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Hello there.

I have not heard anything about Micromash (positive or negative). All I know is the big players for NY Bar Courses are Pieper Bar and BarBri. I did my exam with BarBri and failed. I re-did with Pieper Bar and passed.

Hope this helps!
Hello there.

I have not heard anything about Micromash (positive or negative). All I know is the big players for NY Bar Courses are Pieper Bar and BarBri. I did my exam with BarBri and failed. I re-did with Pieper Bar and passed.

Hope this helps!
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EdP
For the French lawyers: only a LLM is required, and you will be able to find a job in a top city firm if you are bilingual and have stellar grades from top universities.

Several of my friends have done this and work on a permanent basis in top 5 NY firms

For the French lawyers: only a LLM is required, and you will be able to find a job in a top city firm if you are bilingual and have stellar grades from top universities.

Several of my friends have done this and work on a permanent basis in top 5 NY firms
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Does anyone know where you can take the Bar exam as a foreign laywers without having a JD? I know you can do it in New York and in California, but what about the other states?


Blatantly as an foreign lawyer ,one can also appear for Washington bar exam.Through law clerk programme or if the candidate has practice law in a common law jurisdiction for minimum of 3 years.
<blockquote>Does anyone know where you can take the Bar exam as a foreign laywers without having a JD? I know you can do it in New York and in California, but what about the other states?</blockquote>

Blatantly as an foreign lawyer ,one can also appear for Washington bar exam.Through law clerk programme or if the candidate has practice law in a common law jurisdiction for minimum of 3 years.
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Ihab
Hi every one I got my LLB from Egypt and I'm planing to practice in the United states do I need to have LLM or where to start ?
I live in the state of Virginia.
Hi every one I got my LLB from Egypt and I'm planing to practice in the United states do I need to have LLM or where to start ?
I live in the state of Virginia.
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Im completing a 2 year LLB under the University of London External programme and want to sit for the California Bar exams after the UK Bar. Is this possible?
Im completing a 2 year LLB under the University of London External programme and want to sit for the California Bar exams after the UK Bar. Is this possible?
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Can anyone please help me out:

As a German qualified Lawyer awarded my first law degree from Germany and a internal LLM from the University of London, am I eligible to sit the New York Bar Exam? After reading the "Rules" it appears that the requirements are to study a 20 credit program with at least 2 basic courses in American law, in an approved law school.

My questions: 1. Is Queen Mary, University of London an ABA approved law school?
2. Is there a way to take the basic courses on American law, let's say in a summer course etc?

Any help would be highly appreciated!
Can anyone please help me out:

As a German qualified Lawyer awarded my first law degree from Germany and a internal LLM from the University of London, am I eligible to sit the New York Bar Exam? After reading the "Rules" it appears that the requirements are to study a 20 credit program with at least 2 basic courses in American law, in an approved law school.

My questions: 1. Is Queen Mary, University of London an ABA approved law school?
2. Is there a way to take the basic courses on American law, let's say in a summer course etc?

Any help would be highly appreciated!

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ideagirl
I heard that New York State Bar Examinations are every July and February. So If I fininsh my LLM in May, does that give me enough time and chances tp pass the July exam?
Thanks.


Theoretically yes. Bar Bri courses start in mid-May and end a couple of weeks before the bar exam.

I say theoretically because you have to register for the bar exam long before that--generally if you're sitting the July exam you need to register by February; you may be able to register later, but it will cost more (late fees). And registration is a MAJOR undertaking--you need to fill out tons of forms, provide tons of information, etc. Also, many states require you to take the MPRE (ethics exam) in addition to, and BEFORE, the bar, and that is offered at different times (e.g. the November before the bar exam). So it's a somewhat complicated process that you must prepare for well in advance.
<blockquote>I heard that New York State Bar Examinations are every July and February. So If I fininsh my LLM in May, does that give me enough time and chances tp pass the July exam?
Thanks.</blockquote>

Theoretically yes. Bar Bri courses start in mid-May and end a couple of weeks before the bar exam.

I say theoretically because you have to register for the bar exam long before that--generally if you're sitting the July exam you need to register by February; you may be able to register later, but it will cost more (late fees). And registration is a MAJOR undertaking--you need to fill out tons of forms, provide tons of information, etc. Also, many states require you to take the MPRE (ethics exam) in addition to, and BEFORE, the bar, and that is offered at different times (e.g. the November before the bar exam). So it's a somewhat complicated process that you must prepare for well in advance.
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ideagirl
1. Is Queen Mary, University of London an ABA approved law school?


No. The ABA only accredits law schools located in America. Here's a list:
http://www.abanet.org/legaled/approvedlawschools/alpha.html

Please understand that this is typical--I can't go pass the Paris bar or become a lawyer in Germany with my American law degree. Law is a region-specific discipline.

I don't know what to suggest to you other than this:
(1) contact the NY bar association to see if there is any way for you to sit their bar exam (for example, could you offer proof that you've already studied some American law, or could you study for a semester in an American law school?).
(2) contact the California bar with your questions--California does not require you to have a degree from an ABA-accredited law school. So perhaps you could sit the bar there with your credentials.
(3) or possibly, consider doing an LLM in an American law school located in whichever state you want to take the bar exam in.
<blockquote>1. Is Queen Mary, University of London an ABA approved law school?</blockquote>

No. The ABA only accredits law schools located in America. Here's a list:
http://www.abanet.org/legaled/approvedlawschools/alpha.html

Please understand that this is typical--I can't go pass the Paris bar or become a lawyer in Germany with my American law degree. Law is a region-specific discipline.

I don't know what to suggest to you other than this:
(1) contact the NY bar association to see if there is any way for you to sit their bar exam (for example, could you offer proof that you've already studied some American law, or could you study for a semester in an American law school?).
(2) contact the California bar with your questions--California does not require you to have a degree from an ABA-accredited law school. So perhaps you could sit the bar there with your credentials.
(3) or possibly, consider doing an LLM in an American law school located in whichever state you want to take the bar exam in.
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I am a Chinese lawyer. I passed the bar in China without going to law school. Will that stop be from being able to sit in New York or California bar exam? Will they require us to submit transcript from law school?

Your kind sharing is very much appreciated.

Thank you so much!
I am a Chinese lawyer. I passed the bar in China without going to law school. Will that stop be from being able to sit in New York or California bar exam? Will they require us to submit transcript from law school?

Your kind sharing is very much appreciated.

Thank you so much!
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Hi all,

Thank you all for your suggestions in advance. I have a huge decision to make. I am a Chinese lawyer, I practiced Chinese law for 5 years.

I don't have a law degree. Chinese government allows people with bachelor degree to take the bar exam. So I taught myself and passed it.

I can be accepted in a ABA approved LLM program. but I am not sure at all after finishing a program I can take any bar exam. I checked, NY, Louisana all need equivalent evaluation.

Yet, without LLM program, how can I get one equivalence evaluation? What if I finish my LLM, and I was determined not to qualified, then my time and money is going to be totally wasted.

Please kindly advise.

Thanks a lot!
Hi all,

Thank you all for your suggestions in advance. I have a huge decision to make. I am a Chinese lawyer, I practiced Chinese law for 5 years.

I don't have a law degree. Chinese government allows people with bachelor degree to take the bar exam. So I taught myself and passed it.

I can be accepted in a ABA approved LLM program. but I am not sure at all after finishing a program I can take any bar exam. I checked, NY, Louisana all need equivalent evaluation.

Yet, without LLM program, how can I get one equivalence evaluation? What if I finish my LLM, and I was determined not to qualified, then my time and money is going to be totally wasted.

Please kindly advise.

Thanks a lot!
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Oustun
Hi Everybody!
I am a new member of you guys and would have a weird question because of it has been asked many times on this board.
I got my J.D. from Turkey which is in Europe and using Roman law and now I am doing my LLM in US.
In which states I can take the Bar Exam?
Thanks
Hi Everybody!
I am a new member of you guys and would have a weird question because of it has been asked many times on this board.
I got my J.D. from Turkey which is in Europe and using Roman law and now I am doing my LLM in US.
In which states I can take the Bar Exam?
Thanks
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Oustun
I just heard today from a friend and she said if you are LPR you can take the bar exam in any state.I will check with bars one by one. But do you guys have any idea for PERMANENT RESIDENTS?
Your answers are highly appreciated..
Thanks..
I just heard today from a friend and she said if you are LPR you can take the bar exam in any state.I will check with bars one by one. But do you guys have any idea for PERMANENT RESIDENTS?
Your answers are highly appreciated..
Thanks..
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lawschool
Has anyone successfully completed the UOL-External LLB and then taken the bar exam in NC after receiving an LLM from a ABA approved law school? I almost signed up for the LLB in 2005, but upon checking with the NC bar, I was told as of August 2005 only persons holding JD would be allowed to sit for bar exam. I just took a look at the 2008 comprehensive guide for bar admission (on abanet website) and chart X shows that a person holding a LLB from a foriegn law school can sit for the bar exam in NC after completing an LLM from an ABA approved school. Can anyone verify this? Thanks in advance.
Has anyone successfully completed the UOL-External LLB and then taken the bar exam in NC after receiving an LLM from a ABA approved law school? I almost signed up for the LLB in 2005, but upon checking with the NC bar, I was told as of August 2005 only persons holding JD would be allowed to sit for bar exam. I just took a look at the 2008 comprehensive guide for bar admission (on abanet website) and chart X shows that a person holding a LLB from a foriegn law school can sit for the bar exam in NC after completing an LLM from an ABA approved school. Can anyone verify this? Thanks in advance.
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almila
Hi, I want to take the bar exam in NY but the thing is i read New York rules for the admission of attorneys and counselors at law and especially 520.6 Study of Law in Foreign Country; Required Legal Education but i cant decide whether i can take the exam. I studied LLB(4years) in a country with civil law system then studied a full time LLM in UK whose jurisprudence is based upon the principles of the English Common Law so I cant be sure if that count?
520.6 (b) (1) (ii) basically says that " that applicant has successfully completed a full-time or part-time program consisting of a minimum of 20 semester hours of credit, or the equivalent, in professional law subjects, which includes basic courses in American law, in an approved law school in the United States;.."
i would be grateful if anyone knowsanything about that!!
Thanks..
Hi, I want to take the bar exam in NY but the thing is i read New York rules for the admission of attorneys and counselors at law and especially 520.6 Study of Law in Foreign Country; Required Legal Education but i cant decide whether i can take the exam. I studied LLB(4years) in a country with civil law system then studied a full time LLM in UK whose jurisprudence is based upon the principles of the English Common Law so I cant be sure if that count?
520.6 (b) (1) (ii) basically says that " that applicant has successfully completed a full-time or part-time program consisting of a minimum of 20 semester hours of credit, or the equivalent, in professional law subjects, which includes basic courses in American law, in an approved law school in the United States;.."
i would be grateful if anyone knowsanything about that!!
Thanks..
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Almila, since you took your LLM in a UK school and not in a US school, you would probably not be allowed to take the NY bar because 520.6 (b) (1) (ii) says that you should take courses in US law, "in an approved law school in the United States;.." and it was pointed out that the US only accredits schools inside the US.
Almila, since you took your LLM in a UK school and not in a US school, you would probably not be allowed to take the NY bar because 520.6 (b) (1) (ii) says that you should take courses in US law, "in an approved law school in the United States;.." and it was pointed out that the US only accredits schools inside the US.
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Gregor2009
Hi All,

I have a question regarding eligibility to take the NY Bar exam, please can someone assist?

Basically, I have completed 3-year JD with a university in Australia. I understand from the threads so far that graduates holding Australian LLBs/JDs are generally able to undertake the NY Bar exam without further study. However, for my case, I overloaded every semester, fast-tracked and completed my JD within 2 years. Thus, does this still affect my eligibility given that my 'in-residence' period is 2-years whilst my 'classroom hours' still stands at 3-years?

I do also have a LLM from another Australian University.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this!

Cheers
Greg
Hi All,

I have a question regarding eligibility to take the NY Bar exam, please can someone assist?

Basically, I have completed 3-year JD with a university in Australia. I understand from the threads so far that graduates holding Australian LLBs/JDs are generally able to undertake the NY Bar exam without further study. However, for my case, I overloaded every semester, fast-tracked and completed my JD within 2 years. Thus, does this still affect my eligibility given that my 'in-residence' period is 2-years whilst my 'classroom hours' still stands at 3-years?

I do also have a LLM from another Australian University.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this!

Cheers
Greg
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Erkan
This article will answer many of your questions:

US Bar Exam FAQ, by Ilona Stanley
http://www.llm-guide.com/article/407/us-bar-exam-faq
This article will answer many of your questions:

US Bar Exam FAQ, by Ilona Stanley
http://www.llm-guide.com/article/407/us-bar-exam-faq
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