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Wheretogo_   Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 79 |
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www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/single.htm?ip…Mon May 04, 2009 06:19 AM Great to see UCL up there and Durham hanging in there!!! ;) [Edited by Wheretogo_ on 04 May 2009] |
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| banker3 Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 70 |
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UCL before Oxbridge and LSE?Mon May 04, 2009 07:35 AM and Glasgow, Nottingham, Durham before KCL??? [Edited by banker3 on 04 May 2009] |
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| QSWE Joined: 23 Nov 2008 Posts: 674 |
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I guess the changings have been more to break monotony than any thing else. It would have been a diiferent thing if the changes were in consonance with the Research Exercise Ratings. But that movements represent no pattern at all shows that the changes are more for the sake of it.
Mon May 04, 2009 10:09 AM |
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| Jeremy Bentham
Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 47 |
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UCL does have a fantastic law school, whether it is the very best is open to debate. Surprised to see Kings so far down the list. Can anyone explain in simple terms how they assess these things? Are they really reliable/relevant?
Mon May 04, 2009 11:03 AM |
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| banker3 Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 70 |
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I prefer the Times and Guardian rankings...they are more consistent and KCL should be in the top 4.
Mon May 04, 2009 11:09 AM |
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| Interalia Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 130 |
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The problem with these sorts of rankings - especially for prospective LLMs - is that they include all sorts of irrelevant data like "entry prospects" and "student satisfaction".Mon May 04, 2009 11:19 AM I personally think its more helpful just to zero in on the category which is most important to oneself. For me personally, I just choose universities based on two criteria, namely (i) the quality of publications by the faculty in my area of interest and (ii) do the faculty members in question actually teach the LLM class. [Edited by Interalia on 04 May 2009] |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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I think that the most important is the area U wanna specialize in and this statement is true for all the universities all over the world.Mon May 04, 2009 12:10 PM Each uni has got its own area of excellence. So, the question is rather about the LLM focus than the uni itself. |
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| Kerfuffle Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 122 |
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Specialisation is definitely the key for anyone planning to practice law after their LLM - otherwise any LLM offers little benefit (just ask the recruiters). Tue May 05, 2009 04:54 AM The rankings are crap, and are really only helpful for students obsessed with status, and UG's choosing their first university. The rankings for the LLM are simple: go to Oxbridge or the top four UoL law schools. |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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Tue May 05, 2009 08:08 AM Specialisation is definitely the key for anyone planning to practice law after their LLM - otherwise any LLM offers little benefit (just ask the recruiters). totally agree with U. It U are looking for reputation go to oxbridge. If U wanna specialise try to have a look to other opportunities! |
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| Legal_India Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 172 |
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I think this new ranking makes more sense...!Tue May 05, 2009 07:08 PM Because....most universities were surviving on their old reputation and prestige. However, the Universities which have recently come up have actually made many neccessary changes for improving to that level. Just because a particular University is on the top for decades does not rule out the possibility that UCL cannot be graded above it. Probably Oxford and Cambridge are really good but probably UCL has had better things in the last 2-3 years. Similarly in the case of Glasgow. Glasgow has had loads of important in the last few years. And the quality of students that graduated from there has been really impressive. Likewise, Manchester has been dropped right down to 22....I had been arguing since the last one month that Manchester is over-ranked....it should be ranked much below...It has only been surviving on its old reputation. And finally i see that Guardian really considered the true value of Manchester. however, having said the above, I won't argue that these are appropriate for an LLM course. But that does not mean that these rankings are wrong. They are right for LLB students....and an good guide for LLM students. |
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| beicon Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 257 |
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I know most people don't like rankings and I'm also aware that they aren't to be taken as an irrefutable truth, but did you see the new Guardian ranking (for 2010)? Mon May 25, 2009 10:55 PM www.guardian.co.uk/education/table/2009/may/12/uni… |
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| nok
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Well the new ranking seem reasonable enoughTue May 26, 2009 07:39 AM but I would put KCL ahead of Edinburgh and on par with UCL. |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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Aberdeen 19th.......with Lancaster university before...let me laugh pleazzzzzzzzTue May 26, 2009 10:41 AM This ranking is bullshit! |
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| beicon Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 257 |
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I agree with jackoune on this one. Aberdeen deserves to be much higher up in the ranking. But rankings aside, it's obviou no one would turn down Oxbridge for UCL... or Aberdeen for Lancaster... at least not when entering the LLM...
Tue May 26, 2009 06:57 PM |
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| banker3 Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 70 |
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Edinburgh should be lower than KCL and LSE
Tue May 26, 2009 08:56 PM |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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Rankings can tell whatever they want, I agree with baicon, nobody agrees about the oxbridge and london supremacy.Tue May 26, 2009 09:03 PM Then, it really depends on the ranking. I mean for instance how is it possible to see Aberdeen ranked second in a 2008 ranking and then 19th...what happened in a year...isn't it ridiculous... I think that again, U should focus on Ur concentration. Each uni has got its strong argument, no matter what x or y can say about it! |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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sorry wanted to say that everybody agreed on the supremacy, sorry about that
Tue May 26, 2009 09:04 PM |
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| appu.apsi
Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 2 |
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hi all!!!Wed May 27, 2009 05:31 PM I got into Warwick for Int Corporate Governance and Financial Regulations. I intend to go on a loan. its a huge amount that i'll be borrowing. I want to know how good is the course, about the Univ, about the faculty and the job prospects? I am way too confused mainly cuz of the recession. I also want to know whether its feasible to work part time? kindly advice. Regards Aparna |
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| P_Martini Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 165 |
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Look, I think UCL is fantastic, and I don't know what the ".00" means under "Student Satisfaction" for UCL and Oxford, but unless it means it's a perfect score (Can someone answer this for me, please?), how can UCL be ranked first overall when it doesn't have the top score in any of the individual categories? I suppose, mathematically, the average of its scores still can be the highest, but when we're already engaged in such a subjective process as ranking law departments, shouldn't you at least be able to say that within your survey, UCL is the best in a given category?
Thu May 28, 2009 05:00 AM |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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Thu May 28, 2009 07:52 AM Look, I think UCL is fantastic, and I don't know what the ".00" means under "Student Satisfaction" for UCL and Oxford, but unless it means it's a perfect score (Can someone answer this for me, please?), how can UCL be ranked first overall when it doesn't have the top score in any of the individual categories? I suppose, mathematically, the average of its scores still can be the highest, but when we're already engaged in such a subjective process as ranking law departments, shouldn't you at least be able to say that within your survey, UCL is the best in a given category? I think that 0.0 means that they refused to answer the questions. |
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| jackoune Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 100 |
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By the way, I think that the most relevant category in this ranking is the one about job prospects. I think that the rankings would be quite different!
Thu May 28, 2009 08:14 AM |
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| banker3 Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 70 |
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for job propects I think it's mostly Oxbridge and LSE/KCL/UCL.
Thu May 28, 2009 10:43 AM |
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| gizzajob
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 9 |
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The results of the student survey are heavily weighted, particularly in the Times table, unless result not entered. Kings tends to do very well out of the SS, hence very high rankings in the table last year.
Thu May 28, 2009 11:41 AM [Edited by gizzajob on 28 May 2009] |
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| beicon Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 257 |
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Just to keep the never-ending (and some times really funny) rank discussion updated, the times released a new ranking for 2010...Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:43 PM extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_gug/gooduniversitygui… |
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| Legal_India Joined: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 172 |
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The is the most sensible ranking I have seen...!Fri Jun 05, 2009 06:48 AM Very very appropriate...! the Closest to the actual LLM rankings |
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