Hi guys, just had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer. I do law at an english university and want to do an llm in america. Having done that, what are the requirements to become a qualified New York lawyer? If I was to go back to the UK, would i still have to go to law school or could i simply take the conversion exams. Thanks, Fred.
Requirements post LLM
Posted Jul 13, 2006 19:42
Posted Jul 13, 2006 21:17
There are numerous threads on the possibility for UK law graduates to take the NY Bar (basically, you don't even need to have an LLM to be eligible as long as you have completed the standard 3-year law degree) - check the US section of this forum. As for the second part of your question, I have recently outlined in another thread that in order to be able to take the QLTT (the 'conversion exams') as an American attorney-at-law you need to have at least 2 years of post-qualification experience in the US. So unless you plan to work in a NY law firm for a couple of years post-LLM and/or post-NY Bar, you will simply have to follow the normal route of LPC plus training contract or BVC plus pupillage to qualify in the UK.
Posted Jul 18, 2006 09:56
to be attorney in US i thinku have to gv exam for attroney by aba...nthing more than that! but cd u plz help me n tell me that do i requre LSAT exam along with toefl for doing LLM from US? i am indian grl! plz suggets
Posted Jul 18, 2006 18:22
to be attorney in US i thinku have to gv exam for attroney by aba...nthing more than that! but cd u plz help me n tell me that do i requre LSAT exam along with toefl for doing LLM from US? i am indian grl! plz suggets
Dont need LSAT for applying for LLM at all! Sure! Only Toefl is enough.
Dont need LSAT for applying for LLM at all! Sure! Only Toefl is enough.
Posted Jul 19, 2006 04:38
I am American starting the LLM (UCL-external student) and wanted to know if after I complete this masters degree can I take the Bar exam in NY or CA? And after passing would this entitle me to practice law?
Btw, does it matter that I was a distance student, and plus don't have any work experience in law prior to the Bar exam?
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Noura
Btw, does it matter that I was a distance student, and plus don't have any work experience in law prior to the Bar exam?
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Noura
Posted Jul 19, 2006 09:12
I am American starting the LLM (UCL-external student) and wanted to know if after I complete this masters degree can I take the Bar exam in NY or CA? And after passing would this entitle me to practice law?
Btw, does it matter that I was a distance student, and plus don't have any work experience in law prior to the Bar exam?
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Noura
So you are an American with LL.B. form UCL and want to take LL.M. in U.S. ,aren't you?
If yes, sure, you can take the bar exam in NY or CA (these are the only two states that allow LL.M. student to take bar exam). Then, you can practice law in the state that grant you the lawyer license.
In U.S., there is no such things like "National Bar" that allow you to practice law nationally. Each states have their own bar and you are allowed to pactice law in the only state that you passed the bar exam.
However, if you are an LL.M. student, your choice is very limited because only NY and CA allow LL.M. to take the bar.
Nevertheless, after practice law in some certain years in NY or Ca, you may be eligible to practice law in other states which depends on each states' rules.
But if you are an American with LL.B. from other countries and LL.M. from UCL, I think you are not eligible. Because this is U.S., not U.K.
Btw, does it matter that I was a distance student, and plus don't have any work experience in law prior to the Bar exam?
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Noura</blockquote>
So you are an American with LL.B. form UCL and want to take LL.M. in U.S. ,aren't you?
If yes, sure, you can take the bar exam in NY or CA (these are the only two states that allow LL.M. student to take bar exam). Then, you can practice law in the state that grant you the lawyer license.
In U.S., there is no such things like "National Bar" that allow you to practice law nationally. Each states have their own bar and you are allowed to pactice law in the only state that you passed the bar exam.
However, if you are an LL.M. student, your choice is very limited because only NY and CA allow LL.M. to take the bar.
Nevertheless, after practice law in some certain years in NY or Ca, you may be eligible to practice law in other states which depends on each states' rules.
But if you are an American with LL.B. from other countries and LL.M. from UCL, I think you are not eligible. Because this is U.S., not U.K.
Posted Jul 19, 2006 13:38
Thank you for your reply. No, I do not have a LL.B. My undergraduate studies were done in the U.S., and aIthough I took some legal courses, majored in another field. Therefore, does your response above still apply. Will NY and/or CA allow me to take the Bar exam upon completion of the LL.M, considering I didn't complete prior the LL.B?
Posted Jul 19, 2006 15:47
I think only LL.M. is enough, however, there are some required course you have to take.
for other relevant informations, please see:
http://www.nybarexam.org/
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp
for other relevant informations, please see:
http://www.nybarexam.org/
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp
Posted Jul 19, 2006 19:00
I saw that the required course is "American Law", but do you know the specific course/s name? Also, would this mean after my name Esq. or PA would appear and not JD...b/c obviously I wouldn't have completed a doctorate degree? I think this saves money (LL.M Degree), if in the end one has the option of practicing law in a couple of states, without having to do a JD.
Posted Jul 19, 2006 20:17
I think only LL.M. is enough, however, there are some required course you have to take.
for other relevant informations, please see:
http://www.nybarexam.org/
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp
Pra,
Would an LLM from UK and LLB from India allow me to take NY bar?
Thanks.
RMP
for other relevant informations, please see:
http://www.nybarexam.org/
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_home.jsp</blockquote>
Pra,
Would an LLM from UK and LLB from India allow me to take NY bar?
Thanks.
RMP
Posted Jul 20, 2006 08:46
To Noura,
I think "American Law" is like some basic law course such as contract, property or criminal (not sure). You should check with the Law School you want to apply. Moreover, I don't think you get any ESQ from LL.M. degree or Bar, but,sure, you can put them in your namecard and resume after your name.
To rmp,
I think only a degree from U.S. Law School is eligible. Please check the website I have provided again for sure.
I think "American Law" is like some basic law course such as contract, property or criminal (not sure). You should check with the Law School you want to apply. Moreover, I don't think you get any ESQ from LL.M. degree or Bar, but,sure, you can put them in your namecard and resume after your name.
To rmp,
I think only a degree from U.S. Law School is eligible. Please check the website I have provided again for sure.
Posted Jul 20, 2006 17:38
Thanks Pra608
Posted Jul 20, 2006 18:34
I've just found som useful information in this rule.
http://www.nybarexam.org/court.htm
According to section 520.6, a law degree from foreign countries may be eligible to take NY bar exam, under some conditions.
http://www.nybarexam.org/court.htm
According to section 520.6, a law degree from foreign countries may be eligible to take NY bar exam, under some conditions.
Posted Jul 23, 2006 03:31
Thank you very much, pra608 . Oh yes, I fine combed all the sections LOL.
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