LLM in the international taxation


MiKal

Hi, everyone,

So, is anyone going to any of the discussed international tax programmes? Vienna, Leiden, Tilburg?


I'm a Swiss lawyer planning to apply to all these schools next year. Please keep us updated about your experience!

<blockquote>Hi, everyone,

So, is anyone going to any of the discussed international tax programmes? Vienna, Leiden, Tilburg?</blockquote>

I'm a Swiss lawyer planning to apply to all these schools next year. Please keep us updated about your experience!
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odinzs

Hi,

I will try and answer your questions. Before applying to the ETC, I have been studying tax law at Tilburg University, graduating on an International Tax Law topic in a project which involved both Tilburg University and K.U. Leuven. Therefore, I had already experienced part of the Tilburg and Leuven way of approaching European and international tax law issues. I personally believe the combination of theory (i.e. comparison of tax systems and approaches, establishing differences and similarities in order to determine what issues arise in international practice and subsequently what solutions are possible) and practice (theory is always backed up with practical cases discussed by leading practitioners from around the world) provides for expertise in either practice or science. One of the main features of the ETC which I found very valuable is that professors and practitioners are flown in from different countries in order to address the tax aspects of their own countries. Therefore, the knowledge provided is first-hand.
Concerning the job opportunities, I believe the fact that PricewaterhouseCoopers sponsors the ETC indicates that ETC students are well appreciated by large law or advisory firms. Also, since practitioners from different firms are flown in to teach in the college, you build up a strong network, allowing you to easily come in contact with potential employers.

I hope this has answered your questions.

Kind regards,

MvH


Hi MvH,

It seems that you are taking the ETC course presently. Can you share on the experience in the course, the class size and the job prospects after the LLM. Does Tilburg or Leuven provide any assistance in finding jobs? Is there any op to do an internship?
Also could you elaborate on the connection between ETC and PriceWaterhouse Coopers? What does it mean by "sponsors"?

Sorry for the questions. I am really considering this course and want to make an informed decision before applying.

Thanks

<blockquote>Hi,

I will try and answer your questions. Before applying to the ETC, I have been studying tax law at Tilburg University, graduating on an International Tax Law topic in a project which involved both Tilburg University and K.U. Leuven. Therefore, I had already experienced part of the Tilburg and Leuven way of approaching European and international tax law issues. I personally believe the combination of theory (i.e. comparison of tax systems and approaches, establishing differences and similarities in order to determine what issues arise in international practice and subsequently what solutions are possible) and practice (theory is always backed up with practical cases discussed by leading practitioners from around the world) provides for expertise in either practice or science. One of the main features of the ETC which I found very valuable is that professors and practitioners are flown in from different countries in order to address the tax aspects of their own countries. Therefore, the knowledge provided is first-hand.
Concerning the job opportunities, I believe the fact that PricewaterhouseCoopers sponsors the ETC indicates that ETC students are well appreciated by large law or advisory firms. Also, since practitioners from different firms are flown in to teach in the college, you build up a strong network, allowing you to easily come in contact with potential employers.

I hope this has answered your questions.

Kind regards,

MvH
</blockquote>

Hi MvH,

It seems that you are taking the ETC course presently. Can you share on the experience in the course, the class size and the job prospects after the LLM. Does Tilburg or Leuven provide any assistance in finding jobs? Is there any op to do an internship?
Also could you elaborate on the connection between ETC and PriceWaterhouse Coopers? What does it mean by "sponsors"?

Sorry for the questions. I am really considering this course and want to make an informed decision before applying.

Thanks
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koudiarov

Some inside. We have one course student at Leiden who graduated from Leuven program. Overall, under her opinion Leuren is good for Belgium oriented tax professional, but international tax aspects are mostly related to the features of the Belgium tax system. The cover of pure international aspects is limited to few weeks with OECD model which is not comparable to 12 weeks course in Leiden. Also, they study EU tax law but I guess everywhere in Europe significant time is spent on this subject.

Hi,

I will try and answer your questions. Before applying to the ETC, I have been studying tax law at Tilburg University, graduating on an International Tax Law topic in a project which involved both Tilburg University and K.U. Leuven. Therefore, I had already experienced part of the Tilburg and Leuven way of approaching European and international tax law issues. I personally believe the combination of theory (i.e. comparison of tax systems and approaches, establishing differences and similarities in order to determine what issues arise in international practice and subsequently what solutions are possible) and practice (theory is always backed up with practical cases discussed by leading practitioners from around the world) provides for expertise in either practice or science. One of the main features of the ETC which I found very valuable is that professors and practitioners are flown in from different countries in order to address the tax aspects of their own countries. Therefore, the knowledge provided is first-hand.
Concerning the job opportunities, I believe the fact that PricewaterhouseCoopers sponsors the ETC indicates that ETC students are well appreciated by large law or advisory firms. Also, since practitioners from different firms are flown in to teach in the college, you build up a strong network, allowing you to easily come in contact with potential employers.

I hope this has answered your questions.

Kind regards,

MvH


Hi MvH,

It seems that you are taking the ETC course presently. Can you share on the experience in the course, the class size and the job prospects after the LLM. Does Tilburg or Leuven provide any assistance in finding jobs? Is there any op to do an internship?
Also could you elaborate on the connection between ETC and PriceWaterhouse Coopers? What does it mean by "sponsors"?

Sorry for the questions. I am really considering this course and want to make an informed decision before applying.

Thanks

Some inside. We have one course student at Leiden who graduated from Leuven program. Overall, under her opinion Leuren is good for Belgium oriented tax professional, but international tax aspects are mostly related to the features of the Belgium tax system. The cover of pure international aspects is limited to few weeks with OECD model which is not comparable to 12 weeks course in Leiden. Also, they study EU tax law but I guess everywhere in Europe significant time is spent on this subject.

<blockquote><blockquote>Hi,

I will try and answer your questions. Before applying to the ETC, I have been studying tax law at Tilburg University, graduating on an International Tax Law topic in a project which involved both Tilburg University and K.U. Leuven. Therefore, I had already experienced part of the Tilburg and Leuven way of approaching European and international tax law issues. I personally believe the combination of theory (i.e. comparison of tax systems and approaches, establishing differences and similarities in order to determine what issues arise in international practice and subsequently what solutions are possible) and practice (theory is always backed up with practical cases discussed by leading practitioners from around the world) provides for expertise in either practice or science. One of the main features of the ETC which I found very valuable is that professors and practitioners are flown in from different countries in order to address the tax aspects of their own countries. Therefore, the knowledge provided is first-hand.
Concerning the job opportunities, I believe the fact that PricewaterhouseCoopers sponsors the ETC indicates that ETC students are well appreciated by large law or advisory firms. Also, since practitioners from different firms are flown in to teach in the college, you build up a strong network, allowing you to easily come in contact with potential employers.

I hope this has answered your questions.

Kind regards,

MvH
</blockquote>

Hi MvH,

It seems that you are taking the ETC course presently. Can you share on the experience in the course, the class size and the job prospects after the LLM. Does Tilburg or Leuven provide any assistance in finding jobs? Is there any op to do an internship?
Also could you elaborate on the connection between ETC and PriceWaterhouse Coopers? What does it mean by "sponsors"?

Sorry for the questions. I am really considering this course and want to make an informed decision before applying.

Thanks </blockquote>
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odinzs

Thanks koudiarov for your comments.

In your opinion, which course in the European Unis would be best for obtaining an education in the international taxation? My sense from the various posts is Leiden and Vienna.
What about Maastricht?

Thanks koudiarov for your comments.

In your opinion, which course in the European Unis would be best for obtaining an education in the international taxation? My sense from the various posts is Leiden and Vienna.
What about Maastricht?
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MarcS

Maastricht differs because of the teaching method: problem based learning. Although the program offers the classical lectures (by faculty as well as by external experts from practice, government and science), the full program is built around real life cases you discuss in small tutorial groups. Therefore you can connect theory and practice more easily. By actively participating in discussions about the legal problems with fellow students and staff you are much more actively involved. In addition you practise debating skills (Maastricht is known for Moot Court wins), team work, inter-cultural communication (students are from all continents) and presentation skills. In short, the program has a clear added value in enhancing your personal employability, not only by knowledge but also by practical skills.

Maastricht differs because of the teaching method: problem based learning. Although the program offers the classical lectures (by faculty as well as by external experts from practice, government and science), the full program is built around real life cases you discuss in small tutorial groups. Therefore you can connect theory and practice more easily. By actively participating in discussions about the legal problems with fellow students and staff you are much more actively involved. In addition you practise debating skills (Maastricht is known for Moot Court wins), team work, inter-cultural communication (students are from all continents) and presentation skills. In short, the program has a clear added value in enhancing your personal employability, not only by knowledge but also by practical skills.
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natesh

Maastricht differs because of the teaching method: problem based learning. Although the program offers the classical lectures (by faculty as well as by external experts from practice, government and science), the full program is built around real life cases you discuss in small tutorial groups. Therefore you can connect theory and practice more easily. By actively participating in discussions about the legal problems with fellow students and staff you are much more actively involved. In addition you practise debating skills (Maastricht is known for Moot Court wins), team work, inter-cultural communication (students are from all continents) and presentation skills. In short, the program has a clear added value in enhancing your personal employability, not only by knowledge but also by practical skills.
hiii


im 17 and i heard about the course on 'The degree of Master of Laws (LL.M.) in Taxation'. im in india and want to join this course...can u suggest me some good universities in vienna which provides me with this course...

<blockquote>Maastricht differs because of the teaching method: problem based learning. Although the program offers the classical lectures (by faculty as well as by external experts from practice, government and science), the full program is built around real life cases you discuss in small tutorial groups. Therefore you can connect theory and practice more easily. By actively participating in discussions about the legal problems with fellow students and staff you are much more actively involved. In addition you practise debating skills (Maastricht is known for Moot Court wins), team work, inter-cultural communication (students are from all continents) and presentation skills. In short, the program has a clear added value in enhancing your personal employability, not only by knowledge but also by practical skills.</blockquote>hiii



im 17 and i heard about the course on 'The degree of Master of Laws (LL.M.) in Taxation'. im in india and want to join this course...can u suggest me some good universities in vienna which provides me with this course...
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Pits

Hi Guys!

Im willing to apply for the LLM programs in Vienna and Leiden full time - 2009/10.

Searching in Vienna's website I could note that there are not many requirements for the application. Could anyone who has been accepted there tell me how this application should be done? It seems to me that there is no need to attach a proof of english skill, nor to send reccomendation letters, is that correct?!

Tks in advance!

Hi Guys!

Im willing to apply for the LLM programs in Vienna and Leiden full time - 2009/10.

Searching in Vienna's website I could note that there are not many requirements for the application. Could anyone who has been accepted there tell me how this application should be done? It seems to me that there is no need to attach a proof of english skill, nor to send reccomendation letters, is that correct?!

Tks in advance!
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barmenator

Guys,

I am looking for a good LLM in International Tax taught in English but in a french/german language speaking country (so not interested in the US nor in England).

I'm looking into Leuven/Tilburg European tax College or the Vienna University, but I can't find any specialized rankings on the web.

Does anybody know which Tax School would be the best?

Guys,

I am looking for a good LLM in International Tax taught in English but in a french/german language speaking country (so not interested in the US nor in England).

I'm looking into Leuven/Tilburg European tax College or the Vienna University, but I can't find any specialized rankings on the web.

Does anybody know which Tax School would be the best?
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migsosa

Sorry, there is not such ranking (specifically for tax law or even general law).
I believe all 3 programs are good. You have to look to other information like the number of academics and external professional participating among their faculty, their reputation within firms (and other employers), the number of students that continues with research, the city, etc.

Regards
Miguel

Sorry, there is not such ranking (specifically for tax law or even general law).
I believe all 3 programs are good. You have to look to other information like the number of academics and external professional participating among their faculty, their reputation within firms (and other employers), the number of students that continues with research, the city, etc.

Regards
Miguel
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barmenator

Thank you Miguel Sosa. Your name sounds very latin. My name is also latin: Luis, and I come from Mexico. Where are you from?

I am now looking at the MAS in International Taxation from the University of Neuchatel in Switzerland. Ever heard of it?

Thank you Miguel Sosa. Your name sounds very latin. My name is also latin: Luis, and I come from Mexico. Where are you from?

I am now looking at the MAS in International Taxation from the University of Neuchatel in Switzerland. Ever heard of it?
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migsosa

Luis,

We are paisanos ... write to me at:

masosa@royalresorts.com

Luis,

We are paisanos ... write to me at:

masosa@royalresorts.com

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barmenator

Ya te mandé correo, paisano.

Mi cuenta es luigidacc@hotmail.com. Si no lo logras ver en tu bandeja revisa tu bandeja de correo no deseado, podría estar en correo basura (spam) porque no me tengas agregado.

Salu2

Ya te mandé correo, paisano.

Mi cuenta es luigidacc@hotmail.com. Si no lo logras ver en tu bandeja revisa tu bandeja de correo no deseado, podría estar en correo basura (spam) porque no me tengas agregado.

Salu2
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Hello everybody, I am a 29 y.o. Italian chartered accountant and I would attend a full-time 1 year course in international taxation in Europe (as soon as possible).
I would do this with the intent to extend my knowledge to international taxation and to find a job outside Italy. I have already sent my application to Queen Mary University in London and I'm taking into consideration other 2 universities: Leiden and Neuchatel. It seems to me that:
- Queen Mary could be the best choice if a a student has the precise idea to find a job in UK once finished, but it is not so clear the schedule of the course and what will be the program during the entire academic year; furthermore it seems to me that the course is not so intense in terms of hours of lesson as the other courses (and this could be the reason why the tuition fee is lower);
- Leiden and Neuchatel seem to be more organized, with more lessons;
- Leiden is the most famous (is it a positive thing, so could I have more employment opportunities once finished? or a negative thing, so it is to inflated and will be hard to find a good position once finished?);
- Neuchatel offers an international or a swiss curriculum and the it is possible to choose between corporate or individual program; this university seems to be more based on pratical cases than Leiden. The LLM course of this university is younger than the same of Leiden and the fact that it is in Switzerland could be an advantage to find a job there once finished even for students coming from abroad ?!;
- Neuchatel does not offer exemptions for the ADIT or ACCA qualification;
- Leiden requires more documentation in the application than Neuchatel, in particular Neuchatel does not requires the recommendation letters (and for me it is a good thing, because I don't want to go to my boss and say: hey, I'm leaving, sign my a paper in which you write that I'm perfect and that you recommend me to the university!);
- Leiden starts in September 2012, Neuchatel in January 2013.
I think that Neuchatel could be the best choice at the moment and the idea to find a job in Switzerland sounds good. What's your opinion?

Hello everybody, I am a 29 y.o. Italian chartered accountant and I would attend a full-time 1 year course in international taxation in Europe (as soon as possible).
I would do this with the intent to extend my knowledge to international taxation and to find a job outside Italy. I have already sent my application to Queen Mary University in London and I'm taking into consideration other 2 universities: Leiden and Neuchatel. It seems to me that:
- Queen Mary could be the best choice if a a student has the precise idea to find a job in UK once finished, but it is not so clear the schedule of the course and what will be the program during the entire academic year; furthermore it seems to me that the course is not so intense in terms of hours of lesson as the other courses (and this could be the reason why the tuition fee is lower);
- Leiden and Neuchatel seem to be more organized, with more lessons;
- Leiden is the most famous (is it a positive thing, so could I have more employment opportunities once finished? or a negative thing, so it is to inflated and will be hard to find a good position once finished?);
- Neuchatel offers an international or a swiss curriculum and the it is possible to choose between corporate or individual program; this university seems to be more based on pratical cases than Leiden. The LLM course of this university is younger than the same of Leiden and the fact that it is in Switzerland could be an advantage to find a job there once finished even for students coming from abroad ?!;
- Neuchatel does not offer exemptions for the ADIT or ACCA qualification;
- Leiden requires more documentation in the application than Neuchatel, in particular Neuchatel does not requires the recommendation letters (and for me it is a good thing, because I don't want to go to my boss and say: hey, I'm leaving, sign my a paper in which you write that I'm perfect and that you recommend me to the university!);
- Leiden starts in September 2012, Neuchatel in January 2013.
I think that Neuchatel could be the best choice at the moment and the idea to find a job in Switzerland sounds good. What's your opinion?
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barmenator

People,

I would like to study a top LLM in International Tax program in Europe (in English language).

It seems Leiden, Vienna and Maastricht are the 3 preeminent choices.

Tuition fees and geographical location are not important.

Are there any substantial differences in Faculty, lectures, classes, or teaching method among the 3?

Which degree is better valued/known by employers and HR?

Which has better job placement upon graduation in Big4, BigLaw, or Magic Circle?

Which degree is most recognized by the Academia for pursuing PhD?

Any input will be greatly appreciated!

People,

I would like to study a top LLM in International Tax program in Europe (in English language).

It seems Leiden, Vienna and Maastricht are the 3 preeminent choices.

Tuition fees and geographical location are not important.

Are there any substantial differences in Faculty, lectures, classes, or teaching method among the 3?

Which degree is better valued/known by employers and HR?

Which has better job placement upon graduation in Big4, BigLaw, or Magic Circle?

Which degree is most recognized by the Academia for pursuing PhD?

Any input will be greatly appreciated!
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skli

Following up on the main conversation, are their job opportunities in Netherlands after LLM in International tax from Leiden, if one goes for this course directly after graduation?

Following up on the main conversation, are their job opportunities in Netherlands after LLM in International tax from Leiden, if one goes for this course directly after graduation?
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vishesh

On a separate note, does any one know of the last date by which the ITC faculty usually informs the applicants of their decision on the application. ?

I am based in India and have submitted the application in early January for the Leiden Adv LLM in International Tax.

Thanks

On a separate note, does any one know of the last date by which the ITC faculty usually informs the applicants of their decision on the application. ?

I am based in India and have submitted the application in early January for the Leiden Adv LLM in International Tax.

Thanks
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barmenator

Does any one know of the last date by which the ITC faculty usually informs the applicants of their decision on the application? I have submitted the application in early January for the Leiden Adv LLM in International Tax.


Check their website! All such info is detailed there.

<blockquote> Does any one know of the last date by which the ITC faculty usually informs the applicants of their decision on the application? I have submitted the application in early January for the Leiden Adv LLM in International Tax.</blockquote>

Check their website! All such info is detailed there.
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Hi,

Any of you have studied the presessioal course of english for 1 month in Leiden? I would like to know how difficult is to approve this course, or if it is better to retake the toefl to get 100.

I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.

I will really appreciate your comments so much.

Thanks,

Hi,

Any of you have studied the presessioal course of english for 1 month in Leiden? I would like to know how difficult is to approve this course, or if it is better to retake the toefl to get 100.

I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.

I will really appreciate your comments so much.

Thanks,

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AleksLLM


I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.

Hi Tax lawyer
congratulations on your acceptance to the program.
Could you please share when did you apply and when have you received the answer.
The office answered couple times about how busy they are these days explaining this way the delay, and yet there are people here on the forum who keep receiving their decisions...

<blockquote>
I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.
</blockquote>
Hi Tax lawyer
congratulations on your acceptance to the program.
Could you please share when did you apply and when have you received the answer.
The office answered couple times about how busy they are these days explaining this way the delay, and yet there are people here on the forum who keep receiving their decisions...
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barmenator

I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.


If you are required to take, pay and approve a pre-sessional English course, you have not yet been unconditionally admitted, but rather admitted upon your fulfillment of the above condition.

Unconditional admission = NO pre-sessionals required

<blockquote> I have been unconditionally admitted in adv llm international tax law, but as I have a toefl score slightly below 100, I have been also admitted to study this presessional course, but I do not know how is it. I suppose I have to approve this course before being able to start the master.
<blockquote>

If you are required to take, pay and approve a pre-sessional English course, you have not yet been unconditionally admitted, but rather admitted upon your fulfillment of the above condition.

Unconditional admission = NO pre-sessionals required
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