LLM to be excluded again? NY bar exam


Eli1234

Hello, just a few hours ago, the NY bole published the eligibility criteria to sit for the exam. First, the period from Nov. 1st - Nov. 15 will be open just for JDs. Although speculative yet, there is a high chance that the NY bar will exclude us, LLMs, repeaters, as they did in the October exam. I had personally taken the exam just once a year ago. I was planning to take the exam in July this year, and then they excluded us. Only a limited number of LLMs were allowed to sit this past exam. The initial reason for exclusion was that they planned to hold an in-person exam and promote social distancing; the seats were scarce. Then, they changed the modality to be remote, so the initial reason didn't exist anymore. If this is not enough, the NY BOLE previously said that those JDs who failed the October exam would be able to re-take it. I don't know you, but I feel pretty discriminated against. I'm a foreign attorney that lives in the US and is trying to rebuild her career. These types of exclusions are simply not fair. I plan to do something, not sure what yet, but I will. If you want to join me to see what we can do, reply to this message; depending on how many are interested, I will follow up with more information.

[Edited by Eli1234 on Oct 27, 2020]

Hello, just a few hours ago, the NY bole published the eligibility criteria to sit for the exam. First, the period from Nov. 1st - Nov. 15 will be open just for JDs. Although speculative yet, there is a high chance that the NY bar will exclude us, LLMs, repeaters, as they did in the October exam. I had personally taken the exam just once a year ago. I was planning to take the exam in July this year, and then they excluded us. Only a limited number of LLMs were allowed to sit this past exam. The initial reason for exclusion was that they planned to hold an in-person exam and promote social distancing; the seats were scarce. Then, they changed the modality to be remote, so the initial reason didn't exist anymore. If this is not enough, the NY BOLE previously said that those JDs who failed the October exam would be able to re-take it. I don't know you, but I feel pretty discriminated against. I'm a foreign attorney that lives in the US and is trying to rebuild her career. These types of exclusions are simply not fair. I plan to do something, not sure what yet, but I will. If you want to join me to see what we can do, reply to this message; depending on how many are interested, I will follow up with more information.
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I am an prospective LLM student, so I don't have to sit for the bar yet. However, if what you're saying is true, that really seems unfair considering how expensive the tuition is.

I am an prospective LLM student, so I don't have to sit for the bar yet. However, if what you're saying is true, that really seems unfair considering how expensive the tuition is.
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LLMAC

It certainly is unfair to you and other foreign attorneys who have done everything right in order to sit for the NY Bar Exam.  And, it will not benefit the New York bar or our law schools, not to mention you and others like you.  

It appears from their statement that the limitation is a matter of  "the challenges posed by a large potential pool of test takers for the first full remote UBE, including the impact a large number of test-takers for the February 2021 bar exam would have on the Board's ability to adequately prepare for the July 2021 exam administration." (https://www.nybarexam.org/default.html)  
I'm not sure how the resources and responsibilities are allocated among Board members, but they were able to examine 14,200 applicants in 2019.  I don't see on there how many people were examined in 2020 or sat in October 2020.  

Pam (llmassist.com) 

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It certainly is unfair to you and other foreign attorneys who have done everything right in order to sit for the NY Bar Exam.&nbsp; And, it will not benefit the New York bar or our law schools, not to mention you and others like you.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>It appears from their statement that the limitation is a matter of&nbsp; "the challenges posed by a large potential pool of test takers<div>&nbsp;for the first full remote UBE, including the impact a large number of&nbsp;</div><div>test-takers for the February 2021 bar exam would have on the Board's&nbsp;</div><div>ability to adequately prepare for the July 2021 exam administration." (https://www.nybarexam.org/default.html)&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><br>I'm not sure how the resources and responsibilities are allocated among Board members, but they were able to examine 14,200 applicants in 2019.&nbsp; I don't see on there how many people were examined in 2020 or sat in October 2020.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>Pam (llmassist.com)&nbsp;
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I am a foreign trained attorney, living in South Africa. I had my documents assessed and was determined eligible during 2018. I wrote the NYLE and passed March 2020, was going to write UBE in July 2020 - we all know what happened. Now again, can't write in February 2021. Since it's remote, surely we should all be granted the opportunity to sit?

I am a foreign trained attorney, living in South Africa. I had my documents assessed and was determined eligible during 2018. I wrote the NYLE and passed March 2020, was going to write UBE in July 2020 - we all know what happened. Now again, can't write in February 2021. Since it's remote, surely we should all be granted the opportunity to sit?
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Spacelaw

Honestly I am relieved to see that I am not the only one feeling discriminated against and who wants to do something. 
This is incredibly frustrating, unfair, and all but appropriate coming from a Court of law.
We relied on taking the bar, we incurred expenses, took time to prepare it, made arrangement on our schedules, for our future projects and life. And here they are, barring us access to it because apparently begin a foreign makes us less important.
Keep us posted Eli1234! 

Honestly I am relieved to see that I am not the only one feeling discriminated against and who wants to do something.&nbsp;<br>This is incredibly frustrating, unfair, and all but appropriate coming from a Court of law.<br>We relied on taking the bar, we incurred expenses, took time to prepare it, made arrangement on our schedules, for our future projects and life. And here they are, barring us access to it because apparently begin a foreign makes us less important.<br>Keep us posted Eli1234!&nbsp;
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jwpetterch...

The Court of Appeal and BOLE aren’t really offering any explanation for this. I’m sorry. And the bar associations are not really forcing this, they’re just pleased that they got an online bar exam at all.

The Court of Appeal and BOLE aren’t really offering any explanation for this. I’m sorry. And the bar associations are not really forcing this, they’re just pleased that they got an online bar exam at all.<br>
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Dslaw

Hello, just a few hours ago, the NY bole published the eligibility criteria to sit for the exam. First, the period from Nov. 1st - Nov. 15 will be open just for JDs. Although speculative yet, there is a high chance that the NY bar will exclude us, LLMs, repeaters, as they did in the October exam. I had personally taken the exam just once a year ago. I was planning to take the exam in July this year, and then they excluded us. Only a limited number of LLMs were allowed to sit this past exam. The initial reason for exclusion was that they planned to hold an in-person exam and promote social distancing; the seats were scarce. Then, they changed the modality to be remote, so the initial reason didn't exist anymore. If this is not enough, the NY BOLE previously said that those JDs who failed the October exam would be able to re-take it. I don't know you, but I feel pretty discriminated against. I'm a foreign attorney that lives in the US and is trying to rebuild her career. These types of exclusions are simply not fair. I plan to do something, not sure what yet, but I will. If you want to join me to see what we can do, reply to this message; depending on how many are interested, I will follow up with more information.


Hello


Can you please send me the link where you find all this information?

thank you

[quote]Hello, just a few hours ago, the NY bole published the eligibility criteria to sit for the exam. First, the period from Nov. 1st - Nov. 15 will be open just for JDs. Although speculative yet, there is a high chance that the NY bar will exclude us, LLMs, repeaters, as they did in the October exam. I had personally taken the exam just once a year ago. I was planning to take the exam in July this year, and then they excluded us. Only a limited number of LLMs were allowed to sit this past exam. The initial reason for exclusion was that they planned to hold an in-person exam and promote social distancing; the seats were scarce. Then, they changed the modality to be remote, so the initial reason didn't exist anymore. If this is not enough, the NY BOLE previously said that those JDs who failed the October exam would be able to re-take it. I don't know you, but I feel pretty discriminated against. I'm a foreign attorney that lives in the US and is trying to rebuild her career. These types of exclusions are simply not fair. I plan to do something, not sure what yet, but I will. If you want to join me to see what we can do, reply to this message; depending on how many are interested, I will follow up with more information. [/quote]<br><br>Hello<br><br><br>Can you please send me the link where you find all this information?<br><br>thank you
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