Best of the lot?


Which one to go to-
Aberdeen, Machester, Nottingham or Durham for International Commercial Law- I have offers from all these places...

Which one to go to-
Aberdeen, Machester, Nottingham or Durham for International Commercial Law- I have offers from all these places...
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cannaloid

I think Aberdeen is a good Uni. you should go there for sure.

I think Aberdeen is a good Uni. you should go there for sure.
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Hi cannaloid,
I read somewhere in this forum that studying in aberdeen does'nt entitle one to practice in england as a solicitor/barrister. Is it true?
Can you sit for the LPC or BVC course after doing your llm from aberdeen?

Hi cannaloid,
I read somewhere in this forum that studying in aberdeen does'nt entitle one to practice in england as a solicitor/barrister. Is it true?
Can you sit for the LPC or BVC course after doing your llm from aberdeen?
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tnuchpiam

Hi, sippi18@gmail.com.

I suppose to practice law in England and Wales, as well as in Scotland, you need an LLB (or its qualifying equivalent) first. An ordinary taught master's degree (City University, if was not mistaken, also offers a qualifying LLM) does not qualify you for either a Legal Practice Course or a Bar Professional Training Course.

If, as an international student, you are interested in practicing law in England and Wales, I think you should consult the City University Law School website. Having served as the Inns of Court School of Law for a long time, City University is an expert in this matter -- offering a full range of courses that, I suppose, serve your purpose.

Hi, sippi18@gmail.com.

I suppose to practice law in England and Wales, as well as in Scotland, you need an LLB (or its qualifying equivalent) first. An ordinary taught master's degree (City University, if was not mistaken, also offers a qualifying LLM) does not qualify you for either a Legal Practice Course or a Bar Professional Training Course.

If, as an international student, you are interested in practicing law in England and Wales, I think you should consult the City University Law School website. Having served as the Inns of Court School of Law for a long time, City University is an expert in this matter -- offering a full range of courses that, I suppose, serve your purpose.
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Hi tnuchpiam,

I knew all along that llm is a luxury of sorts...it does not qualify you for anything like LPC/BVC...and anybody can take up these two courses provided they have an LL.B degree.
I am from india and i will be graduating with LL.B degree in july so i guess an ll.m from aberdeen will not ruin my prospects to study either LPC/BVC further...

Hi tnuchpiam,

I knew all along that llm is a luxury of sorts...it does not qualify you for anything like LPC/BVC...and anybody can take up these two courses provided they have an LL.B degree.
I am from india and i will be graduating with LL.B degree in july so i guess an ll.m from aberdeen will not ruin my prospects to study either LPC/BVC further...
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vinod

Hey sippi. . .did u get the official offer letter(Not email) from DUrham??? i haven't received it inspite of their email notification a long time back..

Hey sippi. . .did u get the official offer letter(Not email) from DUrham??? i haven't received it inspite of their email notification a long time back..
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Hi vinod,

Well, i have received an email stating that they are recommending an offer and that if the offer is confirmed by the university then i will receive the offer letter in a few weeks time.
I did sent them a mail asking them to be more specific about the offer and also to attach the offer letter by mail...but they have not yet replied back :(

Which course have you applied for? Which law school are you from?

Hi vinod,

Well, i have received an email stating that they are recommending an offer and that if the offer is confirmed by the university then i will receive the offer letter in a few weeks time.
I did sent them a mail asking them to be more specific about the offer and also to attach the offer letter by mail...but they have not yet replied back :(

Which course have you applied for? Which law school are you from?
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cmars

Here's the list of top UK law schools according to the UK government: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2008/dec/18/rae-results-2008-law-degree
The editor of Schmitthoff's Export Trade: The Law and Practice of International Trade (11th and 12th editions) teaches on the LLM at Essex, at Colchester outside London.

Here's the list of top UK law schools according to the UK government: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2008/dec/18/rae-results-2008-law-degree
The editor of Schmitthoff's Export Trade: The Law and Practice of International Trade (11th and 12th editions) teaches on the LLM at Essex, at Colchester outside London.
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"PLEASE READ"
Guys sorry to break the bubble of all those vouching for how good Manchester Uni is (also known as Uniof ) but it is nothing as all of you seem to know of it above .
I got a chev scholarship and made the mistake of choosing Manchester Uni over the london ones being expensive and also because i had some relatives there and due to the costs of living which till date i regret . It is indeed embarrasing but i have to admit that i am appalled at the way LLM is conducted in this uni and for me it broke all my expectations at what education in the UK would be like . I have a million reasons not to recommend University of Manchester for LLM ( and only a few to do ) . Althought the rankings of the university have gone down in the past few years ( the rankings only represent the undergrad law school ranking btw) it is far better than what it should actually be . Most of the professors are either retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or Phd students who are usually doing it to get grants and are usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you are being stumped at usual interventions . Most of the studies are expected to take place before or after coming to class and the only thing done by professors is enlighten on topics given out of pre printed module sheets . The exams again are not fair as each question carries 33 marks and you are expected to understand and attempt all your semesters learnings at the risky attempt of 3 out of 4 questions which in my view can never justify a students ability . There have been instances where 98% students in a particular class have failed . Classes are usually 2-3 hours a day a maximum of 3 times a week leaving a lot of time for you to wonder . The Class would mostly be filled by South Asian (read India Pak SL Bangladesh) or South East Asian (Chinese Malaysian Korean ) students and a below 10% of east european students and only maybe 2%-3% of British students missing the whole point of getting an international experience as most of the British students take up LPC or training contracts after their LLB's . Finding Jobs are a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM . Anyways looks like I can go on forever here so if you have any further questions please email me or message me here and i shall be very glad to help you out . Cheers.

"PLEASE READ"
Guys sorry to break the bubble of all those vouching for how good Manchester Uni is (also known as Uniof ) but it is nothing as all of you seem to know of it above .
I got a chev scholarship and made the mistake of choosing Manchester Uni over the london ones being expensive and also because i had some relatives there and due to the costs of living which till date i regret . It is indeed embarrasing but i have to admit that i am appalled at the way LLM is conducted in this uni and for me it broke all my expectations at what education in the UK would be like . I have a million reasons not to recommend University of Manchester for LLM ( and only a few to do ) . Althought the rankings of the university have gone down in the past few years ( the rankings only represent the undergrad law school ranking btw) it is far better than what it should actually be . Most of the professors are either retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or Phd students who are usually doing it to get grants and are usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you are being stumped at usual interventions . Most of the studies are expected to take place before or after coming to class and the only thing done by professors is enlighten on topics given out of pre printed module sheets . The exams again are not fair as each question carries 33 marks and you are expected to understand and attempt all your semesters learnings at the risky attempt of 3 out of 4 questions which in my view can never justify a students ability . There have been instances where 98% students in a particular class have failed . Classes are usually 2-3 hours a day a maximum of 3 times a week leaving a lot of time for you to wonder . The Class would mostly be filled by South Asian (read India Pak SL Bangladesh) or South East Asian (Chinese Malaysian Korean ) students and a below 10% of east european students and only maybe 2%-3% of British students missing the whole point of getting an international experience as most of the British students take up LPC or training contracts after their LLB's . Finding Jobs are a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM . Anyways looks like I can go on forever here so if you have any further questions please email me or message me here and i shall be very glad to help you out . Cheers.
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tnuchpiam

I find this post defamatory. While certain allegations remain to be verified (e.g., use of "retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or PhD students who are...usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you..."), others are totally unjustified:

First, what's wrong with answering 3-4 exam questions? When I did my MA in the UK more than 30 years ago, I did the same thing.

Second, what's wrong with a class being mostly filled with "South Asians" or "Southeast Asians"? Is it not the policy of all universities in the UK, and else where in the civilised world, to admit students without any discriminations whatsoever? [By the way, Malaysians are Southeast Asian, but not Chinese and Koreans. You should broaden your knowledge in order to avoid sounding "racist" like you do in this post].

Finally, we all know that the LLM is an academic, not professional qualification. So what's wrong with the British opting for the LPC or LLB in order to be qualified to practice law in their own country? Those "South Asian" and Southeast Asian" students know this well, and most of them will go back to earn their living in their respective countries. In this light, your allegation that "finding jobs...[is]...a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM" is not only unjustified but also utterly unfair.

I find this post defamatory. While certain allegations remain to be verified (e.g., use of "retired barristers out of touch with the current happenings in the legal sphere or PhD students who are...usually not much older (knowledgeable) than you..."), others are totally unjustified:

First, what's wrong with answering 3-4 exam questions? When I did my MA in the UK more than 30 years ago, I did the same thing.

Second, what's wrong with a class being mostly filled with "South Asians" or "Southeast Asians"? Is it not the policy of all universities in the UK, and else where in the civilised world, to admit students without any discriminations whatsoever? [By the way, Malaysians are Southeast Asian, but not Chinese and Koreans. You should broaden your knowledge in order to avoid sounding "racist" like you do in this post].

Finally, we all know that the LLM is an academic, not professional qualification. So what's wrong with the British opting for the LPC or LLB in order to be qualified to practice law in their own country? Those "South Asian" and Southeast Asian" students know this well, and most of them will go back to earn their living in their respective countries. In this light, your allegation that "finding jobs...[is]...a big no no with a Manchester Uni LLM" is not only unjustified but also utterly unfair.
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Kerfuffle

Manchesterllm08's comment about using PhD students to teach is very true. Manchester prolifically uses research students to teach seminars, but unless things have changed over the past few years, PhD students were not being used on a regular basis to deliver the LLM programme.

Manchesterllm08's comment about using PhD students to teach is very true. Manchester prolifically uses research students to teach seminars, but unless things have changed over the past few years, PhD students were not being used on a regular basis to deliver the LLM programme.

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