LLM in Transnational Arbitration & Dispute Settlement (the TADS), Sciences Po, Paris


akhilunnam

Hello Everyone!

I want to start this post so that all the applicants to Sciences Po's LLM in Transnational Arbitration & Dispute Settlement for the year 2017-18 can come together and discuss.

Since this is the very first year that this program has been introduced, I think it would help us all if discuss any issue pertaining to the LLM program.

Edit: here is the link for the facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sciencespotadsllm/

[Edited by akhilunnam on Apr 04, 2018]

Hello Everyone!

I want to start this post so that all the applicants to Sciences Po's LLM in Transnational Arbitration & Dispute Settlement for the year 2017-18 can come together and discuss.

Since this is the very first year that this program has been introduced, I think it would help us all if discuss any issue pertaining to the LLM program.

Edit: here is the link for the facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/groups/sciencespotadsllm/
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Thanks for starting the thread. I'll be putting in an application in the next week. It will be interesting to see if other on this board are doing so.

Thanks for starting the thread. I'll be putting in an application in the next week. It will be interesting to see if other on this board are doing so.
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akhilunnam

Yes. I'm waiting too. It would be interesting to see and connect with those who are applying to this program

Yes. I'm waiting too. It would be interesting to see and connect with those who are applying to this program
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I got my application in the day before they closed.

Is there anyone else now waiting on Sciences Po?

I got my application in the day before they closed.

Is there anyone else now waiting on Sciences Po?
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I completed my application on March 14.

My status changed to "Your application is currently under review" and it remains like that to date. I e-mailed Admissions on April 11 to ask them for an estimated date for results and got a reply on April 20, stating that, as my application was considered complete on April 12 (?), I would receive my admission results by the end of May.

I'm not waiting on SciencesPo, though, as I enrolled in another program, but I guess the info might still be useful.

Good luck!

I completed my application on March 14.

My status changed to "Your application is currently under review" and it remains like that to date. I e-mailed Admissions on April 11 to ask them for an estimated date for results and got a reply on April 20, stating that, as my application was considered complete on April 12 (?), I would receive my admission results by the end of May.

I'm not waiting on SciencesPo, though, as I enrolled in another program, but I guess the info might still be useful.

Good luck!
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akhilunnam

Yes. The status of my application is the same.

I have some concerns though. I wonder how many students have applied to the course though. I don't wanna end up studying with very few students and most of the modules cancelled.

Yes. The status of my application is the same.

I have some concerns though. I wonder how many students have applied to the course though. I don't wanna end up studying with very few students and most of the modules cancelled.
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MX24

Hey guys, I have submitted my application last month for this LLM and I currently have the same status.

I received an email last month explaining that those who completed their app before April 14th would be informed on the admission decision by the end of May whereas the rest would only know by the end of June. So I thought they must have expected to get a lot of applicants.

But here's my take on the number of applicants: Sciences Po students can't apply to this LLM - they can only apply to their Economic Law Masters; there won't be many French law students as applicants in general since 1) tuition fees are too high for the French system, 2) an experience in arbitration is required and the competition is so fierce in Paris that it's uncommon for a French student to have had one; now considering int'nl applicants the main drawback of this LLM is its late date of creation - I think most brilliant students have already settled for another quality LLM in Europe or US and won't wait until late May/June.

There will probably be more of young professionals and mature applicants. I myself am a French law student with an international academic background but I have accepted another LLM in arbitration in case I don't get in this one.

[Edited by MX24 on May 21, 2017]

Hey guys, I have submitted my application last month for this LLM and I currently have the same status.

I received an email last month explaining that those who completed their app before April 14th would be informed on the admission decision by the end of May whereas the rest would only know by the end of June. So I thought they must have expected to get a lot of applicants.

But here's my take on the number of applicants: Sciences Po students can't apply to this LLM - they can only apply to their Economic Law Masters; there won't be many French law students as applicants in general since 1) tuition fees are too high for the French system, 2) an experience in arbitration is required and the competition is so fierce in Paris that it's uncommon for a French student to have had one; now considering int'nl applicants the main drawback of this LLM is its late date of creation - I think most brilliant students have already settled for another quality LLM in Europe or US and won't wait until late May/June.

There will probably be more of young professionals and mature applicants. I myself am a French law student with an international academic background but I have accepted another LLM in arbitration in case I don't get in this one.
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akhilunnam

Hi MX24. Yes I'll know my results by the end of this week. I have been offered a place in Queens London LLM in Arbitration and I wish to keep it as a backup. In which college are you offered an admission?

Hi MX24. Yes I'll know my results by the end of this week. I have been offered a place in Queens London LLM in Arbitration and I wish to keep it as a backup. In which college are you offered an admission?
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akhilunnam

Admitted! Guys I got the email from Sciences Po and the status in application page also changed. I am admitted ! Yay! Anyone else got similar emails?

Admitted! Guys I got the email from Sciences Po and the status in application page also changed. I am admitted ! Yay! Anyone else got similar emails?
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izimrit

I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location.

I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location.
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MX24

Congrats isbjorn2101, that's fantastic! I submitted my app on April 22nd so it looks like I won't get a reply before late June. I have Humboldt as a backup; didn't apply to the UK since I previously studied there and wanted a change (the US not being an option financially-wise). Fingers crossed for ScPo tho!
Makes me wonder how many people got already admitted and accepted the offer / or were rejected.

Congrats isbjorn2101, that's fantastic! I submitted my app on April 22nd so it looks like I won't get a reply before late June. I have Humboldt as a backup; didn't apply to the UK since I previously studied there and wanted a change (the US not being an option financially-wise). Fingers crossed for ScPo tho!
Makes me wonder how many people got already admitted and accepted the offer / or were rejected.
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akhilunnam

Thank you. Yes we need to find out on that aspect. I don't wanna end up studying with just 4 or 5 students
And all the best for your results. I hope you get it

Thank you. Yes we need to find out on that aspect. I don't wanna end up studying with just 4 or 5 students
And all the best for your results. I hope you get it
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... an experience in arbitration is required ...


That's news to me. I can't see that anywhere on their website.

Before submitting an application, I floated my background (including 'mature age') past them to see if there were any aspects that would disqualify me from selection. And of course stating that I understood that selection was on the merits of an application, and their reply would have no bearing. There is no arbitration experience in my background. The reply said that there was nothing that should prevent me from applying. So I did.

[quote]... an experience in arbitration is required ...[/quote]

That's news to me. I can't see that anywhere on their website.

Before submitting an application, I floated my background (including 'mature age') past them to see if there were any aspects that would [b]disqualify[/b] me from selection. And of course stating that I understood that selection was on the merits of an application, and their reply would have no bearing. There is no arbitration experience in my background. The reply said that there was nothing that should prevent me from applying. So I did.

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akhilunnam

... an experience in arbitration is required ...


That's news to me. I can't see that anywhere on their website.

Before submitting an application, I floated my background (including 'mature age') past them to see if there were any aspects that would disqualify me from selection. And of course stating that I understood that selection was on the merits of an application, and their reply would have no bearing. There is no arbitration experience in my background. The reply said that there was nothing that should prevent me from applying. So I did.



Yes. They don't ask for experience in arbitration as such. But, they do require previous work experience in law. That's a prerequisite

[quote][quote]... an experience in arbitration is required ...[/quote]

That's news to me. I can't see that anywhere on their website.

Before submitting an application, I floated my background (including 'mature age') past them to see if there were any aspects that would [b]disqualify[/b] me from selection. And of course stating that I understood that selection was on the merits of an application, and their reply would have no bearing. There is no arbitration experience in my background. The reply said that there was nothing that should prevent me from applying. So I did.

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Yes. They don't ask for experience in arbitration as such. But, they do require previous work experience in law. That's a prerequisite
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I don't agree. From their reply to my pre-application enquiry:

"Regarding the required qualification and professional experience, applicants to the LLM programme have to hold a law degree (Master 2, JD, LL.B., or the equivalent) and a professional experience, not necessarily as a lawyer".

I meet those requirements (I have an LLM) but I'm not a lawyer. Their answer went on to say that on the face of it I qualified. (As I mentioned earlier, that was not any kind of promise for the assessment. I was looking for any negatives that would suggest I not apply).

I don't agree. From their reply to my pre-application enquiry:

"[i]Regarding the required qualification and professional experience, applicants to the LLM programme have to hold a law degree (Master 2, JD, LL.B., or the equivalent) and a professional experience, not necessarily as a lawyer[/i]".

I meet those requirements (I have an LLM) but I'm not a lawyer. Their answer went on to say that on the face of it I qualified. (As I mentioned earlier, that was not any kind of promise for the assessment. I was looking for any negatives that would suggest I not apply).
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akhilunnam

I don't agree. From their reply to my pre-application enquiry:

"Regarding the required qualification and professional experience, applicants to the LLM programme have to hold a law degree (Master 2, JD, LL.B., or the equivalent) and a professional experience, not necessarily as a lawyer".

I meet those requirements (I have an LLM) but I'm not a lawyer. Their answer went on to say that on the face of it I qualified. (As I mentioned earlier, that was not any kind of promise for the assessment. I was looking for any negatives that would suggest I not apply).


That's right. I stand corrected. They mentioned only "Professional Experience" not as a lawyer.

[quote]I don't agree. From their reply to my pre-application enquiry:

"[i]Regarding the required qualification and professional experience, applicants to the LLM programme have to hold a law degree (Master 2, JD, LL.B., or the equivalent) and a professional experience, not necessarily as a lawyer[/i]".

I meet those requirements (I have an LLM) but I'm not a lawyer. Their answer went on to say that on the face of it I qualified. (As I mentioned earlier, that was not any kind of promise for the assessment. I was looking for any negatives that would suggest I not apply).[/quote]

That's right. I stand corrected. They mentioned only "Professional Experience" not as a lawyer.
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akhilunnam

I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location.


Ohh congrats. Why did you defer the offer ?

[quote]I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location. [/quote]

Ohh congrats. Why did you defer the offer ?
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izimrit

I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location.


Ohh congrats. Why did you defer the offer ?



Well primarily for the reason that there might be very few people in the inaugural class. I think as for any new program, there could be teething problems in the first year. All in all my assumption is (could be completely wrong) that the program will pick up in the second year and accordingly there will be more students to interact with and any issues faced during the first year of the program (as it is brand new) will be sorted by the second year. Anyways just my opinion. As Iv said could be totally misplaced.

[quote][quote]I submitted my application in Feb and was accepted to the Program by early April. I ended up deferring my offer for a year (till 2018). Although there could be advantages of being part of the inaugural class, it looks like there will be a low turn out for many of the reasons stated by MX24. That being said, I believe its a top notch program from the course content, faculty and of course because of its location. [/quote]

Ohh congrats. Why did you defer the offer ?[/quote]


Well primarily for the reason that there might be very few people in the inaugural class. I think as for any new program, there could be teething problems in the first year. All in all my assumption is (could be completely wrong) that the program will pick up in the second year and accordingly there will be more students to interact with and any issues faced during the first year of the program (as it is brand new) will be sorted by the second year. Anyways just my opinion. As Iv said could be totally misplaced.
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akhilunnam

Yeah that's true actually, even I think all those problems will be there . But on a positive note, in my opinion, since a lot would bank on the success of the inaugural batch, I think it will be advantageous to study in this batch. I think we'll get more exposure to practical aspects and more chances of employment considering the size of the class.

Although, i agree that this is looking at the coin from one side.

[Edited by akhilunnam on May 23, 2017]


Yeah that's true actually, even I think all those problems will be there . But on a positive note, in my opinion, since a lot would bank on the success of the inaugural batch, I think it will be advantageous to study in this batch. I think we'll get more exposure to practical aspects and more chances of employment considering the size of the class.

Although, i agree that this is looking at the coin from one side.
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izimrit


Yeah that's true actually, even I think all those problems will be there . But on a positive note, in my opinion, since a lot would bank on the success of the inaugural batch, I think it will be advantageous to study in this batch. I think we'll get more exposure to practical aspects and more chances of employment considering the size of the class.

Although, i agree that this is looking at the coin from one side.


No I think you're right. Forgive me for being a pessimist. I think i am just trying to make myself feel better for not coming this year..:)

[quote]
Yeah that's true actually, even I think all those problems will be there . But on a positive note, in my opinion, since a lot would bank on the success of the inaugural batch, I think it will be advantageous to study in this batch. I think we'll get more exposure to practical aspects and more chances of employment considering the size of the class.

Although, i agree that this is looking at the coin from one side. [/quote]

No I think you're right. Forgive me for being a pessimist. I think i am just trying to make myself feel better for not coming this year..:)
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