentioned that I know attorneys that went both to Stockholm and to the MIDS. All of them speak really highly of their respective programs; however, it is worth noticing that while all of the people that attended the MIDS find really good jobs at renown law firms, the people from Stockholm did not find positions after their LL.M. I do not know what’s reason behind this (maybe the people from Stockholm did not search hard enough, or did not networked enough) but I just wanted to let you know.
Warm regards,
Posted Apr 06, 2017 10:11
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Hi everyone!
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...
Hi everyone!
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...
Posted Apr 06, 2017 10:18
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Hi everyone!
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...
Yeah, deadline is tmr and I still can't decide haha.
[quote]Hi everyone!
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...[/quote]
Yeah, deadline is tmr and I still can't decide haha.
I have read all your comments about the comparison between MIDS and ICAL~ Very useful !
Thank you!~ (but still hard to make a decision...[/quote]
Yeah, deadline is tmr and I still can't decide haha.
Posted Apr 06, 2017 12:53
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Is the last day to accept is today or 14?
Is the last day to accept is today or 14?
Posted Apr 06, 2017 13:58
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I think the deadline is 14 April~ but we can reply our decision from 7 April
I think the deadline is 14 April~ but we can reply our decision from 7 April
Posted Apr 06, 2017 14:05
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"Please let us know as soon as possible, and in any event no later than 14 April, whether you intend to accept our offer of admission. In order to do so, please fill in the admission form that you will receive on 7 April together with the scholarship communication."
"Please let us know as soon as possible, and in any event no later than 14 April, whether you intend to accept our offer of admission. In order to do so, please fill in the admission form that you will receive on 7 April together with the scholarship communication."
Posted Apr 06, 2017 14:06
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But the deadline for ICAL is 12 April..
But the deadline for ICAL is 12 April..
Posted Apr 06, 2017 14:15
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After the Scholarship results, the candidates will have the option to decide. Still no clue on how many are kept on waiting list ?
After the Scholarship results, the candidates will have the option to decide. Still no clue on how many are kept on waiting list ?
Posted Apr 06, 2017 20:51
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Best of luck to all the people that applied for the scholarships! Hope you get good news tomorrow!
Best of luck to all the people that applied for the scholarships! Hope you get good news tomorrow!
Posted Apr 07, 2017 09:56
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When deciding between MIDS and ICAL, the decisive factors were 1) besides MIDS' reputation I think they have a very strong alumni network 2) it is a program under the auspices of the graduate instiute for development studies,and that is a line I would follow, especially in the area of investment law and energy 3) it concentrates more on the French arbitration thought than the English one, and my second foreign language is French, although MIDS should include classes dedicated to the English Arbitration Act. 4) I would definitely try to continue and do a phD at Geneva University 5) I personally don't feel like doing a LLM exclusively in commercial arbitration,I dont think its worth putting all my eggs in one basket, and MIDS offers a good combination of both commercial and investment arbitration. 6) I am from south Eastern Europe, so a strong LLM in arbitration from switzerland is much appreciated.
hope these thoughts contribute a bit to the debate, although the best advice in this case would be to think and see where you see yourself in 3-5 years.
I am waiting for the scholarship also, so best of luck to us all!
When deciding between MIDS and ICAL, the decisive factors were 1) besides MIDS' reputation I think they have a very strong alumni network 2) it is a program under the auspices of the graduate instiute for development studies,and that is a line I would follow, especially in the area of investment law and energy 3) it concentrates more on the French arbitration thought than the English one, and my second foreign language is French, although MIDS should include classes dedicated to the English Arbitration Act. 4) I would definitely try to continue and do a phD at Geneva University 5) I personally don't feel like doing a LLM exclusively in commercial arbitration,I dont think its worth putting all my eggs in one basket, and MIDS offers a good combination of both commercial and investment arbitration. 6) I am from south Eastern Europe, so a strong LLM in arbitration from switzerland is much appreciated.
hope these thoughts contribute a bit to the debate, although the best advice in this case would be to think and see where you see yourself in 3-5 years.
I am waiting for the scholarship also, so best of luck to us all!
hope these thoughts contribute a bit to the debate, although the best advice in this case would be to think and see where you see yourself in 3-5 years.
I am waiting for the scholarship also, so best of luck to us all!
Posted Apr 07, 2017 13:04
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Hi there! Any news on scholarships so far?
Hi there! Any news on scholarships so far?
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