KCL or UCL for Commercial law


stenley

I have some problem with ranking issue as King's was ranked 9th last year at

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law⊂=21&x=14&y=11

and UCL is always from last 10 years ranked better than LSE, see the data of last year..

It made me difficult to decide between KCL or UCL , but i have heard that there are also some good professors in UCL for Commercial laws...

So how to choose between KCL and UCL as i am not aware about professors at UCL , but i believe UCL modules are better than King's.

I need your suggestions as how to choose between KCL and UCL..

I have some problem with ranking issue as King's was ranked 9th last year at

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law⊂=21&x=14&y=11

and UCL is always from last 10 years ranked better than LSE, see the data of last year..

It made me difficult to decide between KCL or UCL , but i have heard that there are also some good professors in UCL for Commercial laws...

So how to choose between KCL and UCL as i am not aware about professors at UCL , but i believe UCL modules are better than King's.

I need your suggestions as how to choose between KCL and UCL..
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Russ

Your ranking information is outdated. King's is ranked 4th in The Times 2009 ranking: http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law

Your ranking information is outdated. King's is ranked 4th in The Times 2009 ranking: http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversityguide.php?AC_sub=Law
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stenley

I have no support from anyone to say about a word for UCL..... i have seen in past posts that KCL has good faculty for financial and competition law... but it was ranked in past at 9th... on the other hand, UCL is always among top 5, except for this year King's got 4th rank..
I intend to study international tax, financial laws,M & A, competition laws.. but confuse between KCL and UCL ...
Any suggestion?

I have no support from anyone to say about a word for UCL..... i have seen in past posts that KCL has good faculty for financial and competition law... but it was ranked in past at 9th... on the other hand, UCL is always among top 5, except for this year King's got 4th rank..
I intend to study international tax, financial laws,M & A, competition laws.. but confuse between KCL and UCL ...
Any suggestion?
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Dinu

Head of King's Commercial Law - Professor RJ Hooley

Former tenant at the top commercial chambers in the country - Fountain Court Chambers - former chambers of Lord Bingham, Former Attorney General Tom Goldsmith and Advocate General Francis Jacobs.

The Commercial Law faculty at King's is very strong.

Head of King's Commercial Law - Professor RJ Hooley

Former tenant at the top commercial chambers in the country - Fountain Court Chambers - former chambers of Lord Bingham, Former Attorney General Tom Goldsmith and Advocate General Francis Jacobs.

The Commercial Law faculty at King's is very strong.
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Dinu

Just if anyone is interested!

He is also a consultant for Allen and Overy.

http://kcl.ac.uk/schools/law/about/staff/h/hooleyr.html

And for more info.:

http://www.fountaincourt.co.uk/

Just if anyone is interested!

He is also a consultant for Allen and Overy.

http://kcl.ac.uk/schools/law/about/staff/h/hooleyr.html

And for more info.:

http://www.fountaincourt.co.uk/
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CR1

both universities are good, obviously, but and after some personal research of the courses and profs, I would personally lean toward KCL in this particular specialization.

both universities are good, obviously, but and after some personal research of the courses and profs, I would personally lean toward KCL in this particular specialization.
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Alawyer

UCL is the best in Commercial law.. visit the website and you will see..

Commercial and Corporate Law
Commercial and corporate law form a major part of the facultys LLM and graduate research programmes under the auspices of the Centre for Commercial Law. The Centre for Commercial Law promotes excellence in the research and teaching of international commercial law. Through its published work and the many projects undertaken for UK, EC and international agencies, the centres aim is to contribute to the critical understanding of the socioeconomic
and political dimensions of commercial transactions and
regulatory regimes. An important aspect of the centres role is to bridge the gap between academic law and its practical application.
Graduate students who want to specialise in these areas can
choose from a broad range of Masters subjects taught by
members of the faculty, who include internationally recognised experts in highly specialised fields of commercial law. The faculty maintains close links with distinguished practitioners in City law firms, who provide valuable contributions to graduate teaching in the faculty.
Members of the centres academic staff include:

Professor Richard Calnan
Ms Alison Clarke
Professor Ian Fletcher
Professor Valentine Korah
Professor Sir Hugh Laddie QC
Professor John Lowry
Dr Riz Mokal
Professor Hiroshi Oda
Professor Philip Rawlings
Dr Arad Reisberg
Dr Fiona Smith
Professor Robert Stevens.

I believe it is need less to say about these professors...

UCL is the best in Commercial law.. visit the website and you will see..

Commercial and Corporate Law
Commercial and corporate law form a major part of the faculty’s LLM and graduate research programmes under the auspices of the Centre for Commercial Law. The Centre for Commercial Law promotes excellence in the research and teaching of international commercial law. Through its published work and the many projects undertaken for UK, EC and international agencies, the centre’s aim is to contribute to the critical understanding of the socioeconomic
and political dimensions of commercial transactions and
regulatory regimes. An important aspect of the centre’s role is to bridge the gap between academic law and its practical application.
Graduate students who want to specialise in these areas can
choose from a broad range of Master’s subjects taught by
members of the faculty, who include internationally recognised experts in highly specialised fields of commercial law. The faculty maintains close links with distinguished practitioners in City law firms, who provide valuable contributions to graduate teaching in the faculty.
Members of the centre’s academic staff include:

• Professor Richard Calnan
• Ms Alison Clarke
• Professor Ian Fletcher
• Professor Valentine Korah
• Professor Sir Hugh Laddie QC
• Professor John Lowry
• Dr Riz Mokal
• Professor Hiroshi Oda
• Professor Philip Rawlings
• Dr Arad Reisberg
• Dr Fiona Smith
• Professor Robert Stevens.

I believe it is need less to say about these professors...
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Alawyer

I believe this may show you modules at UCL

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/prospective/llm/index.shtml?llm_specdegree

I believe this may show you modules at UCL

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/prospective/llm/index.shtml?llm_specdegree
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Banker

Just few comments - currently studying banking & finance at UCL.
My modules are as folows:

Secured Transaction - Prof. Stevens- used to teach in OXford the best teacher I have ever seen

Corporate Finance - tought at the same time by professor D.Prentice (teaching primarly at Oxford) and Dr. Rriesberg. DP is really top top top! its real experince to listen to his lectures!

International Finance - Prof. Graham Pen (head of bankng finance at Sidley Austin) / excellent.

Reg. of Financial Markets - very bad.

Moreover:

at UCL - there is no tax law

competition law seems to be better at Kings since some of my schoolmates attend lectures at Kings.

M&A at UCL - middle - nothing special.

Generely it seems to me that at UCL students are forced to work more than at KCL (just my impression)......

Maybe it helps....

Just few comments - currently studying banking & finance at UCL.
My modules are as folows:

Secured Transaction - Prof. Stevens- used to teach in OXford the best teacher I have ever seen

Corporate Finance - tought at the same time by professor D.Prentice (teaching primarly at Oxford) and Dr. Rriesberg. DP is really top top top! its real experince to listen to his lectures!

International Finance - Prof. Graham Pen (head of bankng finance at Sidley Austin) / excellent.

Reg. of Financial Markets - very bad.

Moreover:

at UCL - there is no tax law

competition law seems to be better at Kings since some of my schoolmates attend lectures at Kings.

M&A at UCL - middle - nothing special.

Generely it seems to me that at UCL students are forced to work more than at KCL (just my impression)......

Maybe it helps....
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stenley

How do you rate the reputation of KCL or UCL in the Law Firms at London after LLM in Commercial law? however UCL has no International Tax, and M & A is not that good..

How do you rate the reputation of KCL or UCL in the Law Firms at London after LLM in Commercial law? however UCL has no International Tax, and M & A is not that good..
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I would be interested to hear people's views on this topic. I notice on the UCL Law faculty website that they recently earned the top spot of number one law school in the UK, (see http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/news/) but this might relate to their undergrad program, and as with all ranking tables, it is possible that distorted, one-off, freakish results can be achieved.

I think the real questions I would like to know the answers to are:

- would a 2:1 commercial law LLM from King's or UCL help get a traineeship interview with a big London firm?
- would either LLM open more doors than the other? (because of reputation)
- would it be much easier to score higher grades in one of these colleges than in the other?

I would be interested to hear people's views on this topic. I notice on the UCL Law faculty website that they recently earned the top spot of number one law school in the UK, (see http://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/news/) but this might relate to their undergrad program, and as with all ranking tables, it is possible that distorted, one-off, freakish results can be achieved.

I think the real questions I would like to know the answers to are:

- would a 2:1 commercial law LLM from King's or UCL help get a traineeship interview with a big London firm?
- would either LLM open more doors than the other? (because of reputation)
- would it be much easier to score higher grades in one of these colleges than in the other?
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I am a law student from india and am in a similar dilema. i need to chose between ucl and kcl. subjects of interest include M&A and competition law.

I am a law student from india and am in a similar dilema. i need to chose between ucl and kcl. subjects of interest include M&A and competition law.
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CR1

I think KCL is better especially for M&A, competition courses and has some very interesting finance law courses being taught by Tennekon/Dalhuisen/Lomnicka
UCL is excellent obviously but I would go for KCL in this field

I think KCL is better especially for M&A, competition courses and has some very interesting finance law courses being taught by Tennekon/Dalhuisen/Lomnicka
UCL is excellent obviously but I would go for KCL in this field
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thank you so much for your input...

thank you so much for your input...
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