Glasgow or Swansea?


rockpaul

I know that it is very common to submit posts of similar subjects but I really want somebody to help me.I' ve got conditional offers from Newcastle in International Business Law LLM, from Glasgow in International Commercial Law LLM and an unconditional offer from Swansea University in International Commercial & Maritime Law LLM. I am between Glasgow and Swansea but I am far from sure which one to choose. I think Glasgow is far more reputed in the law area than Swansea. All in all, I would really appreciate if anyone answer to my post and help me out. Any current students of these schools or alumnis would be of great help to me.
Thank You In Advance

I know that it is very common to submit posts of similar subjects but I really want somebody to help me.I' ve got conditional offers from Newcastle in International Business Law LLM, from Glasgow in International Commercial Law LLM and an unconditional offer from Swansea University in International Commercial & Maritime Law LLM. I am between Glasgow and Swansea but I am far from sure which one to choose. I think Glasgow is far more reputed in the law area than Swansea. All in all, I would really appreciate if anyone answer to my post and help me out. Any current students of these schools or alumnis would be of great help to me.
Thank You In Advance
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rockpaul

Anyone willing to help?

Anyone willing to help?
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Glasgow...without a doubt.

Glasgow...without a doubt.
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rockpaul

Thank you for you answer! Are you pleased with your llm in Glasgow?Is the particular llm I am going to study(international commercail law) well reputed?

Thank you for you answer! Are you pleased with your llm in Glasgow?Is the particular llm I am going to study(international commercail law) well reputed?
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kosta

Swansea has a very good reputation in commercial and maritime law- certainly by employers- you will do well to check the work that their Institute does- www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl

Also student experience is very satisfying at Swansea!
I am a Swansea LLM graduate by the way and noticed how respected its LLM degree is after graduation when looking for jobs.

Swansea has a very good reputation in commercial and maritime law- certainly by employers- you will do well to check the work that their Institute does- www.swansea.ac.uk/law/istl

Also student experience is very satisfying at Swansea!
I am a Swansea LLM graduate by the way and noticed how respected its LLM degree is after graduation when looking for jobs.
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I'm having an amazing time here, though the course out here is very demanding but enjoying every bit of it. I'm also doing my LLM in International Commercial Law. Perhaps one of the best faculties out here in UK. It's worth it...

I'm having an amazing time here, though the course out here is very demanding but enjoying every bit of it. I'm also doing my LLM in International Commercial Law. Perhaps one of the best faculties out here in UK. It's worth it...
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Eppendorf

I'm having an amazing time here, though the course out here is very demanding but enjoying every bit of it. I'm also doing my LLM in International Commercial Law. Perhaps one of the best faculties out here in UK. It's worth it...


"One of the best faculties out here in the UK?"

Glasgow?

You gotta be kiddin' me.

Glasgow!

That's pretty much Buxton 'shit law' Alabama with bad food on top!

That's what it is.

Nuttin' else.

<blockquote>I'm having an amazing time here, though the course out here is very demanding but enjoying every bit of it. I'm also doing my LLM in International Commercial Law. Perhaps one of the best faculties out here in UK. It's worth it... </blockquote>

"One of the best faculties out here in the UK?"

Glasgow?

You gotta be kiddin' me.

Glasgow!

That's pretty much Buxton 'shit law' Alabama with bad food on top!

That's what it is.

Nuttin' else.
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rockpaul

Wow ! You were a little harsh ... Actually what is your opinion? The truth is that Glasgow during the last years has outnumbered a lot of popular british law schools in rankings.

Wow ! You were a little harsh ... Actually what is your opinion? The truth is that Glasgow during the last years has outnumbered a lot of popular british law schools in rankings.
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law01

NEVER look at the rankings! NEVER! I went to a very high ranked university and I left after my first year because the level there was terrible and the tutors were shit! I went to a not so high ranked uni, in the same city as i wanted for personal reasons to stay there, and the level was exceptional! The rankings are shit! now about the swansea/glascow debate i would say glascow, not because i consider it to be good, on the contrary, but i know nothing about swansea! Haven't you applied anywhere else??

NEVER look at the rankings! NEVER! I went to a very high ranked university and I left after my first year because the level there was terrible and the tutors were shit! I went to a not so high ranked uni, in the same city as i wanted for personal reasons to stay there, and the level was exceptional! The rankings are shit! now about the swansea/glascow debate i would say glascow, not because i consider it to be good, on the contrary, but i know nothing about swansea! Haven't you applied anywhere else??
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law01

Just noticed Newcastle ! Whyyy would you chose glascow over newcastle??? Newcastle hands down!

Just noticed Newcastle ! Whyyy would you chose glascow over newcastle??? Newcastle hands down!
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kosta

I agree- rankings mean nothing! most of teh data used to produce rankings relate to LLB degree i.e. number of A level scores, grades of LLB graduates, money spent on each LLB student etc. When it comes to LLM- the question is whether it is a degree which is taught by experts and how well it is regarded by the practice- teh rest is what marketing departments use to lure overseas students in
Kosta

I agree- rankings mean nothing! most of teh data used to produce rankings relate to LLB degree i.e. number of A level scores, grades of LLB graduates, money spent on each LLB student etc. When it comes to LLM- the question is whether it is a degree which is taught by experts and how well it is regarded by the practice- teh rest is what marketing departments use to lure overseas students in
Kosta
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law01

From my experience i can tell you that many, if not most, smart people go to lower ranked unis, i think because top unis only base their choices on a-levels so they get the 'nerds' and not the smart ones! As i said i left from a top ranked uni because the level was very low, i went to a mid-ranked uni and i can say i met some brilliant people. One of them isndoing a masters now and next year will be doing his phd at harvard!

From my experience i can tell you that many, if not most, smart people go to lower ranked unis, i think because top unis only base their choices on a-levels so they get the 'nerds' and not the smart ones! As i said i left from a top ranked uni because the level was very low, i went to a mid-ranked uni and i can say i met some brilliant people. One of them isndoing a masters now and next year will be doing his phd at harvard!
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rockpaul

Kosta and Law01 thank you very much for your answers and the information you provided.Actually, I am one step from going to Swansea and the reason is that I believe the professors will be more approachable in comparison to the ones in Unis such as Glasgow. Furthermore, in Glasgow's website you can not have access to the particular professors that lead each course.Apart from that Swansea offer some maritime courses a field in which their insitution is very famous. I can't be 100% sure about my choice but from what you have mentioned rankings can not be taken seriously.
Thank you very much once again!!!

Kosta and Law01 thank you very much for your answers and the information you provided.Actually, I am one step from going to Swansea and the reason is that I believe the professors will be more approachable in comparison to the ones in Unis such as Glasgow. Furthermore, in Glasgow's website you can not have access to the particular professors that lead each course.Apart from that Swansea offer some maritime courses a field in which their insitution is very famous. I can't be 100% sure about my choice but from what you have mentioned rankings can not be taken seriously.
Thank you very much once again!!!
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rockpaul

Just to be accurate I only wait answers from Birmingham and Edinburgh

Just to be accurate I only wait answers from Birmingham and Edinburgh
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tellos

excuse me but these arguments if u can call them that are rediculus.Glasgow is one of the top law schools in the world and a leading uk univercity.Swansy is a med-ranked law school which yes will provide u a closer contact with the teachers.Because there not as well know as glasgows which are worldwide reputed.but that doesnt meant swansey is better .it will be easier and less demanding though , if u care about that.

excuse me but these arguments if u can call them that are rediculus.Glasgow is one of the top law schools in the world and a leading uk univercity.Swansy is a med-ranked law school which yes will provide u a closer contact with the teachers.Because there not as well know as glasgows which are worldwide reputed.but that doesnt meant swansey is better .it will be easier and less demanding though , if u care about that.
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law01

excuse me but these arguments if u can call them that are rediculus.Glasgow is one of the top law schools in the world and a leading uk univercity.Swansy is a med-ranked law school which yes will provide u a closer contact with the teachers.Because there not as well know as glasgows which are worldwide reputed.but that doesnt meant swansey is better .it will be easier and less demanding though , if u care about that.


hmm, ok we had this argument in a different thread but it seems you want another go.... 1) a lawyer should be able to support his view, and I am quite sure that calling someone elses' view ridiculous does not support your view. 2) we are here because we want to acknowledge and conceive the views of other people, if you don't like it then simply don't use this site. 3) glascow does NOT, by any means, have a worldwide reputation. 4) University rankings ARE NOT ACCURATE! 5) I have experience from a top-10 university, the level was below par, the teaching was mediocre. 6) what you said that the course in a low-reputed university will easier and less demanding does not stand. High ranked universities are more likely to give high marks as it makes them even more reputable!! It wouldn't be good for their reputation to have people failing would it?? while 'low-ranked' universities try to be as more strict as possible in order to have as high level of students as possible.

So please accept the views of other people, from what i've seen from your profile you have not studied in the UK so you have no idea how it all works.

Last remark: for someone who wants to practice/work in the uk is he has to chose between glascow and swansea then he will choose swansea as it's in wales therefore it is governed by the same legal system as england! while scotland has minor differences which will enlarge if the gain their independence in a few months time, and they won't even be governed by eu law! so for whoever wants to work in an eu country studying in a non-eu country would not be a good choice!

<blockquote>excuse me but these arguments if u can call them that are rediculus.Glasgow is one of the top law schools in the world and a leading uk univercity.Swansy is a med-ranked law school which yes will provide u a closer contact with the teachers.Because there not as well know as glasgows which are worldwide reputed.but that doesnt meant swansey is better .it will be easier and less demanding though , if u care about that.</blockquote>

hmm, ok we had this argument in a different thread but it seems you want another go.... 1) a lawyer should be able to support his view, and I am quite sure that calling someone elses' view ridiculous does not support your view. 2) we are here because we want to acknowledge and conceive the views of other people, if you don't like it then simply don't use this site. 3) glascow does NOT, by any means, have a worldwide reputation. 4) University rankings ARE NOT ACCURATE! 5) I have experience from a top-10 university, the level was below par, the teaching was mediocre. 6) what you said that the course in a low-reputed university will easier and less demanding does not stand. High ranked universities are more likely to give high marks as it makes them even more reputable!! It wouldn't be good for their reputation to have people failing would it?? while 'low-ranked' universities try to be as more strict as possible in order to have as high level of students as possible.

So please accept the views of other people, from what i've seen from your profile you have not studied in the UK so you have no idea how it all works.

Last remark: for someone who wants to practice/work in the uk is he has to chose between glascow and swansea then he will choose swansea as it's in wales therefore it is governed by the same legal system as england! while scotland has minor differences which will enlarge if the gain their independence in a few months time, and they won't even be governed by eu law! so for whoever wants to work in an eu country studying in a non-eu country would not be a good choice!
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tellos

ok firstly high ranked law schools' students have better average grades because their chosen by the univercities as the best candidates and they usually are better undergrads.

i agree rankings are not the only source of finding a univercity and of cource its silly to think that n.6 is better than 9 etc but when there is a large distance between the schools its safe to say that one i bettter than the other
http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings?s=law
as u see above glasgow is n.5 and swansy 38
Regarding ur argument about the scores you can just look at the colloum students prospects .glasgow lies at 1nd position with oxford while swansy is mid table
there are a lot of rankings provided but u can compare them so u can have an average in mind such as The guardian http://www.theguardian.com/education/table/2012/may/22/university-guide-law where GU is n.14 and swansey 60
You also said glasgow has not a world wide reputation
i respect your opinion but i like facts more .Guardians survey puts GU at 1st position ragarding "Career after 6 mths".
Ialso dont evaluate high the rankings cause thy are not accurate
so could be 4th or 2nd or 10th but somewhere high for sure.No survey or ranking says that swansy is anywhere near it. I respect your opinion but i think we should care more about facts

ok firstly high ranked law schools' students have better average grades because their chosen by the univercities as the best candidates and they usually are better undergrads.

i agree rankings are not the only source of finding a univercity and of cource its silly to think that n.6 is better than 9 etc but when there is a large distance between the schools its safe to say that one i bettter than the other
http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings?s=law
as u see above glasgow is n.5 and swansy 38
Regarding ur argument about the scores you can just look at the colloum students prospects .glasgow lies at 1nd position with oxford while swansy is mid table
there are a lot of rankings provided but u can compare them so u can have an average in mind such as The guardian http://www.theguardian.com/education/table/2012/may/22/university-guide-law where GU is n.14 and swansey 60
You also said glasgow has not a world wide reputation
i respect your opinion but i like facts more .Guardians survey puts GU at 1st position ragarding "Career after 6 mths".
Ialso dont evaluate high the rankings cause thy are not accurate
so could be 4th or 2nd or 10th but somewhere high for sure.No survey or ranking says that swansy is anywhere near it. I respect your opinion but i think we should care more about facts
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tellos

also HAVE U SEEN IT ?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5zhGp1CLS1k/Tx3LOXw86bI/AAAAAAAABVU/FOn4Ewkt4B0/s1600/Panepistimio+tis+Glaskovis.jpg
(Im just joking)

also HAVE U SEEN IT ?http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5zhGp1CLS1k/Tx3LOXw86bI/AAAAAAAABVU/FOn4Ewkt4B0/s1600/Panepistimio+tis+Glaskovis.jpg
(Im just joking)
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rockpaul

Hey man... I agree with the huge difference in terms of rankings between Swansea and Glasgow. However, the truth is that the Glasgow's website doesn't provide any detailed information about each course or about the tutors in each programme. If I can't have access to such important factors how can I trust the rankings? Don't you agree about that?

Hey man... I agree with the huge difference in terms of rankings between Swansea and Glasgow. However, the truth is that the Glasgow's website doesn't provide any detailed information about each course or about the tutors in each programme. If I can't have access to such important factors how can I trust the rankings? Don't you agree about that?
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tellos

you can e mail the head teacher of the programm for details but in general the difference is so big you will expierience low quality of students in comparison with glasgow and also glasgow is a very historical and old istitution which is n important aspect at law schools

you can e mail the head teacher of the programm for details but in general the difference is so big you will expierience low quality of students in comparison with glasgow and also glasgow is a very historical and old istitution which is n important aspect at law schools
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