UCL - King's - QML


fador
Hi guys!

I know this question has been posted before, but I haven't found anything very recent and I fell quite a bit has changed (or at least that's what I could gather).
I'm looking to do a LLM in international business law/international commercial law at UCL, King's or QML and can't decide for the life of me.
I spoke to one practitioner that strongly recommended QML, but then he did attend that uni himself.
It seems to me like for overall prestige King's is definitely stronger, but maybe for the LLM in financial law (broadly) QML might be better? From the info I could gather it seems that QML got quite established during the last few years..
And UCL is highest in the rankings atm...even though these seem somewhat arbitrary to me.
All three are part if the Russel group, while QML isn't part of the "golden triangle", as a non-UK national it is hard for me to judge however if the latter is "just" a prestige thing or actually matters.
King's seems to be very practically oriented, which I like, but then QML seems to be doing a lot of voluntary work to get you right into it.
Also it seems to me King's might be sponsored by more of the big law firms, which seems like a plus?
King's clearly has got the greatest location, and if their courses are equally good I think I would prefer King's..
I've read a few times that it actually doesn't matter which of these unis you attend, as they're all good and appreciated by future employees - does anyone possibly know or maybe have any expirience with degreees from these Unis in the english job market?

Anyway, I am super undecided atm and a bit worried of making the wrong decision (leaning tow. King's atm for no specific reason, just because I've always loved the bulding and campus), so if anyone has any more advice or maybe even went to one of the unis, I would very greatly appreciate it, as I feel I have done all the research possible and am still nowhere close to deciding.

Thanks and cheers :)

[Edited by fador on Mar 23, 2017]

Hi guys!

I know this question has been posted before, but I haven't found anything very recent and I fell quite a bit has changed (or at least that's what I could gather).
I'm looking to do a LLM in international business law/international commercial law at UCL, King's or QML and can't decide for the life of me.
I spoke to one practitioner that strongly recommended QML, but then he did attend that uni himself.
It seems to me like for overall prestige King's is definitely stronger, but maybe for the LLM in financial law (broadly) QML might be better? From the info I could gather it seems that QML got quite established during the last few years..
And UCL is highest in the rankings atm...even though these seem somewhat arbitrary to me.
All three are part if the Russel group, while QML isn't part of the "golden triangle", as a non-UK national it is hard for me to judge however if the latter is "just" a prestige thing or actually matters.
King's seems to be very practically oriented, which I like, but then QML seems to be doing a lot of voluntary work to get you right into it.
Also it seems to me King's might be sponsored by more of the big law firms, which seems like a plus?
King's clearly has got the greatest location, and if their courses are equally good I think I would prefer King's..
I've read a few times that it actually doesn't matter which of these unis you attend, as they're all good and appreciated by future employees - does anyone possibly know or maybe have any expirience with degreees from these Unis in the english job market?

Anyway, I am super undecided atm and a bit worried of making the wrong decision (leaning tow. King's atm for no specific reason, just because I've always loved the bulding and campus), so if anyone has any more advice or maybe even went to one of the unis, I would very greatly appreciate it, as I feel I have done all the research possible and am still nowhere close to deciding.

Thanks and cheers :)
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PC95
I also have the same dilemma !! And I'm interested in the same areas
I also have the same dilemma !! And I'm interested in the same areas
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fador
I think I just simultaneously replied to your thread :)!
I think I just simultaneously replied to your thread :)!
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Hi, I am applying for the full-time LL.M. programme. I want to specialise in International Business Law. I had some doubts regarding the application process.

How long should my personal statement be? What questions should it address?
Do I need to submit a writing sample as well? If yes, how long should my writing sample be?
Do I also need to upload my CV/resume?

I would be grateful to you if you could answer my queries. The online prospectus and the FAQs do not address these.
Hi, I am applying for the full-time LL.M. programme. I want to specialise in International Business Law. I had some doubts regarding the application process.

How long should my personal statement be? What questions should it address?
Do I need to submit a writing sample as well? If yes, how long should my writing sample be?
Do I also need to upload my CV/resume?

I would be grateful to you if you could answer my queries. The online prospectus and the FAQs do not address these.
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I forgot to mention that my queries are regarding the programme at KCL
I forgot to mention that my queries are regarding the programme at KCL
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fador
Hi, I am applying for the full-time LL.M. programme. I want to specialise in International Business Law. I had some doubts regarding the application process.

How long should my personal statement be? What questions should it address?
Do I need to submit a writing sample as well? If yes, how long should my writing sample be?
Do I also need to upload my CV/resume?

I would be grateful to you if you could answer my queries. The online prospectus and the FAQs do not address these.


Hey -
if I remeber correctly once you create an account and log in there will be more detailed information in regard to length of the PS and what else is needed (can't remember if a CV was neccessary, definitely no writing sample).
PS in general should always explain why you want to attend the uni, courses, etc. I'm pretty sure if you google it you'll find some info. (describe your academic background, reasons for
taking the programme and what you hope to gain from it, including any
relevant interests, strengths, ambitions or research interests - this is from an old King's prospectus).
Good luck!
[quote]Hi, I am applying for the full-time LL.M. programme. I want to specialise in International Business Law. I had some doubts regarding the application process.

How long should my personal statement be? What questions should it address?
Do I need to submit a writing sample as well? If yes, how long should my writing sample be?
Do I also need to upload my CV/resume?

I would be grateful to you if you could answer my queries. The online prospectus and the FAQs do not address these.[/quote]

Hey -
if I remeber correctly once you create an account and log in there will be more detailed information in regard to length of the PS and what else is needed (can't remember if a CV was neccessary, definitely no writing sample).
PS in general should always explain why you want to attend the uni, courses, etc. I'm pretty sure if you google it you'll find some info. (describe your academic background, reasons for
taking the programme and what you hope to gain from it, including any
relevant interests, strengths, ambitions or research interests - this is from an old King's prospectus).
Good luck!

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Anonimax
It is difficult to give you an answer: we all choose one LLM and we can testify only for this LLM.

It depends on so many -personal- factors: the reputation of the university in your country, modules you want to attend, alumni in law firms you would like to apply and so on...

Personally I choose the LLM in International Financial Law at KCL and I have no regret. It is a great experience and I have met wonderful people from 63 countries! In France KCL is very prestigious (better than UCL, QMUL or LSE) and according to rankings the LLM in Financial Law is one of the best worldwide (5th according to this website). I wanted to expand my knowledge in financial regulation and I took very interesting modules like EU Financial Regulation, Financial Risk, Stability & Regulation and also Competition Law in Financial Services. Some other students are focus on "pure" financial law and Professor Ravi Teneekoon is a top gun for them. Look all the modules available on the website. What I like at KCL is that I can choose all my modules: I also decided to take Negotiation, Global Law in Climate Change... even though they are not directly linked to financial law!
For all my modules my professors have invited guest lecturers and it was very well appreciated.
It is also important to say that KCL, the KCL Law Society and the Post Graduate Law Society organize a lot (it is impressive) of events with firms, law firms or social activities. I know it is not the same for all universities.
At KCL we also have a good relationship with LSE law students and we have some events together. In contrast, we never met any UCL or QMUL students at events organized by LSE, KCL or law firms.

I hope it helps and that students from other universities will do the same ;-)

PS: QMUL is 25 in law in the UK according the The Complete University Guide and 37 worldwide for QS. It is not impressive at all for me.

[Edited by Anonimax on Mar 25, 2017]

It is difficult to give you an answer: we all choose one LLM and we can testify only for this LLM.

It depends on so many -personal- factors: the reputation of the university in your country, modules you want to attend, alumni in law firms you would like to apply and so on...

Personally I choose the LLM in International Financial Law at KCL and I have no regret. It is a great experience and I have met wonderful people from 63 countries! In France KCL is very prestigious (better than UCL, QMUL or LSE) and according to rankings the LLM in Financial Law is one of the best worldwide (5th according to this website). I wanted to expand my knowledge in financial regulation and I took very interesting modules like EU Financial Regulation, Financial Risk, Stability & Regulation and also Competition Law in Financial Services. Some other students are focus on "pure" financial law and Professor Ravi Teneekoon is a top gun for them. Look all the modules available on the website. What I like at KCL is that I can choose all my modules: I also decided to take Negotiation, Global Law in Climate Change... even though they are not directly linked to financial law!
For all my modules my professors have invited guest lecturers and it was very well appreciated.
It is also important to say that KCL, the KCL Law Society and the Post Graduate Law Society organize a lot (it is impressive) of events with firms, law firms or social activities. I know it is not the same for all universities.
At KCL we also have a good relationship with LSE law students and we have some events together. In contrast, we never met any UCL or QMUL students at events organized by LSE, KCL or law firms.

I hope it helps and that students from other universities will do the same ;-)

PS: QMUL is 25 in law in the UK according the The Complete University Guide and 37 worldwide for QS. It is not impressive at all for me.
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fador
It is difficult to give you an answer: we all choose one LLM and we can testify only for this LLM.

It depends on so many -personal- factors: the reputation of the university in your country, modules you want to attend, alumni in law firms you would like to apply and so on...

Personally I choose the LLM in International Financial Law at KCL and I have no regret. It is a great experience and I have met wonderful people from 63 countries! In France KCL is very prestigious (better than UCL, QMUL or LSE) and according to rankings the LLM in Financial Law is one of the best worldwide (5th according to this website). I wanted to expand my knowledge in financial regulation and I took very interesting modules like EU Financial Regulation, Financial Risk, Stability & Regulation and also Competition Law in Financial Services. Some other students are focus on "pure" financial law and Professor Ravi Teneekoon is a top gun for them. Look all the modules available on the website. What I like at KCL is that I can choose all my modules: I also decided to take Negotiation, Global Law in Climate Change... even though they are not directly linked to financial law!
For all my modules my professors have invited guest lecturers and it was very well appreciated.
It is also important to say that KCL, the KCL Law Society and the Post Graduate Law Society organize a lot (it is impressive) of events with firms, law firms or social activities. I know it is not the same for all universities.
At KCL we also have a good relationship with LSE law students and we have some events together. In contrast, we never met any UCL or QMUL students at events organized by LSE, KCL or law firms.

I hope it helps and that students from other universities will do the same ;-)

PS: QMUL is 25 in law in the UK according the The Complete University Guide and 37 worldwide for QS. It is not impressive at all for me.


Hi,

I wanted to thank you for your very detaild and helpul reply! I really apprecite having an input from someone that has actually attended King's. The regulation of financial markets is actually my main interest too, so your reply was extremely helpful :).
I have decided on King's College now and cannot wait to start in semptember.

Thanks again and cheers
[quote]It is difficult to give you an answer: we all choose one LLM and we can testify only for this LLM.

It depends on so many -personal- factors: the reputation of the university in your country, modules you want to attend, alumni in law firms you would like to apply and so on...

Personally I choose the LLM in International Financial Law at KCL and I have no regret. It is a great experience and I have met wonderful people from 63 countries! In France KCL is very prestigious (better than UCL, QMUL or LSE) and according to rankings the LLM in Financial Law is one of the best worldwide (5th according to this website). I wanted to expand my knowledge in financial regulation and I took very interesting modules like EU Financial Regulation, Financial Risk, Stability & Regulation and also Competition Law in Financial Services. Some other students are focus on "pure" financial law and Professor Ravi Teneekoon is a top gun for them. Look all the modules available on the website. What I like at KCL is that I can choose all my modules: I also decided to take Negotiation, Global Law in Climate Change... even though they are not directly linked to financial law!
For all my modules my professors have invited guest lecturers and it was very well appreciated.
It is also important to say that KCL, the KCL Law Society and the Post Graduate Law Society organize a lot (it is impressive) of events with firms, law firms or social activities. I know it is not the same for all universities.
At KCL we also have a good relationship with LSE law students and we have some events together. In contrast, we never met any UCL or QMUL students at events organized by LSE, KCL or law firms.

I hope it helps and that students from other universities will do the same ;-)

PS: QMUL is 25 in law in the UK according the The Complete University Guide and 37 worldwide for QS. It is not impressive at all for me.[/quote]

Hi,

I wanted to thank you for your very detaild and helpul reply! I really apprecite having an input from someone that has actually attended King's. The regulation of financial markets is actually my main interest too, so your reply was extremely helpful :).
I have decided on King's College now and cannot wait to start in semptember.

Thanks again and cheers
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Anonimax
Enjoy KCL ;-)
Enjoy KCL ;-)
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