Oxbridge chances


law01

Hi all,

I have a Second Class Upper Bachelor of Laws from the University of Malta and a 76% average- just missed first class by one spot. By the time I apply for an LLM I would also have hopefully completed my Doctor of Laws postgrd degree. Anyone know what my chances of getting into a top Uni like Oxbridge or LSE is?


Depends on what is the 76% when converted to UK grading. In the Uk 76 is a first, and a really high one. But if a 76 in Malta means a 50-55 in the UK then no you will not be accepted. Even though nothing stops you for trying, you never know :)

<blockquote>Hi all,

I have a Second Class Upper Bachelor of Laws from the University of Malta and a 76% average- just missed first class by one spot. By the time I apply for an LLM I would also have hopefully completed my Doctor of Laws postgrd degree. Anyone know what my chances of getting into a top Uni like Oxbridge or LSE is?</blockquote>

Depends on what is the 76% when converted to UK grading. In the Uk 76 is a first, and a really high one. But if a 76 in Malta means a 50-55 in the UK then no you will not be accepted. Even though nothing stops you for trying, you never know :)
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LLM2016

Thanks! Yeah, I guess I will have to apply in order to find out!

No, no 76% is high here too but only the top 4 students from 170 get a first class degree, unfortunately.

Thanks again for your help

Thanks! Yeah, I guess I will have to apply in order to find out!

No, no 76% is high here too but only the top 4 students from 170 get a first class degree, unfortunately.

Thanks again for your help
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law01

Thanks! Yeah, I guess I will have to apply in order to find out!

No, no 76% is high here too but only the top 4 students from 170 get a first class degree, unfortunately.

Thanks again for your help


I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge! Will be doing the barrister though next year so I might re-apply for masters next year! So give it a go! If you have strong references and a good personal statement and cv you will have as much chance as anyone else!

<blockquote>Thanks! Yeah, I guess I will have to apply in order to find out!

No, no 76% is high here too but only the top 4 students from 170 get a first class degree, unfortunately.

Thanks again for your help</blockquote>

I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge! Will be doing the barrister though next year so I might re-apply for masters next year! So give it a go! If you have strong references and a good personal statement and cv you will have as much chance as anyone else!
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Mark W


I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge!


I have not heard of anyone getting in to Oxford with a 2:1 apart from one post from a few years ago that someone already at Oxford for undergrad applied with a predicted first, got offered a place conditional on a first, then missed it by 1% and was accepted anyway. I don't think the rest of us have much chance with a 2:1 to be honest :(

But hopefully you will bring your grades up to a first anyway :)

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I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge! </blockquote>

I have not heard of anyone getting in to Oxford with a 2:1 apart from one post from a few years ago that someone already at Oxford for undergrad applied with a predicted first, got offered a place conditional on a first, then missed it by 1% and was accepted anyway. I don't think the rest of us have much chance with a 2:1 to be honest :(

But hopefully you will bring your grades up to a first anyway :)
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law01


I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge!


I have not heard of anyone getting in to Oxford with a 2:1 apart from one post from a few years ago that someone already at Oxford for undergrad applied with a predicted first, got offered a place conditional on a first, then missed it by 1% and was accepted anyway. I don't think the rest of us have much chance with a 2:1 to be honest :(

But hopefully you will bring your grades up to a first anyway :)


i know of people who are in oxford with a 2:1, really high one but still a 2:1 + i know undergraduates that even though their offer was to get A*AA they got AAB and still got accepted

<blockquote><blockquote>
I had a high 2:1 in my second year, and I think I can bring it up to a first but most probably it will stay a 2:1, but i've heard of people getting in oxford with a 2:1 and I honestly regret I didn't apply to oxbridge! </blockquote>

I have not heard of anyone getting in to Oxford with a 2:1 apart from one post from a few years ago that someone already at Oxford for undergrad applied with a predicted first, got offered a place conditional on a first, then missed it by 1% and was accepted anyway. I don't think the rest of us have much chance with a 2:1 to be honest :(

But hopefully you will bring your grades up to a first anyway :)</blockquote>

i know of people who are in oxford with a 2:1, really high one but still a 2:1 + i know undergraduates that even though their offer was to get A*AA they got AAB and still got accepted
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oi210

Unfortunately my university does not provide class ranks. However, I was one of three in my class who graduated with first class honours.


How many students were there in your class all in all?


Around 90.


Your grades fulfill the minimum standards required for an application.

But there's one more problem:

So far you only told us about your strengths.

But what about your weak points?

That scholarship you missed. That intership at Freshfields or White & Case the other guy got. That journal article you still haven't finished. That one failed exam in second year.

I'm sure there's something.

Please tell us what it is.


My main weakness (when it comes to job applications, at least) has been a lack of extra-curricular activities. Is this particularly relevant to Cambridge and Oxford? I was under the impression that extra-curriculars were more important for US universities.


Fuck, man, that's serious shit.

No extracurriculars at all?

Diverse interests and achievements are A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y mandatory for any application to Oxford or Cambridge.

I can't believe you didn't know that.

You're gonna have a hard time fixing this. Better run for those disabled kids, rainforests and immigrants now, buddy, before it's too late.

I disagree with this, this sounds like the sort of advice that is accurate for US Schools. I am on the BCL/MJur and categorically it is an academic course and they want academic people. I didnt put any extra ciriculars or work exp because it wasnt asked for on the form, and my PS was 100% explanation of why I wanted to do the specific courses from an acadmeic point of view. Its an intense academic course and not neccesarily for well rounded people. In fact I belive my tutor said "we are not looking for well rounded people who do everything, they go to Harvard, we want the ones who can study 100 hour weeks"

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Unfortunately my university does not provide class ranks. However, I was one of three in my class who graduated with first class honours. </blockquote>

How many students were there in your class all in all?</blockquote>

Around 90. </blockquote>

Your grades fulfill the minimum standards required for an application.

But there's one more problem:

So far you only told us about your strengths.

But what about your weak points?

That scholarship you missed. That intership at Freshfields or White & Case the other guy got. That journal article you still haven't finished. That one failed exam in second year.

I'm sure there's something.

Please tell us what it is.
</blockquote>

My main weakness (when it comes to job applications, at least) has been a lack of extra-curricular activities. Is this particularly relevant to Cambridge and Oxford? I was under the impression that extra-curriculars were more important for US universities. </blockquote>

Fuck, man, that's serious shit.

No extracurriculars at all?

Diverse interests and achievements are A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y mandatory for any application to Oxford or Cambridge.

I can't believe you didn't know that.

You're gonna have a hard time fixing this. Better run for those disabled kids, rainforests and immigrants now, buddy, before it's too late.

I disagree with this, this sounds like the sort of advice that is accurate for US Schools. I am on the BCL/MJur and categorically it is an academic course and they want academic people. I didnt put any extra ciriculars or work exp because it wasnt asked for on the form, and my PS was 100% explanation of why I wanted to do the specific courses from an acadmeic point of view. Its an intense academic course and not neccesarily for well rounded people. In fact I belive my tutor said "we are not looking for well rounded people who do everything, they go to Harvard, we want the ones who can study 100 hour weeks"
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Mark W

Hey there, what kind of extra-curricular activities would you guys suggest? I'm a second year law student and I'm building up my CV for Oxbridge


They don't care about your extra-curriculars, do what you like but get good grades.

<blockquote>Hey there, what kind of extra-curricular activities would you guys suggest? I'm a second year law student and I'm building up my CV for Oxbridge</blockquote>

They don't care about your extra-curriculars, do what you like but get good grades.
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Mark W

And besides the really high grades they're looking for, what else can I add to my CV to increase my chances of getting in?


Nothing, they don't care about anything else on your CV. Apart from good grades you need good references, a good personal statement, and in the case of Oxford, a good essay (Cambridge don't require a sample of written work).

Good luck, I'm applying this year as well so just restating what others have said in the past.

<blockquote>And besides the really high grades they're looking for, what else can I add to my CV to increase my chances of getting in?</blockquote>

Nothing, they don't care about anything else on your CV. Apart from good grades you need good references, a good personal statement, and in the case of Oxford, a good essay (Cambridge don't require a sample of written work).

Good luck, I'm applying this year as well so just restating what others have said in the past.
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This has probably been told over and over LLMG, but by going to the futur-uni website you can just see what other students think of your oxbridge chances !

This has probably been told over and over LLMG, but by going to the futur-uni website you can just see what other students think of your oxbridge chances !
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