Foreign law degree + online LLM - Rule 4.30 of the Admission Rules


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I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!!

I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!!
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Trini30

Which UK law degree did you do? I may also seek to apply to the California bar.

Which UK law degree did you do? I may also seek to apply to the California bar.
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llm_usa

The GMU online LLM does qualify you for the California bar and Washington state bars according to their website!

You should be OK to sit for California! As long as you sit the required subjects and credits you should be fine.

The website is clear about this:

https://www.law.gmu.edu/academics/degrees/llm_us_law_online

I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!!

The GMU online LLM does qualify you for the California bar and Washington state bars according to their website!

You should be OK to sit for California! As long as you sit the required subjects and credits you should be fine.

The website is clear about this:

https://www.law.gmu.edu/academics/degrees/llm_us_law_online

[quote]I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!![/quote]
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jwpetterch...

I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!!


You should probably ask with GMU if you intend to sit the NY bar. It probably will let you sit the DC and CA bars, but the CA bar is harder than DC or NY in my opinion.

Also, what law degree do you have from the UK that requires an LLM? You should be able to sit the NY bar exam with any 3 year LLB honours degree as long as it is done in residence.

[quote]I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!![/quote]

You should probably ask with GMU if you intend to sit the NY bar. It probably will let you sit the DC and CA bars, but the CA bar is harder than DC or NY in my opinion.

Also, what law degree do you have from the UK that requires an LLM? You should be able to sit the NY bar exam with any 3 year LLB honours degree as long as it is done in residence.
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renw4

I am also on the same boat, just gotten recognition on my foreign law degree from Calbar. I am looking into online LLM programs to satisfy the requirements to sit in the Bar. I have been searching for different schools and found Lincoln Law School San Jose. Its LLM degree is specifically cater for students with foreign law degree to sit the Cal Bar.

[Edited by renw4 on Apr 15, 2020]

I am also on the same boat, just gotten recognition on my foreign law degree from Calbar. I am looking into online LLM programs to satisfy the requirements to sit in the Bar. I have been searching for different schools and found Lincoln Law School San Jose. Its LLM degree is specifically cater for students with foreign law degree to sit the Cal Bar.
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I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!!

[quote]I received the confirmation from the State Bar of California that my UK LLB has fulfilled the requirement of equivalency to a JD and provided that I can complete an LLM from a law school approved by the ABA I can sit for the bar exam.

The problem I have now is that the GMU online LLM that I have enroll to does not appear to fulfill the Rule 4.30 requirement:-

“The 20 semester or equivalent quarter units must include a minimum of not less than a total of twelve (12) semester or equivalent units in four separate subjects tested on the California Bar Examination. One of the four subjects must be Professional Responsibility...”

The GMU online LLM’s course of Professional Responsibilities is 2CR, and the other CA bar tested subjects are 3CR - there is no way that I can obtain 12 CR in four CA bar tested subjects with Professional Responsibility carries only 2CR.

Please, does anyone know how I can get this remedied? Thanks very much!!!! [/quote]
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