Hello all,

I am thinking of getting a second LLM before doing a PhD. Until a month ago, I had been thinking to apply Tilburg University's Law and Technology LLM programme so I could move to a PhD about Bioethics and shift my career to a combination of Law and Philosophy. However, due to its structure and potential opportunities in Aerospace sector, Leiden's Air and Space Law programme also got my attention since it offers internships in law firms and European Space Agency.

Apart from my struggle and inconstancy between these two great options, I am told that it is almost impossible to enroll these two universities with 2.23 GPA and get a scholarship either from the universities or third parties. On the other hand, I already have a LLM diploma from Cardiff University, International Commercial Law programme with Merit degree. Back then, my GPA was still a problem and even my education agent told me that she did not understand how Cardiff accepted me but I managed to enroll and succesfully complete the programme. Since then, I have also improved my CV since I have been working in a reputable law firm's Arbitration and Dispute Resolution department.

My question is that whether it is possible to enroll these Dutch universities and even get a scholarship (preferably full) either from the universities or third parties even though I have a low GPA. Also, I would like to know if my first LLM degree would have any positive or negative effect on my application and scholarship opportunities.

Hello all,

I am thinking of getting a second LLM before doing a PhD. Until a month ago, I had been thinking to apply Tilburg University's Law and Technology LLM programme so I could move to a PhD about Bioethics and shift my career to a combination of Law and Philosophy. However, due to its structure and potential opportunities in Aerospace sector, Leiden's Air and Space Law programme also got my attention since it offers internships in law firms and European Space Agency.

Apart from my struggle and inconstancy between these two great options, I am told that it is almost impossible to enroll these two universities with 2.23 GPA and get a scholarship either from the universities or third parties. On the other hand, I already have a LLM diploma from Cardiff University, International Commercial Law programme with Merit degree. Back then, my GPA was still a problem and even my education agent told me that she did not understand how Cardiff accepted me but I managed to enroll and succesfully complete the programme. Since then, I have also improved my CV since I have been working in a reputable law firm's Arbitration and Dispute Resolution department.

My question is that whether it is possible to enroll these Dutch universities and even get a scholarship (preferably full) either from the universities or third parties even though I have a low GPA. Also, I would like to know if my first LLM degree would have any positive or negative effect on my application and scholarship opportunities.

[Edited by Nuna on Mar 08, 2020]

Hi @skywolka ,
I also have a gpa of 2.34 and applied for leiden llm public international law and got rejected unfortunately . However they said that there is no announced gpa for the program i believe they expect a minimum of 3 as many other 100 top universities do . On the other hand , we should never lose hope and try to apply as for many universities as possible i have been getting conditional offers from many universities such as success , leeds , birmingham ... but they all require a minimum of 3 . However , after i contacted some of them i was told to accept the offer and they sometimes accept offers that dont meet the conditions its a very risky road but we should always try our best to get the best results . I deffinetly know what you are passing through and we are at the same ship ,I highly recommend you to do apply to tilburg and many other desired universities .
Wish you the best and hope this message finds you well .

Hi @skywolka ,
I also have a gpa of 2.34 and applied for leiden llm public international law and got rejected unfortunately . However they said that there is no announced gpa for the program i believe they expect a minimum of 3 as many other 100 top universities do . On the other hand , we should never lose hope and try to apply as for many universities as possible i have been getting conditional offers from many universities such as success , leeds , birmingham ... but they all require a minimum of 3 . However , after i contacted some of them i was told to accept the offer and they sometimes accept offers that dont meet the conditions its a very risky road but we should always try our best to get the best results . I deffinetly know what you are passing through and we are at the same ship ,I highly recommend you to do apply to tilburg and many other desired universities .
Wish you the best and hope this message finds you well .

Thank you for your comment Nuna, I'm still in the conundrum but as you said, it's worth to try and apply to them

Wish you the best as well :)