URGENT : PASSING JD AS AN EU STUDENT


miru

hi ! :)

my wish is to be a corporate lawyer but as an international level working for american/uk law firms .As a french i have to put my "wishes" on parcoursup ( its like UCAS in UK )and all my wishes are double degrees in France/UK or France/Ireland. for France/Ireland which is one of the cheapest and interesting choice , i will stay 2 years in france+ 2 years in Ireland and i will be graduated at the end with a bachelor of law , a DU (uni degree in common law ) and a bachelor in france.

After that , they're proposing an LLM in double degree in France/Ireland but i heard that getting a LLM degree will not be that helpful in US because they don' t know what to do with the students and most firms are getting students back to their home.For getting an high paid job which is my objectif i have to take the bar exam but most of all , a JD. I know that even if i'm just 17 rn , i want to take the NY bar exam so i can have a job in us but getting a decent job with an LLM annoys me .

(my dream is to live in a commonwealth country as uk / us or australia).

Can someone helps me with what i have to do for getting a JD? Can i move in a US uni after getting my LLB? is an LLB and a LLM useful at least in UK for getting an high-paid job?

Thank u so much for everyone taking their time for responding to this post!

[Edited by miru on Jan 16, 2021]

hi ! :)<br>
my wish is to be a corporate lawyer but as an international level working for american/uk law firms .As a french i have to put my "wishes" on parcoursup ( its like UCAS in UK )and all my wishes are double degrees in France/UK or France/Ireland. for France/Ireland which is one of the cheapest and interesting choice , i will stay 2 years in france+ 2 years in Ireland and i will be graduated at the end with a bachelor of law , a DU (uni degree in common law ) and a bachelor in france. <br>
After that , they're proposing an LLM in double degree in France/Ireland but i heard that getting a LLM degree will not be that helpful in US because they don' t know what to do with the students and most firms are getting students back to their home.For getting an high paid job which is my objectif i have to take the bar exam but most of all , a JD. I know that even if i'm just 17 rn , i want to take the NY bar exam so i can have a job in us but getting a decent job with an LLM annoys me .<br>
(my dream is to live in a commonwealth country as uk / us or australia).<br>
Can someone helps me with what i have to do for getting a JD? Can i move in a US uni after getting my LLB? is an LLB and a LLM useful at least in UK for getting an high-paid job?<br>
Thank u so much for everyone taking their time for responding to this post!
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LuLu100

Hi Miru - don’t go with the dual Irish degree option, definitely go with the dual-U.K. one, if you can. You have other options though - if you want we can talk about it over the phone? I’m new to this site but if you send me a private message (I assume you can do that here) we can schedule a call.

If helpful for background, I’ve been at a top US firm in London for nearly 5 years and I am now a mid-level associate (Banking & Finance). We all get paid Cravath-scale (ie you start on $190k as a first year) so if your aim is just to make bank, then stay in the U.K. where becoming a lawyer is relatively easy and you get paid the same. 

To be a US lawyer you have to be US-qualified so you need to sit the bar and typically you’re required to do an LLM and even then you’re not going to be hired in the US but typically abroad. Cost/benefit wise it doesn’t add up. 

Also btw top Irish firm salaries are lower than France (our Paris office, all French qualified, earn considerably more, starting at around €100k for associates).

Hi Miru - don’t go with the dual Irish degree option, definitely go with the dual-U.K. one, if you can. You have other options though - if you want we can talk about it over the phone? I’m new to this site but if you send me a private message (I assume you can do that here) we can schedule a call.<br><br>If helpful for background, I’ve been at a top US firm in London for nearly 5 years and I am now a mid-level associate (Banking &amp; Finance). We all get paid Cravath-scale (ie you start on $190k as a first year) so if your aim is just to make bank, then stay in the U.K. where becoming a lawyer is relatively easy and you get paid the same.&nbsp;<br><br>To be a US lawyer you have to be US-qualified so you need to sit the bar and typically you’re required to do an LLM and even then you’re not going to be hired in the US but typically abroad.&nbsp;Cost/benefit wise it doesn’t add up.&nbsp;<br><br>Also btw top Irish firm salaries are lower than France (our Paris office, all French qualified, earn considerably more, starting at around €100k for associates).<br>
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miru

Hi Miru - don’t go with the dual Irish degree option, definitely go with the dual-U.K. one, if you can. You have other options though - if you want we can talk about it over the phone? I’m new to this site but if you send me a private message (I assume you can do that here) we can schedule a call.

If helpful for background, I’ve been at a top US firm in London for nearly 5 years and I am now a mid-level associate (Banking & Finance). We all get paid Cravath-scale (ie you start on $190k as a first year) so if your aim is just to make bank, then stay in the U.K. where becoming a lawyer is relatively easy and you get paid the same. 

To be a US lawyer you have to be US-qualified so you need to sit the bar and typically you’re required to do an LLM and even then you’re not going to be hired in the US but typically abroad. Cost/benefit wise it doesn’t add up. 

Also btw top Irish firm salaries are lower than France (our Paris office, all French qualified, earn considerably more, starting at around €100k for associates).

Yes , I appreciate so much your answers , it is really helpful! i'm also new to this site so i would love to talk with you !

 I know that irish /french degree isn't my choice and it's my dream to live in UK but my father wants me to study for my first year in my city which i don't want so this is why the double degree france/ irlande was the most interesting choice for me.
For France/Britain double degree i want to apply to Paris 1 sorbonne/Queen's Mary uni of london , Lyon 3/Uni of Essex who does also with Uni Paris-Nanterre and Toulouse /and uni of Bangor with toulouse and i have to look also for other unis with this double degree.

So if i understand , it's better for me to have a LLM instead of a JD and to work for a US firm in UK? and does my degree will be recognized in UK if  I do my bachelor of laws with the french/irish degree and after a LLM in UK?

[Edited by miru on Jan 16, 2021]

[quote]Hi Miru - don’t go with the dual Irish degree option, definitely go with the dual-U.K. one, if you can. You have other options though - if you want we can talk about it over the phone? I’m new to this site but if you send me a private message (I assume you can do that here) we can schedule a call.<br><br>If helpful for background, I’ve been at a top US firm in London for nearly 5 years and I am now a mid-level associate (Banking &amp; Finance). We all get paid Cravath-scale (ie you start on $190k as a first year) so if your aim is just to make bank, then stay in the U.K. where becoming a lawyer is relatively easy and you get paid the same.&nbsp;<br><br>To be a US lawyer you have to be US-qualified so you need to sit the bar and typically you’re required to do an LLM and even then you’re not going to be hired in the US but typically abroad.&nbsp;Cost/benefit wise it doesn’t add up.&nbsp;<br><br>Also btw top Irish firm salaries are lower than France (our Paris office, all French qualified, earn considerably more, starting at around €100k for associates).<br> [/quote]<br>Yes , I appreciate so much your answers , it is really helpful! i'm also new to this site so i would love to talk with you !<br><br>&nbsp;I know that irish /french degree isn't my choice and it's my dream to live in UK but my father wants me to study for my first year in my city which i don't want so this is why the double degree france/ irlande was the most interesting choice for me.<br>For France/Britain double degree i want to apply to Paris 1 sorbonne/Queen's Mary uni of london , Lyon 3/Uni of Essex who does also with Uni Paris-Nanterre and Toulouse /and uni of Bangor with toulouse and i have to look also for other unis with this double degree.<br><br>So if i understand , it's better for me to have a LLM instead of a JD and to work for a US firm in UK? and does my degree will be recognized in UK if&nbsp; I do my bachelor of laws with the french/irish degree and after a LLM in UK?
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LuLu100

I’ll send you a personal message with my number and we can talk. I speak French fluently btw, if it’s easier for you

I’ll send you a personal message with my number and we can talk. I speak French fluently btw, if it’s easier for you
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