NUS-LLM( INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS LAW)2012-13


Hello everyone!
Wanted to know the general reputation of the IBL course of NUS. Also if anybody is interested in applying for this course for year 2012-13.. How do we prepare for the application. Would appreciate if seniors would come forward and help us with the same.
Thanks!

Hello everyone!
Wanted to know the general reputation of the IBL course of NUS. Also if anybody is interested in applying for this course for year 2012-13.. How do we prepare for the application. Would appreciate if seniors would come forward and help us with the same.
Thanks!
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athyd

hi...am in the process of applying for LLM without specialisation......waiting for my IELTS test score which will come on 11th......

hi...am in the process of applying for LLM without specialisation......waiting for my IELTS test score which will come on 11th......
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Tofayel

For Law admission, you have need LSAT Score. So you should prepare for LSAT at first.

For Law admission, you have need LSAT Score. So you should prepare for LSAT at first.
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r.l.

You don't need the LSAT for this program. So before you scare the life out of people, do your research.

You don't need the LSAT for this program. So before you scare the life out of people, do your research.
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r.l.

In another note, has anyone sent off their application?

In another note, has anyone sent off their application?
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shervyn

Hi Richi..Where r u from in India. I am too applying for the said course. Will be making my application shortly. The deadline being 1st Dec for IBL and 2nd Jan for CFL.

Hi Richi..Where r u from in India. I am too applying for the said course. Will be making my application shortly. The deadline being 1st Dec for IBL and 2nd Jan for CFL.
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athyd

hi....i got a 8 of 9 in ma IELTS....have applied online for LLM without specialisation in NU....sent the hardcopy of the application also.......keeping ma fingers crossed.....

hi....i got a 8 of 9 in ma IELTS....have applied online for LLM without specialisation in NU....sent the hardcopy of the application also.......keeping ma fingers crossed.....
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I am a 2009-10 graduate from NUS's International Business Law LLM. And the reputation of NUS is great. Of course I am bias, but it is in two of Asia's most influential cities, Shanghai and Singapore. And this allows for a lot of networking and a ton of fun.

I am a 2009-10 graduate from NUS's International Business Law LLM. And the reputation of NUS is great. Of course I am bias, but it is in two of Asia's most influential cities, Shanghai and Singapore. And this allows for a lot of networking and a ton of fun.
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dsmatharu

I am a 2009-10 graduate from NUS's International Business Law LLM. And the reputation of NUS is great. Of course I am bias, but it is in two of Asia's most influential cities, Shanghai and Singapore. And this allows for a lot of networking and a ton of fun.


Hi,
Being a former NUS LLM graduate, this is one question which you could answer and something which all the people applying to NUS would like to know. What is the placement scene after the LLM??
Thank you in advance.

<blockquote>I am a 2009-10 graduate from NUS's International Business Law LLM. And the reputation of NUS is great. Of course I am bias, but it is in two of Asia's most influential cities, Shanghai and Singapore. And this allows for a lot of networking and a ton of fun.</blockquote>

Hi,
Being a former NUS LLM graduate, this is one question which you could answer and something which all the people applying to NUS would like to know. What is the placement scene after the LLM??
Thank you in advance.
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Because I had not yet received my first law degree, I had to return to the US and finish. For this reason, I was not in the position to get a job there. Also, I am not seeking legal employment, but rather business.

That being said... The NUS name is strong in Asia. Two of my friends work in Shanghai, one got her job from networking through the IBL program. Neither are Chinese or Asian.

About five of my friends from the program work in Singapore at the Singapore International Arbitration Centre. And I have met many other friends from the previous years who networked into jobs through NUS.

NUS will provide you with a short internship. But the word is that no one gets post-employment from this internship. But the internship does expose you to other legal professionals, which has led to later employment.

I hope that answers your question.

Because I had not yet received my first law degree, I had to return to the US and finish. For this reason, I was not in the position to get a job there. Also, I am not seeking legal employment, but rather business.

That being said... The NUS name is strong in Asia. Two of my friends work in Shanghai, one got her job from networking through the IBL program. Neither are Chinese or Asian.

About five of my friends from the program work in Singapore at the Singapore International Arbitration Centre. And I have met many other friends from the previous years who networked into jobs through NUS.

NUS will provide you with a short internship. But the word is that no one gets post-employment from this internship. But the internship does expose you to other legal professionals, which has led to later employment.

I hope that answers your question.
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Just to be clear.

You have to network, network, network...
NUS has a huge brand name and networking should lead to good placement.

Also, keep in mind that my experiences are during one of the worst parts of the international downturn. If the European Markets stay strong and NYSE stays strong, financial centres like Singapore should have a lot of jobs available.

Just to be clear.

You have to network, network, network...
NUS has a huge brand name and networking should lead to good placement.

Also, keep in mind that my experiences are during one of the worst parts of the international downturn. If the European Markets stay strong and NYSE stays strong, financial centres like Singapore should have a lot of jobs available.
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dsmatharu

Thank you Herb Wolfe. That information really helps all of us who have applied to NUS. In addition to NUS programs I have also applied for NYU@NUS. So, with all that information from you, I think I am probably on the right track. Thank you.

Thank you Herb Wolfe. That information really helps all of us who have applied to NUS. In addition to NUS programs I have also applied for NYU@NUS. So, with all that information from you, I think I am probably on the right track. Thank you.
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I am currently pursuing the GDL from BPP Law School and have a bachelors degree in finance. Will I be eligible to apply for the LLM (IBL)? Also, my final results for the GDL will only be published in July 2012; is it possible to apply for conditional acceptance for the 2012 intake?

I am currently pursuing the GDL from BPP Law School and have a bachelors degree in finance. Will I be eligible to apply for the LLM (IBL)? Also, my final results for the GDL will only be published in July 2012; is it possible to apply for conditional acceptance for the 2012 intake?
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r.l.

I am currently pursuing the GDL from BPP Law School and have a bachelors degree in finance. Will I be eligible to apply for the LLM (IBL)? Also, my final results for the GDL will only be published in July 2012; is it possible to apply for conditional acceptance for the 2012 intake?


Hey there. I'm in a somewhat similar position to you, having completed a non-law degree and the GDL. Admissions told me that GDL holders are eligible, and I've applied. As for current GDL students, I can't say for sure. If I were you, I'd download the application form and instructions and have a read through them also. Feel free to pm me.

<blockquote>I am currently pursuing the GDL from BPP Law School and have a bachelors degree in finance. Will I be eligible to apply for the LLM (IBL)? Also, my final results for the GDL will only be published in July 2012; is it possible to apply for conditional acceptance for the 2012 intake?</blockquote>

Hey there. I'm in a somewhat similar position to you, having completed a non-law degree and the GDL. Admissions told me that GDL holders are eligible, and I've applied. As for current GDL students, I can't say for sure. If I were you, I'd download the application form and instructions and have a read through them also. Feel free to pm me.
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rkarthik87

Hey guys!!!
I have applied for IBL and the Coursework.
Please tell me which is better.
The subjects in IBL are very restricted.
Also what about job oppurtunities?

Hey guys!!!
I have applied for IBL and the Coursework.
Please tell me which is better.
The subjects in IBL are very restricted.
Also what about job oppurtunities?
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athyd

Hi karthik
you are right.....the courses are very restricted....thats the reason i have applied for masters without specialisation.....though one is expected to complete 40 credit, the choice is absolutely yours to pick and choose the credit which you would like to take....that way i feel the exposure will be much more though it may be little tough on the curriculum.....

Hi karthik
you are right.....the courses are very restricted....thats the reason i have applied for masters without specialisation.....though one is expected to complete 40 credit, the choice is absolutely yours to pick and choose the credit which you would like to take....that way i feel the exposure will be much more though it may be little tough on the curriculum.....
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This pertains to the IBL course load. During the Singaporean part of the study, an IBL student can take one or two optional classes from the law school. If Professor Hop Dang is teaching, I highly suggest taking his course, as it is focused on practical studies. Here is a CV from SMU for Hop: http://www.law.smu.edu.sg/emailer/cle/CV.pdf

The IBL is the only LLM study that partly takes place in Shanghai. If you are interested in seeing China and you have practical concerns about money, then the IBL is the right choice. A cheap dinner in a Singaporean restaurant costs about US$20, whereas a cheap dinner in a Shanghai restaurant can cost only US$1. Renting a room in Singapore is about US$1000 a month and a youth Hostel is about US$400 a month. In Shanghai the dorm room is about US$50 a month and an apartment shared with friends can be had for US$500 (for everyone.)

Keep in mind that these prices may have changed, but a little research will show that China is much much much less expensive. Also, Singapore gets boring and you will spend a lot more money travelin to Phuket than you will traveling to Beijing.

This pertains to the IBL course load. During the Singaporean part of the study, an IBL student can take one or two optional classes from the law school. If Professor Hop Dang is teaching, I highly suggest taking his course, as it is focused on practical studies. Here is a CV from SMU for Hop: http://www.law.smu.edu.sg/emailer/cle/CV.pdf

The IBL is the only LLM study that partly takes place in Shanghai. If you are interested in seeing China and you have practical concerns about money, then the IBL is the right choice. A cheap dinner in a Singaporean restaurant costs about US$20, whereas a cheap dinner in a Shanghai restaurant can cost only US$1. Renting a room in Singapore is about US$1000 a month and a youth Hostel is about US$400 a month. In Shanghai the dorm room is about US$50 a month and an apartment shared with friends can be had for US$500 (for everyone.)

Keep in mind that these prices may have changed, but a little research will show that China is much much much less expensive. Also, Singapore gets boring and you will spend a lot more money travelin to Phuket than you will traveling to Beijing.
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rkarthik87

@ Athyd:

Is it 24 credits or 40 credits....
I think we need to choose 10 subjects of 4 credits each but need only 24 credits to qualify...
Correct me if I am wrong....

@ Athyd:

Is it 24 credits or 40 credits....
I think we need to choose 10 subjects of 4 credits each but need only 24 credits to qualify...
Correct me if I am wrong....
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r.l.

Great post Herb.

I was wondering if you could elaborate on whether coursemates tend to live together in Shanghai, and whether this was something organised by the department, or just people getting together with the friends they've made on their course.

I also wanted to know whether there are any language facilities for learning Chinese at the university, how much it costs, and whether you know anyone that did it.

I also noticed that you say you hadn't finished your first law degree before going to NUS. Given this, how did you find the difficulty of the course?

Great post Herb.

I was wondering if you could elaborate on whether coursemates tend to live together in Shanghai, and whether this was something organised by the department, or just people getting together with the friends they've made on their course.

I also wanted to know whether there are any language facilities for learning Chinese at the university, how much it costs, and whether you know anyone that did it.

I also noticed that you say you hadn't finished your first law degree before going to NUS. Given this, how did you find the difficulty of the course?
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First, unless you choose to live in the dorms, you usually live with friends from the program. Most people lived in groups of 3. You will make friends in the program, so no worries.

There may be language facilities at ECUPL for learning Mandarin, but most people just picked one of the many private schools for learning. I already had 3 years of manadarin studies, so I just made Chinese friends and practiced with them. THere are many books available for studying at the various bookstores.

Finally, I had already completed one year of US law school and one year of US business (MBA)school by the time I started. This allowed me to have the necessary skills in law. Further, I feel that I had much greater understanding of business than most of my classmates. Do not get me wrong, they were all very intelligent and talented students, but I had a clear understanding of the strategy and thought processes that go into business decisions.

The course load focuses a great deal on cultural/political differences as well as legal and business strategies. Read and attend class and you will do fine.

Cheers.

First, unless you choose to live in the dorms, you usually live with friends from the program. Most people lived in groups of 3. You will make friends in the program, so no worries.

There may be language facilities at ECUPL for learning Mandarin, but most people just picked one of the many private schools for learning. I already had 3 years of manadarin studies, so I just made Chinese friends and practiced with them. THere are many books available for studying at the various bookstores.

Finally, I had already completed one year of US law school and one year of US business (MBA)school by the time I started. This allowed me to have the necessary skills in law. Further, I feel that I had much greater understanding of business than most of my classmates. Do not get me wrong, they were all very intelligent and talented students, but I had a clear understanding of the strategy and thought processes that go into business decisions.

The course load focuses a great deal on cultural/political differences as well as legal and business strategies. Read and attend class and you will do fine.

Cheers.
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