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yoyo181080

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 6
LL.M. IN UCLA
Mon Feb 02, 2009 03:43 PM
HI

IS UCLA CONSIDERED A GOOD LAW SCHOOL COMPARED TO NYU COLUMBIA GEORGTOWN BERKELEY ETC?

WHAT ARE MY CHANCES OF FINDING A JOB IN A LEADING LAW FIRM AFTER GRADUATION?

THANKS

YOYO
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Irishlad

Joined: 01 Feb 2009
Posts: 49
LL.M. IN UCLA
Mon Feb 02, 2009 04:30 PM
Hi

UCLA is a very good school but at current rankings is not in the top 15 and would not be on the same level as NYU Columbia etc.

As regards chances of employment do you mean in US if so which city.

New york is hard to get a job but not impossible if you work at it but it will depend on what school you go to (generally need a top 15 school) and then the grades you get.

What is your resume like what qulifications/expierience do you have i could possibly advise better if i knew this.

By the way where all have you applied to and have you recieved any admissions

Irishlad
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withprayers

Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Posts: 78
LL.M. IN UCLA
Mon Feb 02, 2009 07:02 PM
Hi Irishlad.... do you iknow anything about UIUC?... i just thought I ask
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Joined: 08 Jan 2009
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LL.M. IN UCLA
Mon Feb 02, 2009 07:14 PM
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triguyben8379

Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Posts: 25
LL.M. IN UCLA
Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:12 PM
I think Georgetown and UCLA are comparable, while NYU and Colombia are clearly the top 2. Berkeley is in the middle of those 5.

Having said that, there are a lot of things that the rankings or reputation don't take into account. Some schools can be more cutthroat and impersonal than others, but have been around longer. As a UCLA grad (JD 2007), I can't say enough about how much fun it was to go to school there. I still chat with my classmates, professors, and the staff. Everytime I go back, it feels like coming home again after being away for a long time.

I don't know that you can rely on past years' job placement statistics with any school. The job market is really bad whereever you go.

Also, depeding on what type of law you want to practice, some of these schools are better than others. I think UCLA has a better tax reputation than Berkeley and Columbia, for example.
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Addicted-to-Law

Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Posts: 16
LL.M. IN UCLA
Tue Feb 03, 2009 06:34 AM
Hi, triguyben8379!

thanks for the info! It is great to get an insight view!
I absolutely agree with you on the matter of personal approach. It is one of the most important things especially for foreign students.

could you please also comment on LLM business specialization at UCLA? How do you estimate it? I understand that it probably cannot match LLM in business law in Stanford, but nevertheless how can one compare it to other LLM programs?

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triguyben8379

Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Posts: 25
LL.M. IN UCLA
Tue Feb 03, 2009 08:02 PM
I did my JD at UCLA. The LLM program is not separate from the US JD students. You'd be taking the same classes that they do (or at least some of them). So that makes it hard to compare to other LLM programs. I don't know whether that is a positive or a negative.

The business law professors at UCLA are brilliant. Stephen Bainbridge is one of the most well known corporate governance scholars in the country. I believe his blog is one of the top 10 most popular legal blogs in the country. He has one the teaching award just about every other year since he has been at UCLA.

Ken Klee teaches bankruptcy and is one of the foremost authorities on bankruptcy. He helped write the code in 1981. Lynn Stout is a really well known securities law professor and seems to publish a scholarly article every other month. Iman Anabtawi teaches corporate finance and business associations. She was in practice for 10 years and clerked for Sandra Day OConnor and is probably the nicest, most unassuming professor I have ever had.

All of the people who teach business law classes are really smart, well published, and just genuinely nice people.

I really don't know how well respected an LLM in business specialization is, but having a law degree from UCLA opens up a lot of doors (albeit, not so much in this economy), especially in Southern California.

Having professors the caliber of those at UCLA is really helpful. I developped relationships with some of the professors I mentioned - 2 wrote letters of recommendation for me for my clerkship and tax LLM applications and one went through his rolodex to refer me to business contacts whom I could contact for job interviews.
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terrafreesky

Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Posts: 32
LL.M. IN UCLA
Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:44 PM
Hi, triguy~

I also applied for the LL.M program.
How about the international law in UCLA Law?

I plan to study at SJD program after graduating LL.M.
What is your idea that good ways to prepare SJD program for LLM students?

As you mentioned, you did the JD program but I believe that you have something ideas about LLM and SJD in the international law.

Thanks in advance! :)
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triguyben8379

Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Posts: 25
LL.M. IN UCLA
Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:48 PM
Sorry, I don't know anything about international law or SJD programs, whether at UCLA or in general. My knowledge is limited to business law, tax law, and general questions about UCLA.
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Addicted-to-Law

Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Posts: 16
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 09:52 AM
I did my JD at UCLA. The LLM program is not separate from the US JD students. You'd be taking the same classes that they do (or at least some of them). So that makes it hard to compare to other LLM programs. I don't know whether that is a positive or a negative.

The business law professors at UCLA are brilliant. Stephen Bainbridge is one of the most well known corporate governance scholars in the country. I believe his blog is one of the top 10 most popular legal blogs in the country. He has one the teaching award just about every other year since he has been at UCLA.

Ken Klee teaches bankruptcy and is one of the foremost authorities on bankruptcy. He helped write the code in 1981. Lynn Stout is a really well known securities law professor and seems to publish a scholarly article every other month. Iman Anabtawi teaches corporate finance and business associations. She was in practice for 10 years and clerked for Sandra Day OConnor and is probably the nicest, most unassuming professor I have ever had.

All of the people who teach business law classes are really smart, well published, and just genuinely nice people.

I really don't know how well respected an LLM in business specialization is, but having a law degree from UCLA opens up a lot of doors (albeit, not so much in this economy), especially in Southern California.

Having professors the caliber of those at UCLA is really helpful. I developped relationships with some of the professors I mentioned - 2 wrote letters of recommendation for me for my clerkship and tax LLM applications and one went through his rolodex to refer me to business contacts whom I could contact for job interviews.


Triguyben8379, hi and thanks again!

You know that you are simply great with all your tips and details, don't you? :) It's rare to get such a full answer to a question. I'm lucky!

I heard a lot about Stephen Bainbridge previousy and even read some of his posts on his web-page. But other professors are not so well-known in the internet.

mmm, and in my opinion it's great for LLM students to study with JD students) Actual diving into legal system, customs and relations.

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