USC 2017-2018


Anyone else accepted and thinking of going?

[Edited by OldmanLLMstudent on Mar 08, 2017]

Anyone else accepted and thinking of going?
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othello
Hey, I'm in too. I am waiting for the reste and will do the math. The Trojan network and kindness are attractive... so I could consider it (+ it's Cali :D)
Hey, I'm in too. I am waiting for the reste and will do the math. The Trojan network and kindness are attractive... so I could consider it (+ it's Cali :D)
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The Trojan Family is hardcore, especially in Southern California. You'd be hard pressed to find a more loyal bunch. I have also been extremely impressed with the admissions office. Very professional, friendly and responsive. The school features a solid curriculum and diverse faculty (scholar types as well as successful practitioners). I'm strongly leaning towards going.
The Trojan Family is hardcore, especially in Southern California. You'd be hard pressed to find a more loyal bunch. I have also been extremely impressed with the admissions office. Very professional, friendly and responsive. The school features a solid curriculum and diverse faculty (scholar types as well as successful practitioners). I'm strongly leaning towards going.
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I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away!

[Edited by OldmanLLMstudent on Mar 08, 2017]

I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away!
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Arthur D.
I passed in the USC, but I am think if I should go

[Edited by Arthur D. on Mar 08, 2017]

I passed in the USC, but I am think if I should go
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I got an offer from USC right now but no scholarship.
Anyone got scholarship email?
I got an offer from USC right now but no scholarship.
Anyone got scholarship email?
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grumpyJD
I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away!


The ADR program at USC is rising in the rankings: https://llm-guide.com/lists/speciality/top-llm-programs-for-alternative-dispute-resolution
[quote]I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away![/quote]

The ADR program at USC is rising in the rankings: https://llm-guide.com/lists/speciality/top-llm-programs-for-alternative-dispute-resolution
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grumpyJD
Apologies for the duplicate post but I'm better at law than computers :-) As mentioned earlier, the Trojan network and a very supportive administration add to USC's appeal. I know several LLM students who were able to transfer into the JD program based on the strength of their academic performance. If you are hoping for a legal career in California, a JD from a school like USC is worth more than any LLM.

[Edited by grumpyJD on Mar 08, 2017]

Apologies for the duplicate post but I'm better at law than computers :-) As mentioned earlier, the Trojan network and a very supportive administration add to USC's appeal. I know several LLM students who were able to transfer into the JD program based on the strength of their academic performance. If you are hoping for a legal career in California, a JD from a school like USC is worth more than any LLM.
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I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away!


The deadline is Apr 1 to put down the deposit. Yay most likely
[quote]I put my commitment deposit down. I'm gonna specialize in ADR. Who else will be joining me? I am a Southern California native and know all about USC, what it's like to live around here and the legal market so if anyone has any questions about the program, ask away![/quote]

The deadline is Apr 1 to put down the deposit. Yay most likely
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nm395
I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics.
I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics.
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I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics.


Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?
[quote]I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics. [/quote]

Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?
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MaxS
I am from Germany and was accepted at USC. I also put my commitment deposit down and will join USC's General LL.M. program. Looking forward to see you guys :)

Where are you from?
I am from Germany and was accepted at USC. I also put my commitment deposit down and will join USC's General LL.M. program. Looking forward to see you guys :)

Where are you from?


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nm395
I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics.


Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?


You're right - it is ok for JDs - but the LLM program is different. And yes - the CA bar passage rate is great - but USC's 88% pass rate does not include foreign attorneys (ie: LLMs). The 88% pass rate refers to first time bar takers from ABA approved programs - JDs (ie: NOT LLMs). Most LLMs at USC take NY or DC bar exams - and I have asked a few different people in the International Office about LLM bar pass rates and never received any answers. For employers, I mean big law firms in the US (NYC and CA).

[Edited by nm395 on Mar 08, 2017]

[quote][quote]I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics. [/quote]

Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?[/quote]

You're right - it is ok for JDs - but the LLM program is different. And yes - the CA bar passage rate is great - but USC's 88% pass rate does not include foreign attorneys (ie: LLMs). The 88% pass rate refers to first time bar takers from ABA approved programs - JDs (ie: NOT LLMs). Most LLMs at USC take NY or DC bar exams - and I have asked a few different people in the International Office about LLM bar pass rates and never received any answers. For employers, I mean big law firms in the US (NYC and CA).
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Good points there. I have passed both NY and CA and let me tell you, those are hard enough exams for someone who grew up here! I guess everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt, as I am a domestic lawyer going back to school (part time, I already am working in LA) for reasons not common to the typical LLM.
Good points there. I have passed both NY and CA and let me tell you, those are hard enough exams for someone who grew up here! I guess everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt, as I am a domestic lawyer going back to school (part time, I already am working in LA) for reasons not common to the typical LLM.
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nm395
If you go to USC - they will be lucky to have someone like you.
If you go to USC - they will be lucky to have someone like you.
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Hello,
I am Caroline, I am from Brazil, and I got accepted at USC with a good scholarship. I also got accepted at Loyola and I am not sure which school I should choose. I live in LA and my goal is to work as lawyer here so I will be taking the California Bar. I know it will not be easy. Which school would you choose ? I went at USC and the school is great. I am going to attend the event on USC on March 31, anyone going ?

[Edited by carolinefledstein on Mar 11, 2017]

Hello,
I am Caroline, I am from Brazil, and I got accepted at USC with a good scholarship. I also got accepted at Loyola and I am not sure which school I should choose. I live in LA and my goal is to work as lawyer here so I will be taking the California Bar. I know it will not be easy. Which school would you choose ? I went at USC and the school is great. I am going to attend the event on USC on March 31, anyone going ?
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Hello,
I am Caroline, I am from Brazil, and I got accepted at USC with a good scholarship. I also got accepted at Loyola and I am not sure which school I should choose. I live in LA my goal is to work as lawyer here so I will be taking the California Bar. I know it will not be easy. Which school would you choose ? I went at USC is the school is great. I going to attend the event on USC on March 31, anyone going ?


If you got a good scholarship at USC and want to stay and work in LA, and pass the California bar, it's not even close. USC all the way. As discussed above, USC has an outstanding bar passage rate with JDs. Loyola is closer to average. Also, USC is ranked much, much higher and has one of the best alumni networks around. I'm originally from LA, it's just not even close. The only ways I'd say it could be a tough decision is if Loyola offered a good scholarship and USC did not, or if Loyola has a specialization that you want and USC does not have it. But in LA, this is almost like saying should I go to Harvard or Northeastern if I wanted to go to school near Boston. The top schools in LA are UCLA and USC by far.

Hope that helps.
[quote]Hello,
I am Caroline, I am from Brazil, and I got accepted at USC with a good scholarship. I also got accepted at Loyola and I am not sure which school I should choose. I live in LA my goal is to work as lawyer here so I will be taking the California Bar. I know it will not be easy. Which school would you choose ? I went at USC is the school is great. I going to attend the event on USC on March 31, anyone going ? [/quote]

If you got a good scholarship at USC and want to stay and work in LA, and pass the California bar, it's not even close. USC all the way. As discussed above, USC has an outstanding bar passage rate with JDs. Loyola is closer to average. Also, USC is ranked much, much higher and has one of the best alumni networks around. I'm originally from LA, it's just not even close. The only ways I'd say it could be a tough decision is if Loyola offered a good scholarship and USC did not, or if Loyola has a specialization that you want and USC does not have it. But in LA, this is almost like saying should I go to Harvard or Northeastern if I wanted to go to school near Boston. The top schools in LA are UCLA and USC by far.

Hope that helps.
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Yes, this is not totally pertinent because it applies to first time takers in JD program, but it is decently indicative of strength of the schools in California. By strength I mean the GPA and LSAT of the incoming students.

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/12/california-bar-exam-results-by-law-school-2016/
Yes, this is not totally pertinent because it applies to first time takers in JD program, but it is decently indicative of strength of the schools in California. By strength I mean the GPA and LSAT of the incoming students.

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/12/california-bar-exam-results-by-law-school-2016/
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This is such a hard decision. I have been leaving in LA for a short period but I made good connects and everyone that I talked do not see that difference between the two schools. Even though the ranks show a large difference. I looked at all of them. It would be cheaper for me to go to Loyola. But I really don't know! It would be amazing to go to USC. I have a green card so the process is different for me. it will be easier to find a job. Which school are you going to ?
This is such a hard decision. I have been leaving in LA for a short period but I made good connects and everyone that I talked do not see that difference between the two schools. Even though the ranks show a large difference. I looked at all of them. It would be cheaper for me to go to Loyola. But I really don't know! It would be amazing to go to USC. I have a green card so the process is different for me. it will be easier to find a job. Which school are you going to ?
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Lawgirl1
I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics.


Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?


You're right - it is ok for JDs - but the LLM program is different. And yes - the CA bar passage rate is great - but USC's 88% pass rate does not include foreign attorneys (ie: LLMs). The 88% pass rate refers to first time bar takers from ABA approved programs - JDs (ie: NOT LLMs). Most LLMs at USC take NY or DC bar exams - and I have asked a few different people in the International Office about LLM bar pass rates and never received any answers. For employers, I mean big law firms in the US (NYC and CA).


May I ask which country you come from in Europe? Did you end up taking a bar exam?
[quote][quote][quote]I'm a current LLM from Europe and I regret coming here. While I did get some scholarship money, I don't think it was worth it for me. The main problem is that most of the other students don't speak English very well and so the LLM classes are very slow and not challenging. Since the bulk of the LLM class consists of students whose English isn't proficient, most of the courses cater to them. Also - I have found that the USC LLM doesn't hold much weight for employers since most know that the USC LLM doesn't have really strong academics. [/quote]

Well, the school is in the top 20 for the JD and is the best or a close second for law schools in Southern California. It had the second highest bar passage rate last July, beating ucla and Berkeley. When you say employers, do you mean in Europe or also in the US?[/quote]

You're right - it is ok for JDs - but the LLM program is different. And yes - the CA bar passage rate is great - but USC's 88% pass rate does not include foreign attorneys (ie: LLMs). The 88% pass rate refers to first time bar takers from ABA approved programs - JDs (ie: NOT LLMs). Most LLMs at USC take NY or DC bar exams - and I have asked a few different people in the International Office about LLM bar pass rates and never received any answers. For employers, I mean big law firms in the US (NYC and CA).
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May I ask which country you come from in Europe? Did you end up taking a bar exam?
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