Hi Everyone!

I was wondering if any new what the different reputations were for LLM (human rights law) programs in the UK in Ireland.

I am from Australia so I really don't know what the 'best school' is.

I have applied to : Queens Belfast, Galway, Essex, LSE, Nottigham, Warwick.

Any other ideas would be more that welcome.

Cheers
jo

I would say the LSE has the best record for Human Rights Law out of the ones you mention - they have a strong record in this area. Cherie Blair and Rabinder Singh are both graduates who specialise in HR and retain links with the law school. They also have a Professor called Conor Gearty who is considered to be one of, if not THE, leading HR professors in the country.

Hi Everyone!

I was wondering if any new what the different reputations were for LLM (human rights law) programs in the UK in Ireland.

I am from Australia so I really don't know what the 'best school' is.

I have applied to : Queens Belfast, Galway, Essex, LSE, Nottigham, Warwick.

Any other ideas would be more that welcome.

Cheers
jo

And how would Essex do out of the mentioned ones?

Essex reputation is not too strong in human rights. You should consider UCL as well as they have really strong human right law lecturer.

Essex was the first LLM specialising in human rights in the UK and has a number of UN special rapporteurs , as well as other academics, teaching on the LLM. I understand a number of its graduates have gone on to work in international organisations and NGOs. I would therefore disagree with the assessment that the reputation of Essex is poor - to the contrary, I think it is rather good. I think there was a contribution to a discussion about the relative merits of Nottingham (which also has a good reputation) and Essex from a current student at Essex. That may prove helpful to you.

I seriously do not know where you get your number or information from that Essex is one of the top LLM specialising in human right and also by being the first to teach human right does not mean the best. Furthermore, Essex is down the line in research and law ranking in either Times or Guardian. UCL have an extensive research on human right. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/news/
The link for you to view their current outstanding PhD student is all studying human right issue. Their lecturer just publish new book on European Convention on Human Right as well and Professor Jorg Fedtke is another authority in human right aspect.

Essex reputation is not too strong in human rights.

thank you for your comments so far.

hmm... funny, i otherwise have heard very good things of essex (not that i heard bad things from ucl) also on this forum. is essex just worse than ucl or not good in your opinion?

i'm also considering
-Nottingham
-NUI Galway
-Queens Belfast
there is also a cross border llm for Galway/Belfast
-Hull

-Leiden
-Oslo
this two seem to have public international law schemes and i'm not sure if they focus on human rights

besides essex i'm very much interested in nottingham and galway. but i'm very open to the other courses i have mentioned or even to those not mentioned. i'm a bit late in the application process (eg. LSE or Lund are already closed) and i can't afford an llm in the US. any comments or hints to help me with my decision and application would be very much appreciated!

Essex reputation is not too strong in human rights.

Dear lakaria, everyone knows that Essex is strong in human rights. Just take a look at the faculty profiles. I think you should do some more research before giving advice in this board. Many people will partly base their decisions on the information they gather from websites like the llm-guide.

I guess this the post lmwoods referred to:
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/38959/last#last

it is just not good compare to ucl and for reply to those above I did the research that why I offer a link of ucl for the person reference so please look at my post carefully before responding and furthermore, I also base my judgement on ranking so which is another substantial proof.so far all the people saying Essex is good why I didnt see anyone mention the law or research ranking or any specific lecturer which i did so the person who criticize me in this post is either having a dellusion on reality or serious lack of research on his part

I seriously do not know where you get your number or information from that Essex is one of the top LLM specialising in human right and also by being the first to teach human right does not mean the best. Furthermore, Essex is down the line in research and law ranking in either Times or Guardian. UCL have an extensive research on human right. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/news/
The link for you to view their current outstanding PhD student is all studying human right issue. Their lecturer just publish new book on European Convention on Human Right as well and Professor Jorg Fedtke is another authority in human right aspect.

Hello everyone,
Thanks for the responses to my post.
After a couple of weeks of research, I've found out quite a lot.

I am inclined to agree with Fleur and strongly disagree with Lakaria.

The problem with looking at university rankings, is that it doesn't really allow for expertise in a specialist area, such as human rights law. Just because Essex may rank low in terms of "law" generally, doesn't say anything about its human rights program.

The best way to assess a university is to look at the staff and the units. Further, discuss with people in the field and get their expertise.

Everyone I have spoken to in the field of human rights, mostly those in Geneva but who were educated in the UK, strongly recommend Essex, Nottingham, LSE, Galway and Warwick. But, Essex, Nottigham, Galway come up on top.

Hope that helps. If any one wants to talk about that anymore (I'm still in the process of deciding and would love to chat), send me an email pogomail@bigpond.net.au

jo

Nottingham and Essex are the best ones. Essex has a better reputation whereas Nottingham has the best academic in this area. Professors Michael O'Flaherty, Dirk Van Zyl Smit, Robert McCorquodale etc.

Nottingham and Essex are the best ones. Essex has a better reputation whereas Nottingham has the best academic in this area. Professors Michael O'Flaherty, Dirk Van Zyl Smit, Robert McCorquodale etc.

Expertise Summaries

Especially for Field Operations
M O'Flaherty: Professor of Applied Human Rights and Co-Director of the Human Rights Law Centre. He read law at University College Dublin (BCL), theology and philosophy at the GregorianUniversity , Rome (BPh, STB), international relations at the University of Amsterdam (MA, MPhil) and is a Solicitor of the Irish Courts. Since 2004 he has been an elected member of the United Nations Human Rights Committee.

Until December 2003, Michael O'Flaherty was a senior research officer at the UNICEF Innocenti Research Centre. Previous UN postings include, coordination of the Asia and the Pacific programmes at the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, establishment of the UN human rights field operations in Sierra Leone and Bosnia and Herzegovina, Secretary of the UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination and UN human rights advisor for implementation of the Dayton Peace Agreement. From 2000 to 2002 he chaired the UN reference group on human rights and humanitarian action.

His research interests are in the field of human rights, with particular reference to conflict and post-conflict situations and the law and practice of United Nations human rights treaty bodies. He has published extensively on these and related topics. His most recent book is Human Rights Field Operations, Law, Theory and Practice (ed., Ashgate, 2007).

Michael O'Flaherty is a Visiting Professor at the Sant'Anna School of Advanced Studies (Pisa), Fellow of Kingston University and serves as an advisor to a number of international organisations, including OHCHR, UNICEF, the Sierra Leone Special Court and many non-governmental organizations worldwide. He is a member of the editorial boards of the Human Rights Law Review, the Irish Yearbook of International Law; advisory committees of the European Roma Rights Centre (Budapest), the Diplomacy Training Programme (Sydney) and the UN-UK Association (London); and the Council of the European Inter-university Centre for Human Rights and Democratisation (Venice).
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Prison Law:
Dirk van Zyl Smit: Professor of Comparative and International Penal Law at the University of Nottingham. He is also an Advocate of the High Court of South Africa. In recent years he has also been a visiting professor at the Humboldt University in Berlin and the Paul Cezanne University in Aix en Provence and a Senior Fulbright Research Fellow at the New York University School of Law.

His books include Taking Life Imprisonment Seriously in National and International Law (2002) and South African Prison Law and Practice (1992), as well as Prison Labour: Salvation or Slavery? International Perspectives (1999). Imprisonment Today and Tomorrow - International Perspectives on Prisoners' Rights and Prison Conditions (1991, 2nd ed. 2001), both edited together with Frieder Dünkel. He is co-editor of Punishment and Society and the author of many articles on criminological theory and on sentencing and imprisonment.

In South Africa Dirk van Zyl Smit was actively involved in law reform as the primary consultant for the Correctional Services Act 1998 and a member of the National Council on Correctional Services from 1995 to 2004. He was also project leader of the committee of the South African Law Commission investigating sentencing and author of its report and draft legislation: a New Sentencing Framework (2000).

He has advised the government of Malawi on new prison legislation and was expert adviser to the Council of Europe on the new European Prison Rules and to the United Nations Office for Drugs and Crime on its handbook on alternatives to imprisonment
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Also R McCorquodale, Professor of Int. Law and Human Rights Law; Noel Whitty, Professor of Human Rights Law.

www.nottingham.ac.uk/law/ you should click the staff tab on the left

If you check their resume and write an e-mail to them, I am sure that they will contact you.