Hello :)

I recently graduated from a UK university with an LLB Bachelor of Laws and am interested in applying for the LLM Business Law for foreign lawyers at Paris 1 Pantheon-Sorbonne. From my understanding, in France, an LLM does not constitute a Masters 1 or 2, however, I was wondering if anyone knows whether it is equivalent to an LLM in the UK?

Thanks in advance

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I recently graduated from a UK university with an LLB Bachelor of Laws and am interested in applying for the LLM Business Law for foreign lawyers at Paris 1 Pantheon-Sorbonne. From my understanding, in France, an LLM does not constitute a Masters 1 or 2, however, I was wondering if anyone knows whether it is equivalent to an LLM in the UK?<br>
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Thanks in advance [/quote]<br><br>Dear mouzzi99,<div><br></div><div>please take your time to read: https://www.universite-paris-saclay.fr/en/study/french-higher-education-system in the first instance.</div><div><br></div><div>Then, you mentioned that an LL.M. does not equal a Master 1 / Master 2 under the French system. However, this is exactly the case.</div><div><br></div><div>In Europe, very few systems can actually confer a LL.M. (Master of Laws; Magister Legum or MJur, etc...). France does not offer/confer any "LL.M." degrees (and does not in any form whatsoever, such as the titles/degrees mentioned above).</div><div><br></div><div>In terms of pure law-school "graduate" degrees, you have the Master 1 (formerly called maîtrise) and Master 2.</div><div><br></div><div>People will argue that only both constitute a "Master's Degree", but that is nonsense.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>As their name suggest, the Master 2 follows the Master 1. In reality, the difference is that your Master 1 is still rather a general-oriented program, while the Master 2 is the "real" "graduate" degree (often more specialized and super selective).</div><div><br></div><div>More importantly, if you are referring to : https://www.pantheonsorbonne.fr/ufr/eds-departement-droit-iec/llm-du/sorbonne-llm-business-law-for-foreign-lawyers/ then please beware and read the fine print, quote "This diploma is a « Diplôme d’Université (DU) » according to French academic criteria. It benefits from a national recognition but does not constitute a Master 1 or Master 2.".</div><div><br></div><div>A DU is literally, a "certificate". They mention "national recognition", but using this term here is wrong. These "diplomas" are simply certificates and are not regarded in the same way as a "real" degree. Often, these DU are undertaken by students while they undergo their regular L-M-D track (see first link).&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I'm actually shocked that they call it an LL.M. and only give you the lowest-class "paper" you can obtain in the country. It's really a shame. Please note that I always recommend, if you really want to study in France, to triple-check when a university claims it is offering an LL.M. : there is no LL.M. in France! They can however, call it like that an confer you the degree of Master 1 AND/OR Master 2 (usually only one of the two). It is therefore of the highest importance, that you e-mail any university that does not explicitly discloses what type of recognized diploma you will be getting at the end of your studies.</div><div><br></div><div>Again, for the so called "SORBONNE LL.M. BUSINESS LAW FOR FOREIGN LAWYERS", it is neither a Master 1 or Master 2, which therefore, in my opinion, is absolutely not and under no circumstances whatsoever, worth doing. At that price (6.000€), it is absolutely outrageous that you are merely getting a certificate (diplôme universitaire). I know the name is confusing, but it is really not a diploma per se.</div><div><br></div><div>Disclaimer: by the time someone reads this, this information might be incorrect. Therefore, make sure to do your own due-diligence and double-check the facts.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>UnleashedSoul</div>