Kingston University (upon Thames) ?


Floris

Anybody heard something about the LL.M. programs at Kingston University, (Kingston upon Thames).

Especially about the quality of the courses - and the other students ? How is the mixture of students (africa, asia, continental europe ?).

Anybody heard something about the LL.M. programs at Kingston University, (Kingston upon Thames).

Especially about the quality of the courses - and the other students ? How is the mixture of students (africa, asia, continental europe ?).
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Good Gosh

kingston is certainly not highly regarded in the UK, but i've not heard much about it in particular (good or bad)

kingston is certainly not highly regarded in the UK, but i've not heard much about it in particular (good or bad)
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Kerfuffle

Generally regarded as a poor university with lots of internal problems.

Generally regarded as a poor university with lots of internal problems.
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Floris

i have the choice between aberdeen (scotland), kingston and ucl london.

- Which one would you choose ?
- From which countries do the students come from mainly at these universities ?

i have the choice between aberdeen (scotland), kingston and ucl london.

- Which one would you choose ?
- From which countries do the students come from mainly at these universities ?
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Good Gosh

EASILY UCL! there's absolutely NO contest. UCL is one of the best & most prestigious law faculties in the UK and the world. there is no room for comparison!

EASILY UCL! there's absolutely NO contest. UCL is one of the best & most prestigious law faculties in the UK and the world. there is no room for comparison!
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Good Gosh

oh and students at UCL will be from ALL around the world. and its campus is beautiful...

oh and students at UCL will be from ALL around the world. and its campus is beautiful...
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Floris

excuse me for the misspelling,
i did not mean ucl - but uel (university of east london).
So the decission is not so easy.

- Aberdeen, Scotland
- Kinston university, London
- University of East London

which program is better ?

excuse me for the misspelling,
i did not mean ucl - but uel (university of east london).
So the decission is not so easy.

- Aberdeen, Scotland
- Kinston university, London
- University of East London

which program is better ?
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Good Gosh

what area of law are you interested in?

what area of law are you interested in?
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Floris

business law, european law, international law, only a little human rights - no criminal law.

business law, european law, international law, only a little human rights - no criminal law.
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beicon

The only one Id consider going to is Aberdeen I think you can toss the others. Both Kingston and UEL arent universities Id even advise you to apply to. I reckon theres a good chance youll say that you wouldnt want to go to Aberdeen cause its in Scotland and, to make matters worse, its not in London!!!! But what good does it make to have a degree (a very expensive one if I may add), if its not a reputable university? Aberdeen may be in Scotland, but as far as I know it is highly regarded in the UK especially for its undergraduate programme, thats true but its is considered a good law school overall. And they've got one professor over there (whose name unfortunately I can't remember right know) who's known for his expertise in international law... private international law, to be more precise.

The only one I’d consider going to is Aberdeen… I think you can toss the others. Both Kingston and UEL aren’t universities I’d even advise you to apply to. I reckon there’s a good chance you’ll say that you wouldn’t want to go to Aberdeen ‘cause it’s in Scotland and, to make matters worse, it’s not in London!!!! But what good does it make to have a degree (a very expensive one if I may add), if it’s not a reputable university? Aberdeen may be in Scotland, but as far as I know it is highly regarded in the UK… especially for it’s undergraduate programme, that’s true… but it’s is considered a good law school overall. And they've got one professor over there (whose name unfortunately I can't remember right know) who's known for his expertise in international law... private international law, to be more precise.
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beicon

excuse me for the misspelling,
i did not mean ucl - but uel (university of east london).
So the decission is not so easy.

- Aberdeen, Scotland
- Kinston university, London
- University of East London

which program is better ?


I know it happens, but this misspelling of yours did cause great confusion : )

<blockquote>excuse me for the misspelling,
i did not mean ucl - but uel (university of east london).
So the decission is not so easy.

- Aberdeen, Scotland
- Kinston university, London
- University of East London

which program is better ? </blockquote>

I know it happens, but this misspelling of yours did cause great confusion… : )
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Craig

Kingston University has one of the worst reputations in the UK. LLM at this University may be a total waste of both time and money. If I were you, I would not touch this University even with a barge pole.

Wikipedia talking of Kingston University, among other things, states "In 2008, an audio recording obtained by student media included two psychology lecturers asking students to inflate their graded opinions given as part of the National Student Survey. One member of staff was recorded as encouraging students to boost specific satisfaction scores, because "if Kingston comes down the bottom [of the league tables], then the bottom line is that nobody is going to want to employ you because they are going to think your degree is shit".

Kingston University has one of the worst reputations in the UK. LLM at this University may be a total waste of both time and money. If I were you, I would not touch this University even with a barge pole.

Wikipedia talking of Kingston University, among other things, states "In 2008, an audio recording obtained by student media included two psychology lecturers asking students to inflate their graded opinions given as part of the National Student Survey. One member of staff was recorded as encouraging students to boost specific satisfaction scores, because "if Kingston comes down the bottom [of the league tables], then the bottom line is that nobody is going to want to employ you because they are going to think your degree is shit".

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Reeta

Take it for what it is worth but this is a general feedback from some of my international student friends who had the misfortune of landing up at Kingston University for their LLM.

Kingston University LLM is an extreme no, no for international students especially intelligent international students.

There is so much latent racism, hostility as well as patronising attitude displayed both inside classroom ( by teaching staff) as well as outside the classrooms by admin. staff directed towards the international students that it is simply unbelievable. And this is also a shame as major source of funding for programmes like LLM in all these extremely low ranked Universities comes mainly from international students (who are charged nearly double fees of what is paid by the UK home students).

And intelligent international students are especially targeted by teaching staff (some of the reasons explained in the above paragraph) which also, perhaps, gives reflected in the marks given to the (intelligent) international students in the LLM exams etc. Of course all this is done so subtly that it may be v.v. difficult to prove it.... but there is a lot of resentment amongst many international students as to the way they were treated during their stay at Kingston University.

This combined with a very poor image of the University in the UK. One of the many reasons why Kingston University Law School is languishing nearly at the extreme bottom half of any ranking tables....

LLM in any other University in the UK would be better than an LLM at Kingston University.

Take it for what it is worth but this is a general feedback from some of my international student friends who had the misfortune of landing up at Kingston University for their LLM.

Kingston University LLM is an extreme ‘no’, ‘no’ for international students especially intelligent international students.

There is so much latent racism, hostility as well as patronising attitude displayed both inside classroom ( by teaching staff) as well as outside the classrooms by admin. staff directed towards the international students that it is simply unbelievable. And this is also a shame as major source of funding for programmes like LLM in all these extremely low ranked Universities comes mainly from international students (who are charged nearly double fees of what is paid by the UK home students).

And intelligent international students are especially targeted by teaching staff (some of the reasons explained in the above paragraph) which also, perhaps, gives reflected in the marks given to the (intelligent) international students in the LLM exams etc. Of course all this is done so subtly that it may be v.v. difficult to prove it.... but there is a lot of resentment amongst many international students as to the way they were treated during their stay at Kingston University.

This combined with a very poor image of the University in the UK. One of the many reasons why Kingston University Law School is languishing nearly at the extreme bottom half of any ranking tables....

LLM in any other University in the UK would be better than an LLM at Kingston University.
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