Bucerius MLB 2010/11

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Posted Apr 24, 2010 21:35

Lucrecia_Ska: that's exactly what I meant. Thanks for clarifying that for me. When you say "the market is pretty bad here" do you mean the U.S. or Germany?

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Lucrecia_S...

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Posted Apr 24, 2010 21:52

Hi Bloomberg,

I mean in the US. I am currently studying an LL.M. at UC Berkeley and even for american students of the top 10 law schools is very difficult to find a job after they graduate.

Have you been accepted at the MLB program of Bucerius/WHU this year?

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marko f

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Posted Apr 24, 2010 22:20

thanks, so you mean
civil law degree + mlb or llm = yes to Germany bar exam ??
Which LLM can be used in multiple countries ?

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Bloomberg

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Posted Apr 25, 2010 01:38

Lucrecia_Ska : Yes, I have been accepted, but haven't made the deposit yet. Still trying to decide between staying in the U.S. or going to Hamburg. I'm not exactly sure about my prospects post Bucerius.
That really says a lot about the state of the economy if even Berkeley graduates can't get a job. That's why I think it might be safer for me to stick to IT (mixed with econ) which is what I'm currently in. The IT field hasn't been hit as hard.

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sascha_awa...

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Posted Apr 25, 2010 06:57

thanks, so you mean
civil law degree + mlb or llm = yes to Germany bar exam ??
Which LLM can be used in multiple countries ?

Marko,

sorry to disappoint you, but your formula won't work in Germany. Unlike in the US, where you can quite easily qualify for the bar exam, it is rather difficult in Germany. The bottom line is that if you haven't studied law in Germany, you will have a hard time becoming a lawyer here.

Just a quick overview:

1. The regular way to become a lawyer in Germany is 4 years of law school, then the 1. State Exam, then 2 years of practical training, then the 2. State Exam. The details vary from state to state, but essentially they require you to take certain courses which you basically can only take if you actually study German law at a German university. I am not aware of any LL.M. that qualifies for the German bar exam(s).

2. There are exceptions from these requirements for European trained lawyers who are already lawyers in their European home country. They will be admitted to the bar in Germany if they either have worked as lawyers in Germany for at least 3 years or pass a special test. But again, these exceptions only apply to lawyers from the European Community.

3. You can, of course, always be employed by a German law firm and work in their back office (without being allowed to appear in court or officially counsel clients), as long as a "real" lawyer is willing to sign for you.

I recommend you talk to one of the Justizprüfungsämter in Germany (each state has its own, they administer both bar exams) and/or to the Rechtsanwaltskammer (there is a federal one and each state has its own too, they are the self-regulatory body for lawyers). They will be able to tell you what options you have for becoming a lawyer in Germany without having to go through law school here.

<blockquote>thanks, so you mean
civil law degree + mlb or llm = yes to Germany bar exam ??
Which LLM can be used in multiple countries ? </blockquote>

Marko,

sorry to disappoint you, but your formula won't work in Germany. Unlike in the US, where you can quite easily qualify for the bar exam, it is rather difficult in Germany. The bottom line is that if you haven't studied law in Germany, you will have a hard time becoming a lawyer here.

Just a quick overview:

1. The regular way to become a lawyer in Germany is 4 years of law school, then the 1. State Exam, then 2 years of practical training, then the 2. State Exam. The details vary from state to state, but essentially they require you to take certain courses which you basically can only take if you actually study German law at a German university. I am not aware of any LL.M. that qualifies for the German bar exam(s).

2. There are exceptions from these requirements for European trained lawyers who are already lawyers in their European home country. They will be admitted to the bar in Germany if they either have worked as lawyers in Germany for at least 3 years or pass a special test. But again, these exceptions only apply to lawyers from the European Community.

3. You can, of course, always be employed by a German law firm and work in their back office (without being allowed to appear in court or officially counsel clients), as long as a "real" lawyer is willing to sign for you.

I recommend you talk to one of the Justizprüfungsämter in Germany (each state has its own, they administer both bar exams) and/or to the Rechtsanwaltskammer (there is a federal one and each state has its own too, they are the self-regulatory body for lawyers). They will be able to tell you what options you have for becoming a lawyer in Germany without having to go through law school here.

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marko f

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Posted May 04, 2010 21:41

@sascha_away
Thanks for the info! quite detailed..

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Palmstrom

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Posted Sep 01, 2011 18:21

Hi,
I know its an rather old thread, but just FYI:
Without German Bar, you are not aloud to appear to court, but with a law background + MLB you are still very attractive for biglaw. In the huge law firms, there are a lot people without German Bar doing the same work as a German qualified lawyer. And the MLB is also preparing you rather for the big business law than for the small law offices.

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mli9

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Posted Sep 06, 2011 11:40

Dear all,

I'm greatly interested in applying to this program, and would really want to know my prospect in getting in, if any of you can shed some light, I'd greatly appreciate! .
I am currently studying law, with a gpa 3.6. Before my law degree, I also completed a BBA but only with average grade- 3.2.

I know the school asks for class ranking, based on your experience, do I have to be in top 10% to have a shot?

thanks so much!